Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

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egor66

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This shouldn't "go away". The FTB team needs to deal with the situation at hand.
dont hold your breath, in a week or two if its not all done & dusted we may get some info regarding FTB stance.

Btw it seems Myio is taking a couple of days break can you really blame him.
 

Neecro

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Well, that only did two mods incompatible in our eyes, like old school. Nothing less nothing more
 

TheLegendaryFoxFire

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you do realise that it crashes on LOAD and not during GAMEPLAY?

It's pretty much saying.. Here's the problem: blahblah. Solution: Remove one of these mods because they are not compatible! ( GT or the other offender)
Ok. I'm done creeping in the shadows on this thread. Me, personally love to play with both Tinkers Construct and GregTech Interglacial. When a petty little disagreement causes the game many of us love to play (and watch others play) to crash/fail at starting up and than forces us to pick between one or the other is not the way to settle anything. It causes strife and lingering negative feelings in both parties which is something that should not a happen in something that requires everyone to work together. And going back to Greg leaving the code in but not leaving it active is the same thing as nuclear deterrent, the same reason the UN takes acting against other nations. Because the threat is real and could at anytime be re-activated at any moment.

Tl;Dr- Don't have one let sorry people :p
 

Enigmius1

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Honestly, I don't see the FTB guys doing a thing about it. I seriously doubt they'd just stop using GT in their packs.

If they don't, then I it might be time to start thinking about dropping FTB. There are some lines that shouldn't be crossed and forcing game crashes because he doesn't like it when modders do to him what he does to modders is one of them. GT has always been controversial and even though I think GT is a shit mod, I respected the FTB team decision to include GT for those who do enjoy it. Over time it has gone beyond controversial because of its approach to 'balance' and now its controversial because of its approach to control. That sort of thing ought not be tolerated, and it'll take more than just a discussion for Greg to finally get the message that his shit is out of line. By continuing to distribute GT as part of FTB packs, the FTB team is endorsing his behavior. There's no arguing around it. The time for discussions and negotiations was when Greg was abusing java exploits to make changes to closed source mods. Now it's time to shit or get off the pot.
 

CrissHill

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Then we get it already and you can stop repeating it. We're all aware of what he did. We need no clarification on the matter.


This whole thread has been a ranting lynch mob with people having really exaggerated opinions on what actually happened. What happened was between mdiyo and gregorious... it was normal drama that always happens in communities where people are passionated about what they do. Lynching is not really productive and serves -no purpose- at all. Let them handle their stuff as they both were guilty of wrong doing.

GT's trick of mixing up users into the mix was really bad though, and you guys should go and complain him about it if you feel dissatisfied or hurt about that manner.

Have a nice day guys!
 

PeggleFrank

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This whole thread has been a ranting lynch mob with people having really exaggerated opinions on what actually happened. What happened was between mdiyo and gregorious... it was normal drama that always happens in communities where people are passionated about what they do. Lynching is not really productive and serves -no purpose- at all. Let them handle their stuff as they both were guilty of wrong doing.

GT's trick of mixing up users into the mix was really bad though, and you guys should go and complain him about it if you feel dissatisfied or hurt about that manner.

Have a nice day guys!

Didn't you say that you were leaving 4 pages ago?

Or was that a whole thread back?


EDIT: Oh, and saying that you don't like the change that Greg did doesn't mean that you're getting free respect from the opposition. You're still spouting bull**** out of your mouth. You seem to be doing that a bit, even though it's obvious you're on Greg's side of this debate.
 

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This whole thread has been a ranting lynch mob with people having really exaggerated opinions on what actually happened. What happened was between mdiyo and gregorious... it was normal drama that always happens in communities where people are passionated about what they do. Lynching is not really productive and serves -no purpose- at all. Let them handle their stuff as they both were guilty of wrong doing.

GT's trick of mixing up users into the mix was really bad though, and you guys should go and complain him about it if you feel dissatisfied or hurt about that manner.

Have a nice day guys!


Actually, I think it stopped being between mdiyo and gregorious when he inolved the user base that likes both by crashing their client. That user base could no longer play the game due to his decision. How is it normal drama when he crashes a game on purpose? What has anyone done to him to be treated thusly?
 

