Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

[Chocorate]

Greg loves putting his opinionated whining in config names and code like we love stuffing things into hashtags #IdontEvenCareAboutGregtechButItdBeNiceForHimToLearnALifeLessonInTheProcessOrMaybeHesAlreadyAnAdultSoHisBrainIsntLearningHowTheWorldWorksAnymoreSadly

 

[Hydra]

because it slows everything down

Hardly. It needs to go because it's unethical.

 

[jmixmaster]

The more people tolerate this behavior, the more they are enabling him to do something even worse then just crashing the client.

 

[DoctorOr]

the plate thing actually is in the lists. Same file.

No, it is not. Here is the complete section of the config, nothing removed, only some trues set to false.

general {
    B:ConnectedMachineCasingTextures=true
    B:Debug=false
    B:Debug2=false
    B:ShowCapes=true
    B:TooEasyMode=false
    B:WoodNeedsSawForCrafting=false
    B:disable_STDERR=false
    B:disable_STDOUT=false
    B:harderstone=false
    B:hiddenores=true
    B:online=true
    B:smallerStoneToolDurability=false
    B:smallerWoodToolDurability=false
    B:unsuspiciousHungerConfig=false

And here's the right config for you: B:ForestryBronzeNerf=true

Again, no that does not work. Why do you presume I've never actually tested things? The case-sensitive word "Forestry" appears only in the config block "unificatortargets"

In fact, here are the full and total unedited configs as generated by GregTech 3.10d less than a minute ago. Make sure any config option you suggest appears in the files:

DynamicConfig.cfg
http://pastebin.com/dwHFGdbZ

GregTech.cfg
http://pastebin.com/gFwBmL73

(Hint: Just because a config option existed in 1.4, does not mean it still exists in 1.5)

 

[CrissHill]

He's. Is. Making. A. Game. Crash. On. Purpose.

How thick is that piece of oak in front of your face? He's the little kid that destroys a toy that he's not allowed to play with so other kids can't either. I mean, how can a human being smart enough to use a computer not understand how incredibly wrong this is?

This really shows that the origin of the word "fan" is "fanatic"...Sheez.

He needs to remove it because putting it in in the first place is WRONG.

Erm. Which one of us is the fanatic? What i just said in the previous post... I'll even use capital letters so you will understand this properly: NO CRASH.[DOUBLEPOST=1374092364][/DOUBLEPOST]

No, it is not. Here is the complete section of the config, nothing removed, only some trues set to false.

general {
    B:ConnectedMachineCasingTextures=true
    B:Debug=false
    B:Debug2=false
    B:ShowCapes=true
    B:TooEasyMode=false
    B:WoodNeedsSawForCrafting=false
    B:disable_STDERR=false
    B:disable_STDOUT=false
    B:harderstone=false
    B:hiddenores=true
    B:online=true
    B:smallerStoneToolDurability=false
    B:smallerWoodToolDurability=false
    B:unsuspiciousHungerConfig=false

Again, no that does not work. Why do you presume I've never actually tested things? The case-sensitive word "Forestry" appears only in the config block "unificatortargets"

In fact, here are the full and total unedited configs as generated by GregTech 3.10d less than a minute ago. Make sure any config option you suggest appears in the files:

DynamicConfig.cfg
http://pastebin.com/dwHFGdbZ

GregTech.cfg
http://pastebin.com/gFwBmL73

(Hint: Just because a config option existed in 1.4, does not mean it still exists in 1.5)

Sorry, I'm not sure if the latest version doesn't have the forestry bronze nerf option, but it is in 3.06 of GT. (playing on a modpack without the bronze nerf) It should be under Features { } and it prolly isnt generated by default.

also reading the GT forums i saw gregorious saying that there's config options for plates. You should find them somewhere in the file.

 

[DoctorOr]

And these changes are not present in the version released for the FTB pack in question, making that distinction moot.

It's not moot, because FTB doesn't change config files other than setting block and item ids. So if it ever does update, all these nerfs will be in place.

Hell, if you install 0.7 of wgt right this second, you will have the GT/Tinkers ingot dupe.

 

[Hydra]

Erm. Which one of us is the fanatic? What i just said in the previous post... I'll even use capital letters so you will understand this properly: NO CRASH.

Trollolol right?

You know damn well what I'm talking about. The code should not be there. Period. Crashing someone's game in case another mod does the same is a dick move.

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

He's. Is. Making. A. Game. Crash. On. Purpose.

How thick is that piece of oak in front of your face? He's the little kid that destroys a toy that he's not allowed to play with so other kids can't either. I mean, how can a human being smart enough to use a computer not understand how incredibly wrong this is?

