[1.7.10] Regrowth - A WIP HQM pack - Now Listed!

Ramjak

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I created a account just so I could ask a couple questions here. However first I would like to say that I have browsed and just plain read page after page of comments/questions/concerns and some whining and bitching. So for I have had a great time playing this pack (and due to the pack creator/author w/e I have learned so far many things about mods I wouldn't have either taken the time to understand had It not been due to this pack nor would I have gone through these mods in the depths that I have. That isn't to say that I still don't have much more to learn). I went to the Dream world and was sad that I had to start over tech wise. I just have to say it was a pain getting mushrooms, netherwart, mycelium, and ender pearls. I ended up using a moistener for the mycelium, had a "stroke of genius" after long despair over finding ender pearls impossible when I found some sitting in my chest from my pearl farm (derp), the netherwart I received from the tossing a Blaze Rod into a Mana Pool with a Alchemy Catalyst(I could have also got them from mutandis too). I went caving for mushrooms and I was not lucky and I forgot about using mutandis to get them, however I did get them but I forget how(and not through creative either). I searched the forums here and found out you can take stuff between worlds here with a belt that someone mentioned. It took me some trial and error to find the belt and then some more trial and error to figure out how to get it to work. Well that's enough of my rambling I will ask my questions and put out some info that I have now and will post it as I come across it.

How do you fish up Perch and Whitemargin Stargazers? I have used the brown bucket hat and dug down to bedrock and filled in a 3x3 with water and I have had no luck
If you want a really Hardworking Dragonfish cross breed it with either a Damselfish or a Neon Tetra. [Dragon Eggs :) ] Well I am hoping, still testing that in creative since I can't get Dragonfish or any of the fish that need fish from cross breeding from a Whitemargin Stargazer
Also breeding a fish with the same species over and over will get you a fish with a 100 on water temperature tolerance. That (sadly) however does not get cross bred into the "cross breed" or other species of fish. :(
If you only want to have to build one fish tank make it a 11 by 11 and 7 tall. 11 by 11 for the walls and inside is 10 by 10, 7 tall with 6 blocks tall water inside. I have also automated my fish feeder for breeding and for cross breeding. Once I figure out how I will post a picture of my set up

I will be cross breeding other fish and will post my results. I am looking to cross breed a Hardworking Boneless fish next to try and get those Wither Skulls.
 
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So i had just added a emerald upgrade to a 2x2 drawer that was hooked up to 1 of my 2 drawer controllers when the first reboot happened. When i tried loggin back in, i was able to log back in, but this time i was standing next to the other drawer controller (about 15 blocks away), then the computer rebooted again after i tried turning away from it.

From that point on i was unable to load the save at all, and i would get this crash log generated by the ftb launcher.
If you can get back in, hop into creative and destroy that drawer. I had that happen and destroying the offending drawer fixed it for me.
 

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Whitemargin Stargazers are currently broken (the guy who maintains Mariculture broke his own recipe), but normally come from breeding Blaasops with Spiderfish and/or Nightfish. Perch is supposed to be bred by crossing a Damselfish and a Goldfish according to this chart, but that recipe looks like it may be broken as well.
 

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Whitemargin Stargazers are currently broken (the guy who maintains Mariculture broke his own recipe), but normally come from breeding Blaasops with Spiderfish and/or Nightfish. Perch is supposed to be bred by crossing a Damselfish and a Goldfish according to this chart, but that recipe looks like it may be broken as well.
Yeah I found that chart and I am sure it works for Mariculture in other packs/by itself. The author of Mariculture is Josie. Well now Ill go fool around with other stuff since ill have to wait on that to get fixed b/c I don't want to cheat stuff in. I am pretty sure TPL changed what gets bred with what to get a new breed of fish, as far as I have seen. I was thinking fishing for perch at the bottom of a ocean near sandy bottoms would be a way to get them since that's where they are irl (in real life) and I was thinking the perch would be in a y 100+ area since that's how spruce is for trees. Thanks for that info. I did find on here I believe below y 32 and y 16 for Silver-Stripe Blaasop and Spiderfish. I don't remember which was which so I just went to y 16. It might have been y 32.
 

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Yeah I found that chart and I am sure it works for Mariculture in other packs/by itself. The author of Mariculture is Josie. Well now Ill go fool around with other stuff since ill have to wait on that to get fixed b/c I don't want to cheat stuff in. I am pretty sure TPL changed what gets bred with what to get a new breed of fish, as far as I have seen. I was thinking fishing for perch at the bottom of a ocean near sandy bottoms would be a way to get them since that's where they are irl (in real life) and I was thinking the perch would be in a y 100+ area since that's how spruce is for trees. Thanks for that info. I did find on here I believe below y 32 and y 16 for Silver-Stripe Blaasop and Spiderfish. I don't remember which was which so I just went to y 16. It might have been y 32.
I haven't changed fish breeding combinations at all. The only thing changed to do with fish is making it so you can get any fish from any biome.
 