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And going back to Greg leaving the code in but not leaving it active

The code is very much active. If anyone makes a mod that changes a recipe that Gregtech has added, be it MDiyo, KingLemming, Eloraam or even yourself, the client will crash. The trigger is still active, it was the finger (Mdiyo's antinerf recipe) that has been lifted.[DOUBLEPOST=1374098359][/DOUBLEPOST]
What happened was between mdiyo and gregorious...

Except it most certainly is NOT as GregoriousTit decided it was a good idea to crash the USERS. That brings us all in on their little tiff.
 

PeggleFrank

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Except it most certainly is NOT as GregoriousTit decided it was a good idea to crash the USERS. That brings us all in on their little tiff.

I would assume that he did that because he thought that his cult of lunatics fanbase could help him out.

They can, but not enough to revert Mdiyo's change and to keep his mod protected from removal from modpacks/lawsuits.
 
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TheLegendaryFoxFire

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The code is very much active. If anyone makes a mod that changes a recipe that Gregtech has added, be it MDiyo, KingLemming, Eloraam or even yourself, the client will crash. The trigger is still active, it was the finger (Mdiyo's antinerf recipe) that has been lifted.
That's basically what I meant, you just happened to word it better than I could
 

egor66

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& now he is posting "Oh, and I don't care if GregTech is in a Modpack or not. It is not about publicity, it's about adding a reasonable Tech Tree, and needing a Saw to cut Logs into Planks is very reasonable." while Tahg, Wyld are there, I was under the impession that the 3 would be in talks to solve this, & he post this, yet more disrespectful behavior.
 

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& now he is posting "Oh, and I don't care if GregTech is in a Modpack or not. It is not about publicity, it's about adding a reasonable Tech Tree, and needing a Saw to cut Logs into Planks is very reasonable." while Tahg, Wyld are there, I was under the impession that the 3 would be in talks to solve this, & he post this, yet more disrespectful behavior.

This is why I say Greg really would do best for everyone. His fans and Himself to just bite the bullet and become a total conversion mod instead of a mod mod that mod all other mods and mod mod the mods that try to mod his mod.
 

ShneekeyTheLost

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Lost as always
This whole thread has been a ranting lynch mob with people having really exaggerated opinions on what actually happened. What happened was between mdiyo and gregorious... it was normal drama that always happens in communities where people are passionated about what they do. Lynching is not really productive and serves -no purpose- at all. Let them handle their stuff as they both were guilty of wrong doing.
Umm... no. What I did was decompile the mod and look at the source code. So I can pretty much definitively state that I do not have an exaggerated opinion on what actually happened.

No, what happened is not between mDyio and Gregorious. It *was* between them, then Gregorious decided to start crashing everyone's clients by putting in a VERY dangerous bit of code that will go off whenever ANYONE changes a recipe that he has altered. Not just mDyio... ANYONE.

SirSengir's bee trick was more appropriate than Greg's because:

* He didn't have a permanent crash bug, he just had bees explode.
* He did have a problem specifically with the Tekkit userbase insulting him and refusing to acquiesces to his request, therefore his response targeted the Tekkit userbase.
* Tekkit was, at the time, blatantly insulting him and daring him to do something. So he did. mDyio had no communication with or from Gregorious at all. Gregorious decided that, instead of talking about it, he would just crash things.
* Things changed, and the code was removed. Gregorious did not remove the code-bomb from his mod, merely flagged it to not trigger.

Mind you, I'm not stating that SerSengir's bee trick WAS appropriate, only that it was MORE appropriate than Greg's current shenanigans.

GT's trick of mixing up users into the mix was really bad though, and you guys should go and complain him about it if you feel dissatisfied or hurt about that manner.
Been there, done that. Greg's response: STFU.
 

egor66

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you guys gotta go check this out his answers are insane: http://forum.industrial-craft.net/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=7156&pageNo=832[DOUBLEPOST=1374099671][/DOUBLEPOST]
This is why I say Greg really would do best for everyone. His fans and Himself to just bite the bullet and become a total conversion mod instead of a mod mod that mod all other mods and mod mod the mods that try to mod his mod.
In Mdyio's MC forum section he recons Greg is heading that way & trying to pull some mods with him, I just dont know on that one, if so this is not the way to go about it.
 

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This is why I say Greg really would do best for everyone. His fans and Himself to just bite the bullet and become a total conversion mod instead of a mod mod that mod all other mods and mod mod the mods that try to mod his mod.
He didn't actually answer me when I suggested that.

Albeit I asked rather disrespectfully :)
 
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