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TomeWyrm · Feb 10, 2015

Odd, the pack still hasn't updated yet.

Senseidragon · Feb 10, 2015

It's a conspiracy!!

tooncool64 · Feb 10, 2015

haven't gotten a reply yet but I did send the update. They say it will take some time so sorry!
EDIT: The header in front of my thread says "Upload waiting"! It should be up within the hour folks!

TomeWyrm · Feb 11, 2015

The combination of Admin Commands Toolbox and Tell Me is simply amazing for pack creation purposes.

This is a 512x512x256 block area - in other words one region file... though not literally because I centered it around 0,0. The only things that didn't report quite right are the forestry ores, metadata 0 is apatite, 1 is copper, and 2 is tin. I fixed that manually in the ores distribution report.

This is the ore generation.

Code:

minecraft Gold Ore   |   8,744
minecraft Iron Ore   |   92,056
minecraft Coal Ore   |   181,662
minecraft Lapis Lazuli Ore   |   3,646
minecraft Diamond Ore   |   3,053
minecraft Redstone Ore   |   25,795
minecraft Emerald Ore   |   1,667
Thaumcraft Cinnabar Ore   |   14,087
Thaumcraft Air Infused Stone   |   5,282
Thaumcraft Fire Infused Stone   |   3,345
Thaumcraft Water Infused Stone   |   4,577
Thaumcraft Earth Infused Stone   |   4,964
Thaumcraft Order Infused Stone   |   3,507
Thaumcraft Entropy Infused Stone   |   4,996
Thaumcraft Amber Bearing Stone   |   12,424
ThermalFoundation Copper Ore   |   39,356
ThermalFoundation Tin Ore   |   48,233
ThermalFoundation Silver Ore   |   41,941
ThermalFoundation Lead Ore   |   52,695
ThermalFoundation Ferrous Ore   |   3,745
IC2 Copper Ore   |   114,020
IC2 Tin Ore   |   80,699
IC2 Uranium Ore   |   6,927
IC2 Lead Ore   |   14,548
Forestry Apatite Ore   |   7,251
Forestry Copper Ore   |   38,676
Forestry Tin Ore   |   48,849
Railcraft Sulfur Ore   |   4,331
Railcraft Saltpeter Ore   |   355
Railcraft Poor Iron Ore   |   18,022
Railcraft Poor Gold Ore   |   583
Railcraft Poor Copper Ore   |   58
Railcraft Poor Tin Ore   |   184
Railcraft Poor Lead Ore   |   5,665
TConstruct Iron Oreberry Bush   |   197
TConstruct Gold Oreberry Bush   |   47
TConstruct Copper Oreberry Bush   |   364
TConstruct Tin Oreberry Bush   |   418
TConstruct Aluminum Oreberry Bush   |   784
TConstruct Essence Berry Bush   |   162
TConstruct Copper Ore   |   15,709
TConstruct Tin Ore   |   14,909
TConstruct Aluminum Ore   |   15,405
TConstruct Iron Gravel Ore   |   14
TConstruct Gold Gravel Ore   |   25
TConstruct Copper Gravel Ore   |   27
TConstruct Tin Gravel Ore   |   65
TConstruct Aluminum Gravel Ore   |   83
harvestcraft Salt Ore   |   38,690

This is the pre-tweak botania flower generation

Code:

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*** NOTE *** The Block ID is for very specific debugging or fixing purposes only!!!
It WILL be different on every world since Minecraft 1.7, since they are dynamically allocated by the game!!!
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Block name  | Display name  |  Count | ID:meta | Count TE
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Botania:flower  | Mystical White Flower  |  263 |  239:0  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Orange Flower  |  206 |  239:1  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Magenta Flower  |  183 |  239:2  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Light Blue Flower |  223 |  239:3  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Yellow Flower  |  221 |  239:4  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Lime Flower  |  176 |  239:5  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Pink Flower  |  237 |  239:6  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Gray Flower  |  191 |  239:7  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Light Gray Flower |  215 |  239:8  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Cyan Flower  |  199 |  239:9  |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Purple Flower  |  261 |  239:10 |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Blue Flower  |  214 |  239:11 |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Brown Flower  |  224 |  239:12 |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Green Flower  |  169 |  239:13 |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Red Flower  |  218 |  239:14 |  0
Botania:flower  | Mystical Black Flower  |  222 |  239:15 |  0