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Yeah I found that chart and I am sure it works for Mariculture in other packs/by itself. The author of Mariculture is Josie. Well now Ill go fool around with other stuff since ill have to wait on that to get fixed b/c I don't want to cheat stuff in. I am pretty sure TPL changed what gets bred with what to get a new breed of fish, as far as I have seen. I was thinking fishing for perch at the bottom of a ocean near sandy bottoms would be a way to get them since that's where they are irl (in real life) and I was thinking the perch would be in a y 100+ area since that's how spruce is for trees. Thanks for that info. I did find on here I believe below y 32 and y 16 for Silver-Stripe Blaasop and Spiderfish. I don't remember which was which so I just went to y 16. It might have been y 32.

y=32 should do you for the Blaasop and the Spiderfish. I have an underwater dome with a pool near one edge that I used to fish up my deep-dwellers, and I know the bottom of that pool is no farther down than y=30. I really haven't seen anything in Mariculture that indicates that Perch can be fished up live. I just looked into the 'Fishing and Breeding' book that Josie has in the mod itself. The only fish that can be brought up live are Minnow, Cod, Stingray, Squid, Damselfish, Neon Tetra, Spiderfish, Blaasop, Netherfish, and Nightfish.
 
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If you can get back in, hop into creative and destroy that drawer. I had that happen and destroying the offending drawer fixed it for me.
Sadly the world will not load at all anymore. It loaded once after the first hard boot, and after the second hard boot is when i was finally able to get a crash report because Minecraft would crash instead of rebooting the computer while trying to load the save.

Honestly losing worlds does not bother me all that much. Every time thru i learn new ways of doing things, or better setup's early game to make the mid/end game go easier. I was just really enjoying that world, that said tho, my new world has a hungry node about 100 meters from my spawn. It has been rather fun watching it "grow" lol. I did notice something tho, seems if you put water down around it, it slows/stops the ability of it to eat the terrain around it.
 

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my new world has a hungry node about 100 meters from my spawn. It has been rather fun watching it "grow" lol. I did notice something tho, seems if you put water down around it, it slows/stops the ability of it to eat the terrain around it.
*considers flooding the basin under my own hungry node...*
 

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Hi guys, loving the pack so far! However, I've recently been trying to add the Sphax resource pack to no avail. It crashes after trying to load, both when combining the vanilla pack with the regrowth pack and when loading them separately. It does not crash if I add just one of them, weirdly enough.
I'm running OSX and have allocated 4gigs of ram to ftb, Java is version 7. Anyone got a clue how I can get it working?
 

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Can you get a crash log? Some of the folks here are good at making heads and tails of those. Also, not quite clear on what you mean by this:

It crashes after trying to load, both when combining the vanilla pack with the regrowth pack and when loading them separately. It does not crash if I add just one of them, weirdly enough.
 

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I haven't changed fish breeding combinations at all. The only thing changed to do with fish is making it so you can get any fish from any biome.
Well I apologize. I rechecked the 2 breeding charts that I have found(on a Mariculture forum, I think a ftb one) and the one that OniyaMCD linked and they are the same, but the fish combinations needed to breed in respect to the chart don't match. I am thinking that Josie's chart is out of date, and/or what OniyaMCD said about Josie having some troubles with his fish :( I hope its just that chart needing a update(besides the broken Whitemargin Stargazers and Perch)

I breed Dragonfish with Neon Tetras for the Hardworking/15 water needed, then with Cod for Salt Tolerance 2, I plan on breeding with Boneless fish so I have a Hardworking, Salt Tolerant 2, 15 water, 0 food usage needing Dragonfish
 

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I am thinking that Josie's chart is out of date, and/or what OniyaMCD said about Josie having some troubles with his fish :( I hope its just that chart needing a update(besides the broken Whitemargin Stargazers and Perch)
To be honest, finding stuff about Mariculture that isn't in the mod-provided books is hit or miss. This is the first pack that I've ever really explored that mod in, and I find it quite frustrating at times. I found the chart confusing (especially as it leaves out the male/female specifications) and made a spreadsheet from the NEI data instead. With the other differences that you've pointed out, I'm suspecting that the update that 'broke' the Stargazer may have been a revamping/rebalancing of the breeding tree.
 
