[1.7.10] Regrowth - A WIP HQM pack - Now Listed!

Seebo

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What do you think? I mean, if an early essence seed recipe requires a higher-tier essence and others of the same levels don't, that may be intended and should be inquired about. If you're mining an ore and getting something completely different, it's obviously not intended. It's like asking if it's intended that chopping spruce down trees with your axe gives nether stars; that's obviously not an intended feature.
People had been asking for a means to get apatite in previous posts, I thought it possible that this was now a means of it. I thought it odd, but hell, enough is changed from the norm in this mod pack that I wasn't completely sure.
 
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People had been asking for a means to get apatite in previous posts, I thought it possible that this was now a means of it. I thought it odd, but hell, enough is changed from the norm in this mod pack that I wasn't completely sure.
You're telling me that, by your logic, you believed that thephoenix lodge, in response to people's asking for a way to get apatite, put it in that putting autosmelt on a tinker's construct hammer and hitting copper/tin with it as a way to get apatite? And furthermore, that this was not mentioned anywhere, either in the changelogs, the questbook, or by thephoenixlodge himself, and that he's just expecting EVERYONE to just stumble across it on their own? Because that seems to be what you're telling me your logic is. To reiterate: that the modpack creator put in a ridiculously convoluted and nonsensical system of getting something people had been asking for with no documentation anywhere, which implies that he expects people to discover it of their own accord.
 

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You're telling me that, by your logic, you believed that thephoenix lodge, in response to people's asking for a way to get apatite, put it in that putting autosmelt on a tinker's construct hammer and hitting copper/tin with it as a way to get apatite? And furthermore, that this was not mentioned anywhere, either in the changelogs, the questbook, or by thephoenixlodge himself, and that he's just expecting EVERYONE to just stumble across it on their own? Because that seems to be what you're telling me your logic is. To reiterate: that the modpack creator put in a ridiculously convoluted and nonsensical system of getting something people had been asking for with no documentation anywhere, which implies that he expects people to discover it of their own accord.
Hey now, no need to be quite so snarky about it. Admittedly this isn't the first time something odd has been happening with forestry's ores. Previously if you placed and broke a block of copper from forestry it would drop as a block of apatite.
But yea, this is certainly rather odd and unintended behaviour.

The problem is we only have two devs right now, and one of them has a real-life job and only works on robots.

Those things take time, and finding bug reports concealed in claims about a mod sucking is really not nice.
My post was in no way aimed at you but rather at all the people constantly complaining about an issue I was having issues reproducing myself to be able to report effectively. I appreciate all the work you guys do on BC and am quite the fan of the mod, which is why the pack specifically encourages the use of pipes.
 

Seebo

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I believed it was possibly some random bit of code that was being made to eventually provide apatite and it got buggy, and was hoping for some simple confirmation that other folks had seen it and it wasn't supposed to be happening. And that our devs would be made aware of it.

Thank you, thephoenixlodge.

I'm now putting the forestry ore through the mariculture dictionary block and its hammer smelting just fine.
 
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Desman

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Are gravestone crypts supposed to be spawning? How about Thaumcraft obelisks? I started a new world for the pack update and have explored out 1200-1500 blocks in all cardinal directions from my house and have had no luck with either.
Try exploring islands for obelisks, someone mentioned it may be relevant. I posted a 1.7 seed with an obelisk a while ago. Haven't seen a catacomb in this version yet, but they should be still spawning.
 

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Hello, I have been having just a bit trouble with this pack. For you see every time I try to get the uses or recipe for an NEI item I crash and so does my friend. I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this and or do you know how to fix this. I was not sure if its a quest thing where it was trying to prevent me from looking at this for the sake of the adventure and not getting a head of myself in the pack. I also had the theory that maybe left and right clicking to get the uses and recipes is crashing it apposed to pressing the R and U button while holding my mouse over the item in NEI.
 

