FTB News - March 20th, 2015

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BrickVoid

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Kaelten said:
Ack first we've heard of that. We'll investigate and get a fix in for you.



Nope just giving you a stop gap until we have a better fix in. :)

BUT... I just found the setting that I swore was there anyway! It's kinda hidden (which I'm going to give more feedback on) but you can go to Settings -> General -> Advanced and uncheck it.

zQ-1PewV1ILu90OzADI-g7ZS1Zvvmu6MdbUSRSxRhHc




I actually appreciate the feedback. You're being constructive if strongly spoken at times, but that's ok. :)

I like the feature idea, and will submit it. No ETA though. :)



Unfortunately I don't even know if that's possible with the client... :/
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Regarding the link you posted on dropbox, I can't see it here, I've also made dropbox aware of this problem, and alerted them to the fact that I'm being asked to sign into to the dropbox website to view your image, which I believe I shouldn't have to do.

Maybe, if they care, you'll get a PM from them on these forums explaining what's wrong with your link, or why you can't do that, but there are other hosting sites in the meantime, if you need to share images.

I, personally, care, because it annoys me to no end when someone posts a broken link, for whatever reason. I do, however, want to fix it where possible, and will do what I can to make that happen.

Cheers ...

BrickVoid
 
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Bennyboo19

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Wish I would've seen Kaelten's comment earlier. Just took three hours to install Wine. And then it didn't work. :p
 
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Big Bad said:
The moment you’ve been waiting for, folks! Curse has just released the open beta of the new Curse Client. Rejoice!
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I don't want to sound like an ungrateful cu*t, but this is probably not the moment we were all waiting for... For me its FTB Lite 3, and for others probably some other modpack.
 
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Kaelten

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Miranda said:
Are you talking abou this post?
Because I can't see the image here.

edit: but I can read ._. I successfully disabled it.
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Ack, it's working here obviously... I'll fix that shortly.

Edit: replaced with an imgur link.
 
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Gamefury64

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So, this "project trident" is a war modpack, or tournament maybe?

I see flans mod
Mc-heli
MFR
Mine an blade
And some others

And theese are being used in War-like situations, so It is safe to assume it is a war pack.
 
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ZethHQ

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Why is the launcher set to 256MB of RAM? And if I change it, it will say something about removed support for PermGen...and won't even launch..?!

Edit: Never mind...*derp* I was setting the initial memory to be higher than the maximum allocated... -_-

Also HUGE FPS BOOST from 100-120 to 180-250 fps when using the curse launcher. :D
 
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d3w10n

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Gideonseymour said:
FTB Lite has been out a long while.
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With my statement I meant non-alpha (or beta) version, but stable version, with server pack that I can set up and play with my friends, and much needed addons updates because current state is quite buggy for any form of mildly complex setup.
 
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d3w10n said:
With my statement I meant non-alpha (or beta) version, but stable version, with server pack that I can set up and play with my friends, and much needed addons updates because current state is quite buggy for any form of mildly complex setup.
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Most recent update? It should be running fine. Give me any logs/crashes that are produced with the odd behaviour.
 
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Leonexis

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Big Bad said:
The beta Curse Client is currently available for Windows. A Mac-compatible version will be available later this year. A Linux solution is being investigated.

For those wondering, the FTB Launcher will continue to be updated and maintained for the foreseeable future. Once feature parity between the Curse Client and the FTB Launcher has been met, we will then begin the process of retiring our launcher. At the moment, we do not have an exact timeframe on when this will occur.​
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I hope Linux support is part of that "feature parity"... There's nothing like double-clicking a jar to have it run on any of the big three.
 
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PreyTheWeak

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I tried this client to make a 1.8 pack and when I pressed the play button on the Mojang client that launch this came up. Only Forge is installed at this point. will not launch the game.


Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/logging/log4j/Level
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:94)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.logging.log4j.Level
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:372)
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:361)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:360)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:308)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
... 2 more
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM warning: ignoring option PermSize=256m; support was removed in 8.0
 
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Krymez

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b0bst3r said:
All Curse Client seems to do is build the folder structure (in a dumb place by default, luckily you can change it) and create a profile for the vanilla MC launcher to launch the game.

Has more bad points than good right now, but I guess we'll either get used to it or just use it to download packs and use MMC to run them (which is pretty straight forward to do).
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Originally i like the idea of this. Easy modding...(not that it was hard)
But as i test it more and more.... im starting to not like it.

1. Like you said it make folders in weird locations.
2. I want to play FTB not use curse voice that by default loads on start up. ( i have teamspeak and Steam for this)
3. there are more streamlined launchers, MultiMC being the obvious choice.

Overall this just seems like overkill for modded minecraft. I hope ftb wont get rid of there original launcher or one similar to it. If they do i hope we will get a dropbox location to the pack versions so we can add them to MultiMC

I would much rather have a Great modded launcher then an app that has friend lists, voice, and other things i will never use with a MC feature.
 