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Can you get a crash log? Some of the folks here are good at making heads and tails of those. Also, not quite clear on what you mean by this:
Sure! It's just that I have never provided a crash log before, so how do I best go about doing that? I know where to find them on my comp, just not how to show them here. And what I meant was that i tried both unpacking the resource packs (vanilla and regrowth) to combine them into a single zip file, and just adding them separately as two layers of resource packs.
 

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Sure! It's just that I have never provided a crash log before, so how do I best go about doing that? I know where to find them on my comp, just not how to show them here. And what I meant was that i tried both unpacking the resource packs (vanilla and regrowth) to combine them into a single zip file, and just adding them separately as two layers of resource packs.
A lot of people will upload them to pastebin.com and post the link here, and I think that's preferred, but I have also seen them put into spoilers.
 

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To be honest, finding stuff about Mariculture that isn't in the mod-provided books is hit or miss. This is the first pack that I've ever really explored that mod in, and I find it quite frustrating at times. I found the chart confusing (especially as it leaves out the male/female specifications) and made a spreadsheet from the NEI data instead. With the other differences that you've pointed out, I'm suspecting that the update that 'broke' the Stargazer may have been a revamping/rebalancing of the breeding tree.
I don't think it matters if it is a "specific" male or female, just one male and one female and then split between the 2 species needed to get the new crossbreed.

On a side Note I have breed Dragonfish(Purebred, not a Dragonfish-[insert random fish]) with:
Lifespan 72,000 (for a longer life to have more chances within the lifetime of making that dragon egg)
Fertility 10 (With this low fertility the egg will only produce 1 male and 1 female...that way I can automate the fish feeder with out it clogging up, and then I don't have to pay attention to the fish only check my chest to see what has been made [Ender Pearls, Raw Dragonfish, Ender Droplets, and DRAGON EGGS!!!] )
Productivity 2 (The highest, and hopefully gives me more chances at that .1% chance of a Dragon Egg... along with the other stuff lol)
Food Usage 0 (No Food Usage :) Love this, think I will cross breed that into every fish that I want "on farm")
Water Needed 15 (Beginner Sized Tank...Which will allow me to have them breeding compactly)
Salt Tolerance 2 (The highest tolerance, thus not having "salt water" limiting where I can breed and not Not having a tolerance taking up a Hyperkinetic Upgrade spot...Will breed that into as many fish as I again want "on farm")
Temperature Tolerance 100 (Having this means temperature wont limit me where ever I want to build a tank and breed/farm fishes and what they produce)(Wonder if I can breed them in the Nether? Going to find out and will post back here in a edit)
Areas (Up, Down, North, East, South, West) I honestly have no idea what they do, so I breed my Dragonfish Neutral 0 to all directions

Yeah I am going to crossbreed with a Boneless fish next and try to get the same stats, But I will probably save cutting the fertility down to 10 for last. Not having a fertile fish makes it hard to mass breed to get not only the preferred stats on that active but also on the inactive. Having the same stats in both columns or at the very least only minimal differences in both columns makes it a lot easier and less of a hassle/headache getting the stats you want while breeding out those that you don't. Also just rebreeding the best male and female with the stats you want while they aren't perfect with multiple rebreeds can breed out stats you don't want. It just takes time.
 

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Areas (Up, Down, North, East, South, West) I honestly have no idea what they do, so I breed my Dragonfish Neutral 0 to all directions
I think that this refers to the fish's area of effect. For example, the Withering effect from the Blaasop or the Confusion effect from the Nightfish. I pretty much avoided that during my short stint of fish-breeding by running a path of Lily Pads out to where I had my Blaasop fish feeder set up. (Who needs a tank for Saline fish when you've got a bloody ocean?) It was quite amusing to see a Zombie fall victim to it one night as it tried to swim over to me.
 

Ramjak

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I have a question about the Regeneration droplet and the liquid it contains and what it can be used for.
I tried using a squeezer to squeeze the liquid out and that didn't work for any of the droplets, neither did trying to melt them in the Crucible furnace (however placing them in the far right slot in the center just juices the liquid out into the Crucible Furnaces internal tank and then can be pumped out into a external tank/machine for bottling/bucketing[maybe]) All of the droplets fluids can be extracted this way and piped out and tanked.

Regeneration Droplet. Besides the Mariculture stuff it can be used for it looks like it can be put into the crucible furnace from mariculture and out into life essence. Which is used for Blood Magic but I haven't ever used it nor have I gotten into it as of yet.

Another question Ill throw out there which I don't think it can be done but maybe someone has discovered a way to do it. Can the fact that certain fish can only be bred at night, can that be bred out? As far as I have seen it isn't a possibility because that requirement for breeding doesn't show up on the Fish Scanner(Fishalyzer)
 
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