If needed we can point you towards the nerfing that you so desire, it has in fact been doneVanilla is so OP. I mean seriously. Zombies drop rotten flesh and you can EAT that?! Infinite free food? What about stone? All those free tools. I am offended. Please, someone take a nerfbat to it and fix this nonsense now!
.I think Jaded said it best with
I stand by my opinion with the fact the mod does not need to change and nor should it. The configs are there for a reason and there is no reason "balance" should be forced on a player. Me personally, I have worlds which I have tuned to be extremely hard, and I have worlds where I just want to have fun. Both these worlds have similar mods in them. By forcing an option means that takes away my choice on how my two types of worlds work.
If everything was config based then sure I have no issues with it, but with options already there in the configs, further options don't really add a whole lot. So what can be done next then? Change how the mod works fundamentally by adding in things like a tiered upgrade system as suggested in this thread. If this comes to pass and it's a config option then as before, I have no problem with it. However I still think it's unnecessary as there are balancing config options already. The way I have been reading this thread is more of a mod level change rather then a config level change and that to me, is a forced thing.
Defaults are key. If your defaults aren't what people are using then people won't use it simply due to the defaults. GregTech, for example, was a great mod in 1.4.7. People loved it. It proved the endgame challenge everyone wanted. In 1.5 and up, people hated the grind. The option to change the configs back to the way it was in 1.4.7 is still there, nobody wants to do it though; it's just a big hassle. If the default in MFR was too hard or too tedious for some people, they would just drop the mod either ignorant of the configs or unwilling to change them for the sake of the mod.
Heh, that's in my signature. Along with some other random links.
Would having it slightly harder be such a pain though that everyone would drop MFR? That's maybe 5% of people playing. On the other hand, most people I know don't use MFR because its too OP. If anything, it might gain users.
So that's where I got. I thought it was in some other thread. And I definitely agree on that. Although someone went through the trouble of fixing them in some other thread.
You'd never know unless you tried it. Most people would probably do a "My machine haz pwr but isnt wrking. plz halp" because they didn't check the changelogs. People don't like change especially change they didn't want in the first place.
So have you and the people you know tried changing the configs for MFR? Since it's all highly configurable with how hard things are (And by hard I'm saying cost is justifying it's use) it's as easy as changing one or two options. There are gregtech recipes if you use gregtech (These were super expensive back when I first looked at them, not sure now though), and there is also TE recipes which I think does really well to give a nice middle ground for the mod. Add to that you can make it so TE recipes take steel to make them and MFR instantly becomes a mid to late game mod. If those options just aren't enough, you can change how much power is required per machine.
For me to change the configs though, they need to be there... I can't change it to tiered upgrades for example if the config doesn't exist.or how about you yourself change the configs to suit your vision, quit calling MFR OP as if your opinion is canon, and lay this issue to rest?
What I like about this thread is that skyboy has been silently lurking, liking posts that say that MFR is fine the way it is, wish he'd comment
Even in vanilla nobody uses those -.- Just saying, thaumcraft requires a lot of research, steves carts is very expensive, and forestry requires a non renewable resource, and if you want it to be good, a good sapling, which = time.
if you're about to say that thumcraft is a good example of a balance between effort and reward, i'm gonna punch you.
thanks for the correction*reward? And chill man.
well i really do need to chill, after those researches >_<Azanor himself said it needs reworking. But it isn't too bad. Considering its free wood with little to no cost, its not bad. And once you get over the initial grind, you're fine!thanks for the correction
if you're lucky enough to not quit before that, which again makes MFR a better option.