This really shows that the origin of the word "fan" is "fanatic"...Sheez.

He needs to remove it because putting it in in the first place is WRONG.

Seriously.

The code he put in place will crash the game if ANYONE tries to un-nerf anything he does while his mod is installed. This isn't just targeted at mDyio, although it was probably created as a result of mDyio's un-nerfing of the wood nerf, this is targeted at anyone who wants to change the things GregTech does. And not even by detecting changes in Gtech code, but by looking for ANY alternative recipes to any recipes he includes, then crashing the game when it detects something else that produces the same item with a different recipe.

This is WAY bigger than Gtech vs mDyio. This is Greg deliberately crashing the game, via an 'exception handle' (the exception in question is if there are multiple recipes for the same item), any time someone comes up with an alternate method of making anything. Do I really need to spell out how BAD that is?

 

[Hydra]

This is WAY bigger than Gtech vs mDyio. This is Greg deliberately crashing the game, via an 'exception handle' (the exception in question is if there are multiple recipes for the same item), any time someone comes up with an alternate method of making anything. Do I really need to spell out how BAD that is?

Exactly. Why not delete system32 while we're at it? Those darned users who are not playing the game how it's supposed to be!

 

[DoctorOr]

also reading the GT forums i saw gregorious saying that there's config options for plates. You should find them somewhere in the file.

Greg lies. Sometimes he only lies by saying "it was always there, go update to this version I just uploaded 30 seconds ago", othertimes its just a flat out bald faced lie, but he lies a lot. And he's lying there.

 

[CrissHill]

This is WAY bigger than Gtech vs mDyio. This is Greg deliberately crashing the game, via an 'exception handle' (the exception in question is if there are multiple recipes for the same item), any time someone comes up with an alternate method of making anything. Do I really need to spell out how BAD that is?

Ah. that's kinda bad way to do it. I'll check the code myself now..

 

[egor66]

& now gloating gregs own words "I can say that crashing the game wasn't the best option (for users) to cause mDiyo to do something about GT-TC "incompatibility", but it indeed was effective!
No more than a day and it got fixed."

now some in GT forums are pushing for more tinkers compatibility with GT, IE they want tinkers tools a lot harder craft to fall in line with GT!!, looks like they have taken Mdyios olive branch as caving -in.

 

[SonOfABirch]

"I can change other mods recipies but if anyone tries to change mine I'll crash your game"

 

[Hydra]

Someone point that guy to this thread to show him that there's plenty people who really like his mod and don't want him to do whatever those nutjobs demand?

 

[Chocorate]

I feel bad for mDiyo, I hope he knows that he's respected here.

And really though, Greg isn't going to change. He's just a dick. I'm just waiting for the FTB team to make a decision.[DOUBLEPOST=1374092703][/DOUBLEPOST]

Someone point that guy to this thread to show him that there's plenty people who really like his mod and don't want him to do whatever those nutjobs demand?

Either he's going to cry or he's gonna bring his minions here. Not such a good idea, man.

 

[Pokefenn]

Just want to drop in and say one thing.
Both mods have conflicting things.

Greg wants to create a environment where everything is a "grind", so he edits other mods to force in his environment to be in his image.
If mDiyo wants to have a environment in his mod where wood gives 4 planks, greg shoudnt cause a crash and the pumpkin thing, sengir or the UE guys never did that to him and shoudnt -.-
I just think greg has got a bit of a god complex of himself now.
And i have removed gregtech from my custom modpack, nobody messes with things this big.

 

[Symmetryc]

I just ordered a tank and a platoon of armed guards just in case you decide to post again.

(for possible misunderstandings: It's just to show how exaggerated the quoted post was)

I was being sarcastic . (If you were too than I seriously fail...)

 

[egor66]

Someone point that guy to this thread to show him that there's plenty people who really like his mod and don't want him to do whatever those nutjobs demand?

No way he would leave his inner sanctum.

 

[Greevir]

I feel bad for mDiyo, I hope he knows that he's respected here.

And really though, Greg isn't going to change. He's just a dick. I'm just waiting for the FTB team to make a decision.[DOUBLEPOST=1374092703][/DOUBLEPOST]

Either he's going to cry or he's gonna bring his minions here. Not such a good idea, man.

Honestly, I don't see the FTB guys doing a thing about it. I seriously doubt they'd just stop using GT in their packs.

 

[Hydra]

I think the FTB team should set some guidelines when it comes to mods. I think it's obvious that although there are some amazing and nice modders out there (I still want KingLemming's babies) there are also some that are rather a bit 'not nice'. Those have no place in a modpack catering towards easy use for non tech-savvy users. And Greg literally said he "doesn't fucking care" about these users.