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Hello, I have been having just a bit trouble with this pack. For you see every time I try to get the uses or recipe for an NEI item I crash and so does my friend. I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this and or do you know how to fix this. I was not sure if its a quest thing where it was trying to prevent me from looking at this for the sake of the adventure and not getting a head of myself in the pack. I also had the theory that maybe left and right clicking to get the uses and recipes is crashing it apposed to pressing the R and U button while holding my mouse over the item in NEI.
That's a known issue in .71, I've heard talk thrown around that it's something or other not being up to date, but I don't believe anything's been definitively pinpointed yet (I may be wrong, someone who knows more about this confirm or correct me?). What I'm doing is waiting a bit until all the .71 bugs get ironed out until I update from .65, which kind of sucks since I don't wanna get into Thaumcraft until I can do the quests for it.
 

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This is still 0.65, but I've just completed the elven mana spreader quest, and while the two mana tablets it gave me do indeed hold and can be emptied of mana, they have no durability bar. I suspect this is because they are originally the creative version, instead of the ones with a bar I was given for a previous quest.
 

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I just looked and my issue is no longer on the issue tracker.

I'll re add it tonight when I get home and reproduce it again. Been a couple of weeks since I've used the pipes so want to make sure my memory is correct.
Here is my repo for the BC fluid pipe issue

BC pipes lose liquid when different fluids mix in them.

Here is my repo.

This is a contrived example to showcase the bug. I have had this happen in more normal operations.

Smeltery drain. Wooden pipe output to casting table with warmed up redstone engine powering pipe. Put hopper under the table to pull out ingots as they are made.

Take ingot cast out of table.

Melt an ingot of 5 different metals that won't mix or pour into a table with no cast in it. I used for this test aluminum brass (made sure it melted last), iron, tin, bronze, and obsidian.

As the metals melt it fills the pipe but can't go anywhere. Once pipe is full place ingot cast in table. Watch ingots get made and wait for an ingot to not finish. In my test it was the second ingot that failed.

Wrench the pipe to reverse flow back into smeltery. Once in smeltery you can see how much of the ingots you have left.

In my test of the 4 metals piped back to smeltery I had the following quantities. 3 nuggets, 80 mB, 3 nuggets, and 1 ingot 4 nuggets 15 mB. So three metals were partially lost and one metal gained some volume.

I have submitted this to the BC github as my previous submission doesn't seem to be there anymore.
 

Seldron

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i see nobody answered me questioooon :/ How does one output power from steam turbine from railcraft to mekanism's energy cube?!
Don't know if somebody answered you yet but the Steam Turbine from Railcraft is only producing EU power for Industrialcraft 2.
Since we don't have this mod in this modpack the Steam Turbine from Railcraft doesn't do anything for you.
The power system it would provide is just not even there.

I would even go so far as for phoenix to disable the reciepe of em to avoid confusion.

To generate power from the steam you produce you have to use the steam engines for example the industrial Steam Engines from Railcraft.
Those should feed normally into the mekanism pipes/energy cubes.
 

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I have submitted this to the BC github as my previous submission doesn't seem to be there anymore.
Thanks for doing that. My current work around has just been to store my ores en masse close to the smeltery and only process for ingots one lot at a time. It would be nice to have a few going at once.
 

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yep they are spawning for me to :p found a outta land "gas leak: sand block
Natural gas doesn't actually check for water so it's perfectly normal. It just checks that the biome that the natural gas wants to start generating in is 'salt water'. As for the gas leak block. It gets placed at the same x/z coordinate of the LAST natural gas block to be placed (just at the top of the world). (This means it would spawn on slime islands :p, in normal tinkers). So if natural gas started generating at a coastline or on an ocean island, then it's easy for it to appear on land, as the gas is quite likely to have generated landward.
 
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Lunetouche

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Don't know if somebody answered you yet but the Steam Turbine from Railcraft is only producing EU power for Industrialcraft 2.
Since we don't have this mod in this modpack the Steam Turbine from Railcraft doesn't do anything for you.
The power system it would provide is just not even there.

I would even go so far as for phoenix to disable the reciepe of em to avoid confusion.

To generate power from the steam you produce you have to use the steam engines for example the industrial Steam Engines from Railcraft.
Those should feed normally into the mekanism pipes/energy cubes.
While there isnt IC2 there IS however the electric locomotive. Unfortunately without IC2 its use is more limited since there arent battery carts so you need to plan your tracks much more carefully to ensure you dont run out of juice, since there is a loss over distance for both the cables and the tracks carrying power.
 