Here's the whole raw file: http://pastebin.com/3mvxHc5g

The TL;DR is that Thermal Expansion, IndustrialCraft, Forestry, and Tinker's Construct are all generating Copper and Tin, TE and IC2 are both generating Lead, and I think those are the only direct overlaps.

Interestingly IndustrialCraft 2 generates 3 times the copper, 1.5 times the tin, and about a quarter as much lead as Thermal Expansion.
Thermal Expansion has the same amounts of ores as forestry for the ores they share.
Tinker's Construct generates a third the tin and a quarter the copper of Forestry/Thermal Expansion.

Senseidragon · Feb 11, 2015

It'd be nice to get rid of the ore overlap in my opinion. TiCo should be happy with the TE Oregen because as you noted, TE makes more of everything it needs.

I'd suggest:

Turn off Copper and Tin in Forestry
Turn off Copper, Tin and Lead in IC2
Turn off all the Poor Ores in Railcraft
Turn off Iron, Gold, Copper and Tin Ores, Gravels and Bushes in Tinker's Construct
Leave Thaumcraft alone

That leaves each mod's unique ores alone (Apatite for Forestry, Uranium for IC2, Saltpeter and Sulfur for Railcraft, and Aluminum for Tinker's Construct)
Whether you want to ditch the Salt Ore for Harvestcraft is up for debate. You can craft salt with a pot and a bucket of water, so the ore is sort of redundant.

While you're fiddling around in configs, you may want to turn off Overworld clouds if you have Natura installed. The other clouds in other dimensions are fine. This can also be left to the user to do, but many users aren't proficient with editing config files.

tooncool64 · Feb 11, 2015

Now this is weird. The update is still not out yet. If its not out today, it will be out tommarow. And thanks guys. I will be looking into that for the next update!

Senseidragon · Feb 11, 2015

It'll be on the launcher when it's on the launcher.

We know it is out of your hands at the moment.

Senseidragon · Feb 11, 2015

Meanwhile, I'm putting together a pack that mirrors what the new Forgecraft2 Server is running according to Direwolf20 and my own observations of his video. Obviously it only includes public releases of mods, so the Thermal Dynamics he mentioned are not present.

It keeps me occupied while I consider @1SDAN 's R2R ideas.

TomeWyrm · Feb 11, 2015

I'd leave the essence "oreberry" bushes though. Which is technically what Senseidragon said, I'm just clarifying it explicitly. XP grinding is one of the least enjoyable aspects of MC, and the tico berries are pretty easy to automate. Also you have EnderIO, which makes this a lot better. Only mods I've seen with Exp storage are EnderIO, OpenBlocks, Liquid XP, Thaumcraft, and MineFactory Reloaded.

I too would nix the salt ore. The instant you get an automatic mining solution, you'll be SWIMMING in salt if you leave the ore generating.

I swear I've said this a dozen times already, but yeah, those Natura overworld clouds are annoying in so many ways. So are the End clouds. Fighting that dragon is a PAIN with those clouds. The nether ones are fun though, they give you slightly more cover from ghasts, can make sulfur and charcoal, and just generally are kinda neat.

Senseidragon · Feb 13, 2015

Drat. Still no update on the launcher. I think someone fell asleep before clicking the 'Approve' button.

tooncool64 · Feb 13, 2015

Sorry! They did respond to the thread, but I forgot perms to agricraft. I sent the permission but I have not gotten a response yet. Sorry!

