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I remember a long time ago an discussion about this.
As it turned out back then, 1 process needs to stay which detects when the game closes and does stuff in case of errors. I forgot the details but if that is still the case I guess he was referring to that.
That's default behaviour: makes support persons' life easier.
 

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If you didn't know that Curse is already exploring solutions for a Linux client then you can turn in your "Forum Addict" badge on the way out... :D
Talk to me when I can execute it, until then it is still a shit move the Linux launcher being called legacy, when it is the only option, and people all the time saying that I should switch to Curse when it is not available, and AFAIK there is no compromise on it ever being. We are complaining about Linux support since the beginning and the closest we got was:

"Finally, work has started to test the viability of a Linux based client. The Curse dev team has a few Linux enthusiasts among them, so they're really excited about bringing the app to Linux."

Which means really nothing as Microsoft also loves Linux, and it results in almost nothing useful.
 
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im confused. how do i get the old one back? i got a new pc not knowing about this and now i dont know how to get it back.
 

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Using it without an account or with an anonymised account, not likely to ever happen I think. If you aren't used to needing an account to use free web services yet then it's something you'll have to get used to cos it's pretty normal. Likewise, arguing which way a config option defaults is a fairly pointless exercise unless you can clearly show that the majority of FTB players don't use the communications side of the app.

I don't see Google or Yahoo (or many of the other search engines out there) requiring someone to SIGN UP before they can search the web. Weather.com doesn't require an account to view your local forecast & weather information. The list can go on... I'm sure the same can be said here. Sure, I can browse the curseforge website without needing an account, but there's no easy way to install from curseforge directly since you guys provide zips that are rather useless to anything but your app. I wouldn't mind needing to download full zips from curseforge and not being able to auto-update them if it meant I could actually install them and run them without needing the unnecessary bloat of the client (Voice? Social Features? NOT NEEDED FOR A GAME LAUNCHER.) Giving us the ability to use the app as "Anonymous FTB Player" or something similar should disable the voice & social functionality of the app, but allow us to still utilize it to install and launch modpacks the way you guys want them, along with Mojang's launcher. Is that too hard to comprehend? I think it is. Especially when corporate minds are so close-minded and could care-less about what their users want. I'm checking back after a month from my initial posts in this thread, and it turns out there's just no giving in on Curse's side to settle with their vocal minority users. I wouldn't mind using this app if it wasn't locked away behind "Sign up for a Curse Account".
 

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I wouldn't mind using this app if it wasn't locked away behind "Sign up for a Curse Account".

Have to agree with this. I've been a fan of the FTB launcher since I ran across Infinity Evolved, and I'll keep on using it until it's totally outdated. As far as signing up for free online content, I don't think my son ever signed up with anything except his Minecraft ID to use the Void launcher, or to play Pixelmon, to use two related examples. If it comes to that, I'll just go back to installing mod packs individually and working through the compatibility issues myself.
 

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I find it really hard to believe that people take more issue with signing up for a free account on a site (which they already have anyway), a site whose services they will happily use than they do with giving a 3rd party site their login credentials to a game account that they have paid money for. The logic is flawed, which is why you aren't likely to see anyone take the argument seriously.
 

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I find it really hard to believe that people take more issue with signing up for a free account on a site (which they already have anyway), a site whose services they will happily use than they do with giving a 3rd party site their login credentials to a game account that they have paid money for. The logic is flawed, which is why you aren't likely to see anyone take the argument seriously.

Not sure I follow. FTB won't launch mod packs without a Minecraft user ID, either. Are you saying that once I sign up for a Curse account, that's all it takes to play Minecraft?
 

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Not sure I follow. FTB won't launch mod packs without a Minecraft user ID, either. Are you saying that once I sign up for a Curse account, that's all it takes to play Minecraft?
That and a valid Minecraft account, but you put those details into the Mojang launcher, not anything connected with Curse. One of the big problems going forward with the FTB launcher is that players authenticate directly through the launcher, which in turn means you enter your Minecraft account details into our launcher. This is one of the reasons why we are recommending the Curse app over the old launcher at this point.
 
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I find it really hard to believe that people take more issue with signing up for a free account on a site (which they already have anyway).
Why would I want anything to do with Curse when all the dealings I've had with them always resulted in unforgiving circumstances for myself? I don't want anything to do with Curse, especially since I have been banned from their sites in the past because I had a disagreement with a moderator and wished to speak to a higher-up in a polite manner, since I had even inquired about such a thing in private to keep it out of the eyes of the public. But it seems that Curse doesn't like people stating their minds without getting backlash from their employees and/or volunteers.
 

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For what it's worth to the discussion, there's rumors floating around the WoW community that Curse is merging their add on manager into Curse Voice just like how it is for MC. The response has been to petition add on devs to move to Nexus. This dislike isn't a thing limited to FTB.
 

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Didn't know it was that far along. Should be interesting to see how people react to it in that community.