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Shaithlis

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Tested it earlier. Good concept, but not for me, I will stick with MultiMC, which I am used to. As stated above, Im no way interested in the voice part, that should have been optional.
 
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Daniel_USA

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I don't know if anyone has posted or not but are the latest builds released on Curse Voice? I ask because I just spent about an hour downloading FTB Infinity only to discover it is 1.2.1 and I don't know where to click to find other versions of the mod pack.
 
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DivinerGod

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Hey Guys!
I need someone to help me out.
I was trying to make a modpack.
Not really that good though, I tried to launch it and this is what the console spat out at me.
Can someone tell me what it means?



[20:01:03] [main/INFO] [LaunchWrapper]: Loading tweak class name cpw.mods.fml.common.launcher.FMLTweaker
[20:01:03] [main/INFO] [LaunchWrapper]: Using primary tweak class name cpw.mods.fml.common.launcher.FMLTweaker
[20:01:03] [main/INFO] [LaunchWrapper]: Calling tweak class cpw.mods.fml.common.launcher.FMLTweaker
[20:01:04] [main/INFO] [FML]: Forge Mod Loader version 7.10.85.1222 for Minecraft 1.7.10 loading
[20:01:04] [main/INFO] [FML]: Java is Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM, version 1.8.0_25, running on Windows 8.1:amd64:6.3, installed at D:\runtime\jre-x64\1.8.0_25
[20:01:04] [main/INFO] [FML]: [AppEng] Core Init
[20:01:04] [main/WARN] [FML]: The coremod codechicken.core.launch.DepLoader does not have a MCVersion annotation, it may cause issues with this version of Minecraft
[20:01:04] [main/WARN] [FML]: The coremod mekanism.common.asm.LoadingHook does not have a MCVersion annotation, it may cause issues with this version of Minecraft
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraftforge/fml/relauncher/IFMLLoadingPlugin
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:760)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:142)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:455)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:73)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:367)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:361)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:360)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:117)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:344)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.loadCoreMod(CoreModManager.java:417)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.discoverCoreMods(CoreModManager.java:346)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.handleLaunch(CoreModManager.java:214)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.setupHome(FMLLaunchHandler.java:90)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.setupClient(FMLLaunchHandler.java:67)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.configureForClientLaunch(FMLLaunchHandler.java:34)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.common.launcher.FMLTweaker.injectIntoClassLoader(FMLTweaker.java:126)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:115)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraftforge.fml.relauncher.IFMLLoadingPlugin
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: ... 23 more
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:182)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: ... 25 more
[20:01:05] [main/ERROR] [FML]: An error occurred trying to configure the minecraft home at D:\2341506\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft for Forge Mod Loader
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraftforge/fml/relauncher/IFMLLoadingPlugin
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:760) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:142) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:455) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:73) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:367) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:361) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:360) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:117) ~[launchwrapper-1.11.jar:?]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:344) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.loadCoreMod(CoreModManager.java:417) ~[forge-1.7.10-10.13.1.1222.jar:?]
at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.discoverCoreMods(CoreModManager.java:346) ~[forge-1.7.10-10.13.1.1222.jar:?]
at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.handleLaunch(CoreModManager.java:214) ~[forge-1.7.10-10.13.1.1222.jar:?]
at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.setupHome(FMLLaunchHandler.java:90) [forge-1.7.10-10.13.1.1222.jar:?]
at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.setupClient(FMLLaunchHandler.java:67) [forge-1.7.10-10.13.1.1222.jar:?]
at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.configureForClientLaunch(FMLLaunchHandler.java:34) [forge-1.7.10-10.13.1.1222.jar:?]
at cpw.mods.fml.common.launcher.FMLTweaker.injectIntoClassLoader(FMLTweaker.java:126) [forge-1.7.10-10.13.1.1222.jar:?]
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:115) [launchwrapper-1.11.jar:?]
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28) [launchwrapper-1.11.jar:?]
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraftforge.fml.relauncher.IFMLLoadingPlugin
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191) ~[launchwrapper-1.11.jar:?]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
... 23 more
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:182) ~[launchwrapper-1.11.jar:?]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357) ~[?:1.8.0_25]
... 23 more
Exception in thread "main" [20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraftforge/fml/relauncher/IFMLLoadingPlugin
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:760)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:142)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:455)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:73)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:367)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:361)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:360)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:117)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:344)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.loadCoreMod(CoreModManager.java:417)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.discoverCoreMods(CoreModManager.java:346)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.CoreModManager.handleLaunch(CoreModManager.java:214)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.setupHome(FMLLaunchHandler.java:90)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.setupClient(FMLLaunchHandler.java:67)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLLaunchHandler.configureForClientLaunch(FMLLaunchHandler.java:34)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at cpw.mods.fml.common.launcher.FMLTweaker.injectIntoClassLoader(FMLTweaker.java:126)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:115)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraftforge.fml.relauncher.IFMLLoadingPlugin
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: ... 23 more
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:182)
[20:01:05] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: ... 25 more
 
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