Emanuel Olinasde · Feb 14, 2015

Can I help out for testing?

tooncool64 · Feb 14, 2015

Sure! I will send you the code now, but an update will be here soon so you might not want to start a world.

tooncool64 · Feb 15, 2015

Hey guys! Its out! Please let me know what you think about the update!

Senseidragon · Feb 15, 2015

tooncool64 said:
Hey guys! Its out! Please let me know what you think about the update!

Update your first post with the changelog and current version if you can.

Senseidragon · Feb 15, 2015

So far things are looking better. Adding a few testing mods into the pack to check ore distribution. Botania looks like it was tweaked down to good levels.

I still can't stand the Natura overworld clouds. I'll turn that off in my config. Some people may like them.

tooncool64 · Feb 16, 2015

Ok thank you. It seems @Maul_Junior wanted an invite so I am pming u now!

Senseidragon · Feb 16, 2015

Ok, checked a 2x2 chunk radius in a random Forest biome. (32 blocks x 32 blocks)

Ores that are only generated by a single mod I really don't see as a big deal, as they aren't abnormally increasing the amount of that resource.

Coal Ore: 663
Iron Ore: 360
Gold Ore: 49
Lapis Ore: 18
Redstone Ore: 127
Diamond Ore: 15
Apatite: 98
Aluminum Ore: 55
Uranium Ore: 19
Silver Ore: 194
Ferrous Ore: 18

Edit: Copper Ore: 711 (added by four different mods)
Tin Ore: 680 (added by four different mods)
Lead Ore: 274 (added by two different mods)

To me, the last three seem excessive.

Senseidragon · Feb 16, 2015

DISCLAIMER: These are my tweaks only, and as such are just suggestions. Feel free to question or ignore any or all of them.

Okay, about 100 lines of config changes later...

Agricraft

Configuration.cfg

B:"Resource Crops"=true

B:"Weeds can overtake plants"=false
# (weeds still on, they just don't kill your plants)

B:GenerateDefaults=true
# (recreate mutation file for resource crops)

Aroma1997

AromaBackup.cfg

I:delay=60

Aroma1997Core.cfg

B:checkVersion=false

Botania

Botania.cfg

B:versionChecking.enabled=false

BuildCraft

Main.cfg

B:update.check=false

CodeChickenCore

codechickencore.cfg

checkUpdates=false

CoFH

ThermalExpansion.cfg

B:Accumulator.PassiveGen=true
# (This confused Mobius in a recent let's play)

CoFHLoot.cfg

B:WitherSkeletonsDropHeads=true

CoFHCore.cfg

B:EnableUpdateNotifications=false
B:FlatBedrock=true
I:FlatBedrockLayers=2
# (Can set previous to 1 if people can't possibly break it)
B:ReplaceVanillaGeneration=true

ThermalExpansion-Ores.json

(Various Ore Generation Tweaks)

Vanilla.json

(Various Ore Generation Tweaks)

D3Core

D3Core.cfg

B:updateWarning=false

Forestry

Common.conf

performance.particleFX.enabled=false
performance.backpacks.resupply=false
tweaks.nags.disabled=true
tweaks.upgradenotice.disabled=true
world.generate.copper=false
world.generate.tin=false

Modules.cfg

B:mail=false

HungerOverhaul

HungerOverhaul.cfg

I:breedingTimeoutMultiplier=2
I:breedingTimeoutMultiplier=2
I:cactusRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:childDurationMultiplier=2
I:cocoaRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:cropRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:dryingRackTimeMultiplier=2
I:eggTimeoutMultiplier=2
I:milkedTimeout=2
I:netherWartRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:noSunlightRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:saplingRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:sugarcaneRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:treeCropRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:wrongBiomeRegrowthMultiplier=0
I:wrongBiomeRegrowthMultiplierSugarcane=0

B:addFoodTooltips=true
B:addWellFedEffect=true
D:foodHungerDivider=2.0
D:foodHungerToSaturationDivider=1.0
D:foodSaturationDivider=1.0
I:foodStackSizeMultiplier=1
B:modifyFoodEatingSpeed=true
B:modifyFoodStackSize=true
B:modifyFoodValues=true
B:useHOFoodValues=false