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Having used BC pipes for this a couple of days ago I really wish I had other pipes.

I was emptying a smelter that had a ton of different ores in it and was not happy to find that it allowed multiple liquids in the same pipe. Reversed the pipe to put the stuff back in the smelter and discovered that some of my ores got destroyed somehow. Not much was lost but not a good experience.

I guess if you only ever have one liquid at a time in your smelter it works ok but I miss my redstone clock from open blocks.
Its funny how modded players get so used to the mods that they forget(or not even know) the good old vanilla ways! I present you a vanilla redstone clock that I used in my smeltery(mine as a few adaptations to be able to turn on and off but I leave that as an exercise and due the fact of not being able to take a screenshoot of mine at the moment)

Also, the redstone clock is from Extra utilities, not OpenBlocks
 

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While I do like the idea in general that you are suggesting, that being user submitted quests, the actual quest you submitted I strongly don't. One of the things that I have really enjoyed about this pack is that, at least so far anyway, there haven't been any quests requiring the submission of 100s or 1000s of x random item just for the purpose of making people grind away at something.
Yeah, I think I'll try something else (This is Hard)
Title: Useless No more.
Availability: After the Tools Quest
Discription: While you go eating stacks of rotten flesh, there is a better option. Maybe if you can dry the flesh you could make it more edible. (Submitted by Baconus_Yum)
Crafting task: Make 1 Drying Rack
Crafting Task Discription: Make slabs by putting Dead Wood into the bottom 3 squares of the crafting grid. Then do the same with the slabs.
Detection task: 1 Monster Jerky
Detection task Discription: Right click on the drying rack once you place it on a wall. Wait for a while and you will get this edible, dried out rotten flesh called Monster Jerky
Rewards: 20 Monster Jerky

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thephoenixlodge

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Yeah, I think I'll try something else (This is Hard)
Title: Useless No more.
Availability: After the Tools Quest
Discription: While you go eating stacks of rotten flesh, there is a better option. Maybe if you can dry the flesh you could make it more edible. (Submitted by Baconus_Yum)
Crafting task: Make 1 Drying Rack
Crafting Task Discription: Make slabs by putting Dead Wood into the bottom 3 squares of the crafting grid. Then do the same with the slabs.
Detection task: 1 Monster Jerky
Detection task Discription: Right click on the drying rack once you place it on a wall. Wait for a while and you will get this edible, dried out rotten flesh called Monster Jerky
Rewards: 20 Monster Jerky

Edit: Changed availability and added a comma
User submitted quests will not be happening. Too much time required to manage it, and inevitably someone will get upset because their submission gets missed or turned down.
 

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Its funny how modded players get so used to the mods that they forget(or not even know) the good old vanilla ways! I present you a vanilla redstone clock that I used in my smeltery(mine as a few adaptations to be able to turn on and off but I leave that as an exercise and due the fact of not being able to take a screenshoot of mine at the moment)

Also, the redstone clock is from Extra utilities, not OpenBlocks
If you have access to nether quartz, you can put a comparator next to a hopper under the basin. When a molten block solidifies in the basin and passes through the hopper the comparator puts out a redstone signal which can activate the faucet and start draining the next block.

As long as each ore is loaded in multiples of 9 and all the ore has been smelted first, you only need to punch the faucet once to get all the contents out.


Tried to find the video where I first saw this but no luck.
 
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If you have access to nether quartz, you can put a comparator next to a hopper under the basin. When a molten block solidifies in the basin and passes through the hopper the comparator puts out a redstone signal which can activate the faucet and start draining the next block.

As long as each ore is loaded in multiples of 9 and all the ore has been smelted first, you only need to punch the faucet once to get all the contents out.


Tried to find the video where I first saw this but no luck.
Another clever vanilla solution!
No need for nice blocks from mods to do stuff! Usually, redstone blocks dont bring nothing new, they just compact it to one block but, its still possible to do it with normal redstone!

And you can use this on the ingot caster, so you dont even need to smelt multiples of 9 ingots.
 
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