Forge: My list of grievances

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Henry Link

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No one can ever truely be satisfied. It is a human condition to complain even when things are going super. Why? Because we sometimes fail to see the good we have.

Yepper, I hear a lot of negative non productive come out of most people I meet and talk with in life. It is very hard to find people that are just happy. To this day I believe that you must make the decision to be happy and not blame everything and everyone for the problems you have.

So... BE HAPPY :)
 
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BananaSplit2

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I've been close for a limited time to the Forge Community for some weeks around 9 monthes ago and it's clear it isn't the best community ever. I have nothing to say about modders, but it's about the others.

People like Slowpoke or Direwolf are very nice persons, I know that, they took the time to have little discussions with me, but most others ? they didn't give a crap. A lot never did. Part of the community is flawed, but so is any community in the end...
 
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I had quite a long post laid out to add to this thread but as I read further, I realized most of my points aside from two were already covered by other people. Go Forge Community!

And that's point number 1. You guys are the Forge Community. The livestreamers are the Forge Community. The mod dev's are the Forge Community. All of us, wrapped up together, are the Forge Community. At least, that's the only way I've heard the term used.

Point number two is this: Yes, those of us on ForgeCraft who livestream or make YouTube videos often point out that the mods here are not publicly available... that's because people are asking us where to get this particular mod pack. It doesn't exist. Closed beta testing. That does beg the question, why even display the server and it's unavailable goodies in the first place? Because, quite simply, you asked for it. No, you demanded it. Everyone has to see "what's coming next"! I feel like a rock in a Catch 22.

Just keep on what you guys are doing. 80% of the time I don't watch the videos for a couple weeks, then blast through them all in a day or two, but it's well worth it to see what's coming, or even just to see what's coming.

I personally don't care what anyone else says--Forgecraft servers and the streamers/youtubers who show it to us rock. Keep up the good work
 

RetroGamer1224

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Honestly any community can become toxic. Look at the official WoW forums. There is so much angst there it isn't funny. Go on youtube and look at League of Legends comments it will be the same deal. As been said it is only you that can make a positive impact on yourself. No one else can.
 

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Its like the matrix... The robots made a matrix were everything was perfect.. Paradise for the humans... But were too stupid and complained to much so they gave us a Crap world.. Were you work 12 hour days and make crap and barely survive.. And go on the internet and listen to people complain about video games... Wait a second.........
 
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RavenTwospirit

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Seek humbling experiences. First humbling experience: learn Haskell. After about a year you may actually find it useful. Then you have 2 problems.

OMG, someone else who knows Haskell . . .

It took me a good 6 months to make the mental twist needed to go from Procedural Code to Functional Programming. Fun language once you understand it, but soooooo different from what I had been used to up to that point.

Of course, it's been a good 15-20 years since I've used it. . . . :oops:
 

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OMG, someone else who knows Haskell . . .

It took me a good 6 months to make the mental twist needed to go from Procedural Code to Functional Programming. Fun language once you understand it, but soooooo different from what I had been used to up to that point.

Of course, it's been a good 15-20 years since I've used it. . . . :oops:
Have you tried gag languages yet? Befungee is fun, intercal is... shrodingers cat.
 

RavenTwospirit

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Have you tried gag languages yet? Befungee is fun, intercal is... shrodingers cat.

Nothing so exciting. I became a professional Java programmer, and have my hands (and brain) full of code-for-work. The days that I could go and pick up a new language just for the heck of it seem to be far behind me now
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(Edit for spelling.)
 

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I have been looking at this thread for a while, and I don't really have much to say.
I can say, however, that I am disgusted by the Original Posters views. You cannot say that about these people. They don't act like they are better than everyone else. They are just regular people, people I know said that. Even some of the modders stated that.
There is no reason for your horribly disrespectful post. All the other points that I would have stated have already been stated by this wonderful community of people who know what they are talking about. I can see that you are new to this scene and don't really understand how all this goes down. This is a horrible first impression you have inflicted on us, and first impressions (especially strong ones) are very hard to reverse.
You have broken our trust.
Unless you can show yourself to understand what really goes on, we cannot respect you.
I am sorry.
 

Bynnar18

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On Topic.

People need to consider the fact that they make the mods. They have no obligation to do anything for you or give you anything. They can just not release their mod anymore and make it Forgecraft only. It's their code; they can do whatever they want with it. If you have a problem with that, learn Java and make your own damn RedPower.

While it's awesome if a mod is open source, they made the program. Their time, their code, their choice.
 

Hoff

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Just to play the opposite side of the field a bit more; why is it everyone expects you to respect modders but do not expect that they show the same respect for the community? This is of course not saying any of the FC people are; just playing devils advocate a bit.

Yes, yes they give their free time to making the mods we may or may not use. Regardless of whether or not you use it though you're expected to respect them. I don't see a reason they shouldn't be expected to respect the people that respect them in kind? Not every member of the community is respectful of course but many are.
 

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Just to play the opposite side of the field a bit more; why is it everyone expects you to respect modders but do not expect that they show the same respect for the community? This is of course not saying any of the FC people are just playing devils advocate a bit.

Yes, yes they give their free time to making the mods we may or may not use. Regardless of whether or not you use it though you're expected to respect them. I don't see a reason they shouldn't be expected to respect the people that respect them in kind? Not every member of the community is respectful of course but many are.

How are they NOT showing the same respect for the community? Show me a valid reason that these people deserve any hate shown towards them, and I'll happily shut my mouth. But until then I'm going to assume the people bitching are just brats.

I think everyone inherently deserves respect until they prove they don't.
 

Hoff

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How are they NOT showing the same respect for the community? Show me a valid reason that these people deserve any hate shown towards them, and I'll happily shut my mouth. But until then I'm going to assume the people bitching are just brats.

I think everyone inherently deserves respect until they prove they don't.
I specifically said they aren't acting that way. The only /famous/ mod dev I know of like that is FC.

I asked why do most not expect them to be?
 

Virgoddess

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I specifically said they aren't acting that way. The only /famous/ mod dev I know of like that is FC.

I asked why do most not expect them to be?

I know it was a general question, and not representative of your opinion.

I guess I don't see what you're seeing. I think people do expect to be respected, at least initially. The problem is respect is totally subjective.
 

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I have been looking at this thread for a while, and I don't really have much to say.
I can say, however, that I am disgusted by the Original Posters views. You cannot say that about these people. They don't act like they are better than everyone else. They are just regular people, people I know said that. Even some of the modders stated that.
There is no reason for your horribly disrespectful post. All the other points that I would have stated have already been stated by this wonderful community of people who know what they are talking about. I can see that you are new to this scene and don't really understand how all this goes down. This is a horrible first impression you have inflicted on us, and first impressions (especially strong ones) are very hard to reverse.
You have broken our trust.
Unless you can show yourself to understand what really goes on, we cannot respect you.
I am sorry.
Who is this "us" you're talking about? Don't dare try to speak for these forums. We each are able to give our own opinions without your interference. It is not needed and it is not wanted, especially from you. You're disgusted by the OPs views? I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of people on these forums would be disgusted by your views! Don't ever assume the right to speak for me.
 
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