I:chestLootMaxStackSize=16

B:constantHungerLoss=false
I:damageOnStarve=20

Logistics Pipes

LogisticsPipes.cfg

B:checkForUpdates=false
I:detectionLength=40

Magical Crops

MagicalCrops.cfg

B:"Sheep drop raw lamb when killed"=false
B:"Squids drop raw calimari when killed"=false
B:"Carrot & Potato seeds drop from tall grass"=false
I:"Change to disable or enabled second seed drop, 1 = Enabled (Default), 0 = Disabled"=0
B:"Standard seeds drop from tall grass"=false

Magic Bees

MagicBees.cfg
B:disableVersionNotification=true

MrTJPCore

MrTJPCore.cfg

B:check_versions=false

INpureProjects

INpureCore.cfg

B:check=false

Powercrystals/MineFactoryReloaded

Common.cfg

RecipeSets {

B:ThermalExpansion=true
B:Vanilla=false

}
B:SacredRubberSapling=false
# (The above line may show up multiple times in the config file)

RailCraft

railcraft.cfg

B:check.version.online=false
I:armor.overalls=5
I:creosote.bottle=5
I:fuel.coal=10
I:fuel.coke=10
I:steel.ingot=5
I:tie.stone=5
I:tie.wood=10
I:tool.crowbar=5
I:track.basic=10

B:copper=false
B:gold=false
B:iron=false
B:lead=false
B:tin=false

blocks.cfg

B:residual.heat=false
B:Ore.poor.copper=false
B:Ore.poor.gold=false
B:Ore.poor.iron=false
B:Ore.poor.lead=false
B:Ore.poor.tin=false

Natura

Natura.cfg

B:"Generate Overworld Clouds"=false

Project Red

ProjectRed.cfg

B:"Enable Version checking"=false

Spice Of Life

spiceoflife.cfg

I:new.player.food.eaten.threshold=12

Thaumcraft

Thaumcraft.cfg

I:node_rarity=24
B:shaders=false

Tinker's Construct

tinkersconstruct.cfg

B:"Remove Vanilla Tool Effectiveness"=true

TTCore

ttcore.cfg

B:superDuperFunMode=false

IC2

ic2.ini

copperOre = false
tinOre = false
leadOre = false

The world seems pretty stable now.

If anyone is interested in the CoFH ore adjustments I can pastebin them or something. They aren't major, just a lot of amount tweaks scattered across the files. It isn't as good as CustomOreGen or anything, but it brings the ores more into balance without having 4 mods worth of ore types all over the place.

tooncool64 · Feb 16, 2015

Senseidragon said:
DISCLAIMER: These are my tweaks only, and as such are just suggestions. Feel free to question or ignore any or all of them.

Okay, about 100 lines of config changes later...

Agricraft

Configuration.cfg

B:"Resource Crops"=true

B:"Weeds can overtake plants"=false
# (weeds still on, they just don't kill your plants)

B:GenerateDefaults=true
# (recreate mutation file for resource crops)
Aroma1997

AromaBackup.cfg

I:delay=60
Aroma1997Core.cfg

B:checkVersion=false
Botania

Botania.cfg

B:versionChecking.enabled=false
BuildCraft

Main.cfg

B:update.check=false
CodeChickenCore

codechickencore.cfg

checkUpdates=false
CoFH

ThermalExpansion.cfg

B:Accumulator.PassiveGen=true
# (This confused Mobius in a recent let's play)
CoFHLoot.cfg

B:WitherSkeletonsDropHeads=true
CoFHCore.cfg

B:EnableUpdateNotifications=false
B:FlatBedrock=true
I:FlatBedrockLayers=2
# (Can set previous to 1 if people can't possibly break it)
B:ReplaceVanillaGeneration=true
ThermalExpansion-Ores.json