As a current wow player, I can tell you its very very divided atm, the main reason is that most people just dont know or even understand what curse is doing, the ones that do (mostly from open chat info) have deleted the app (too late I know as you have all ready given curse full access to use your data, to do as they see fit) & install addons manually, this has been debated often in open chat & when you advise players to go view the tos that they are agreeing too most come back shocked & angry, so its not just the MC/FTB players, there are many many curse haters out there a lot of us with good reason, why should we be forced into using something we do not want or need, mho in the FTB case is: most ftb staff will sooner or later be employees of curse, as some of the ex FTB now are, be it curse head hunting or some form of back room dealing who knows or cares for that matter, its was a great ride & like all good things it has to come to an end, in this case ftb selling out, again mho.

In a nut shell if you love Curse App use it & enjoy it, but dont say or infer I/we are stupid for not agreeing with you view.

If you dont like curse app dont use it..

I guess this may well be my last post here.

Edit, The wow guild I am in had a list of addons the you should install to aid all guild members to communicate & have the same data available to them, Curse App was on the list to make its easyer for beginners, I spoke the guild leader & advised him to view the Tos, the Curse app line was removed from guild info.
 
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As a current wow player, I can tell you its very very divided atm, the main reason is that most people just dont know or even understand what curse is doing, the ones that do (mostly from open chat info) have deleted the app (too late I know as you have all ready given curse full access to use your data, to do as they see fit) & install addons manually, this has been debated often in open chat & when you advise players to go view the tos that they are agreeing too most come back shocked & angry, so its not just the MC/FTB players, there are many many curse haters out there a lot of us with good reason, why should we be forced into using something we do not want or need, mho in the FTB case is: most ftb staff will sooner or later be employees of curse, as some of the ex FTB now are, be it curse head hunting or some form of back room dealing who knows or cares for that matter, its was a great ride & like all good things it has to come to an end, in this case ftb selling out, again mho.

In a nut shell if you love Curse App use it & enjoy it, but dont say or infer I/we are stupid for not agreeing with you view.

If you dont like curse app dont use it..

I guess this may well be my last post here.

Edit, The wow guild I am in had a list of addons the you should install to aid all guild members to communicate & have the same data available to them, Curse App was on the list to make its easyer for beginners, I spoke the guild leader & advised him to view the Tos, the Curse app line was removed from guild info.

I haven't heard anything in game yet about it, the bits I saw was some Reddit and forum talk. I'm not too surprised by the backlash though. I just hope we can get Nexus to be a strong secondary hub, competition is always good and keeps companies from doing things like this. Should be interesting to see if some of this backlash transfers over to MC in a similar fashion.

Thanks for the info, that's far more than I originally knew on the matter.
 
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I think we've already seen evidence of the backlash @Padfoote. Look at the number of negative posts this thread has (mine included). Yes, I have downloaded curse to play ftb. I still feel railroaded into the use of it.

Having used the three major launchers at some point through out my minecraft career, by FAR the ftb launcher was the best. Curse is much more convoluted to use. For as bad as everyone on the team (that I've seen on this thread) has said it was... It was in actuality far more user friendly. And it did exactly what it was for.

Curse has to much other baggage on their launcher. They are trying to have their hands in to many realms. If they focused on one realm (re: battle.net, minecraft, and now wow) I doubt the backlash would be such as it is. Not to mention the unneeded features.

Maybe I'm old fashioned. But I want my gaming experience to be centered on the game. As it stands? I spend more time cursing the curse launcher and what it stands for than I do actually playing the game. Yes, this partnership started 2yrs ago, but now when it comes to being a partnership... Ftb and its users are losing. I worry what other unforeseen consequences there are. Up to and including the loss of the FTB brand.
 
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If they focused on one realm (re: battle.net, minecraft, and now wow)

I'm sure nobody remembers the old Curse v. Wowmatrix debacle that happened many, many years ago. Who's to say this whole thing won't rear its ugly head again when Curse delivers it's "API" that they have "promised" us via CurseForge? As soon as anything that's released gains more popularity than their own client. I'm sure they'd be willing to do anything they can (including shutting down the API) just to ensure their own client remains the only thing to use the service.
 
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I think we've already seen evidence of the backlash @Padfoote. Look at the number of negative posts this thread has (mine included). Yes, I have downloaded curse to play ftb. I still feel railroaded into the use of it.

Having used the three major launchers at some point through out my minecraft career, by FAR the ftb launcher was the best. Curse is much more convoluted to use. For as bad as everyone on the team (that I've seen on this thread) has said it was... It was in actuality far more user friendly. And it did exactly what it was for.

Curse has to much other baggage on their launcher. They are trying to have their hands in to many realms. If they focused on one realm (re: battle.net, minecraft, and now wow) I doubt the backlash would be such as it is. Not to mention the unneeded features.

[Edit] Perhaps SepirothWS mentioned what I recall reading about back in the 2000's before MC even existed...

Maybe I'm old fashioned. But I want my gaming experience to be centered on the game. As it stands? I spend more time cursing the curse launcher and what it stands for than I do actually playing the game. Yes, this partnership started 2yrs ago, but now when it comes to being a partnership... Ftb and its users are losing. I worry what other unforeseen consequences there are. Up to and including the loss of the FTB brand.

I thought Curse supported WoW long before they even looked toward MC. Am I incorrect? (I don't and never have played WoW, DDO player here). I'm just curious to know the timeline.

[Edit] Perhaps SephirothWS mentions what I recall reading about back in the 2000's before MC even existed.
 
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