(Various Ore Generation Tweaks)
Vanilla.json

(Various Ore Generation Tweaks)
D3Core

D3Core.cfg

B:updateWarning=false
Forestry

Common.conf

performance.particleFX.enabled=false
performance.backpacks.resupply=false
tweaks.nags.disabled=true
tweaks.upgradenotice.disabled=true
world.generate.copper=false
world.generate.tin=false
Modules.cfg

B:mail=false
HungerOverhaul

HungerOverhaul.cfg

I:breedingTimeoutMultiplier=2
I:breedingTimeoutMultiplier=2
I:cactusRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:childDurationMultiplier=2
I:cocoaRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:cropRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:dryingRackTimeMultiplier=2
I:eggTimeoutMultiplier=2
I:milkedTimeout=2
I:netherWartRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:noSunlightRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:saplingRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:sugarcaneRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:treeCropRegrowthMultiplier=2
I:wrongBiomeRegrowthMultiplier=0
I:wrongBiomeRegrowthMultiplierSugarcane=0

B:addFoodTooltips=true
B:addWellFedEffect=true
D:foodHungerDivider=2.0
D:foodHungerToSaturationDivider=1.0
D:foodSaturationDivider=1.0
I:foodStackSizeMultiplier=1
B:modifyFoodEatingSpeed=true
B:modifyFoodStackSize=true
B:modifyFoodValues=true
B:useHOFoodValues=false

I:chestLootMaxStackSize=16

B:constantHungerLoss=false
I:damageOnStarve=20
Logistics Pipes

LogisticsPipes.cfg

B:checkForUpdates=false
I:detectionLength=40
Magical Crops

MagicalCrops.cfg

B:"Sheep drop raw lamb when killed"=false
B:"Squids drop raw calimari when killed"=false
B:"Carrot & Potato seeds drop from tall grass"=false
I:"Change to disable or enabled second seed drop, 1 = Enabled (Default), 0 = Disabled"=0
B:"Standard seeds drop from tall grass"=false
Magic Bees

MagicBees.cfg
B:disableVersionNotification=true
MrTJPCore

MrTJPCore.cfg

B:check_versions=false
INpureProjects

INpureCore.cfg

B:check=false
Powercrystals/MineFactoryReloaded

Common.cfg

RecipeSets {

B:ThermalExpansion=true
B:Vanilla=false
}
B:SacredRubberSapling=false
# (The above line may show up multiple times in the config file)
RailCraft

railcraft.cfg

B:check.version.online=false
I:armor.overalls=5
I:creosote.bottle=5
I:fuel.coal=10
I:fuel.coke=10
I:steel.ingot=5
I:tie.stone=5
I:tie.wood=10
I:tool.crowbar=5
I:track.basic=10

B:copper=false
B:gold=false
B:iron=false
B:lead=false
B:tin=false

blocks.cfg

B:residual.heat=false
B:Ore.poor.copper=false
B:Ore.poor.gold=false
B:Ore.poor.iron=false
B:Ore.poor.lead=false
B:Ore.poor.tin=false
Natura

Natura.cfg

B:"Generate Overworld Clouds"=false
Project Red

ProjectRed.cfg

B:"Enable Version checking"=false
Spice Of Life

spiceoflife.cfg

I:new.player.food.eaten.threshold=12
Thaumcraft

Thaumcraft.cfg

I:node_rarity=24
B:shaders=false
Tinker's Construct

tinkersconstruct.cfg

B:"Remove Vanilla Tool Effectiveness"=true
TTCore

ttcore.cfg

B:superDuperFunMode=false
IC2

ic2.ini

copperOre = false
tinOre = false
leadOre = false

The world seems pretty stable now.

If anyone is interested in the CoFH ore adjustments I can pastebin them or something. They aren't major, just a lot of amount tweaks scattered across the files. It isn't as good as CustomOreGen or anything, but it brings the ores more into balance without having 4 mods worth of ore types all over the place.

Interesting, I will read this is the morning. But, why do you have magical crops config changes when I have removed the mod

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