FTB Mod Discussion: Greg-Tech

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Your opinion of Greg-Tech?

  • I like it!

    Votes: 121 51.3%
  • I don't like it!

    Votes: 78 33.1%
  • I can't decide!

    Votes: 37 15.7%

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Hydra

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Something interesting I found out: what's the difference between combining 4 coal and an iron ingot to make steel dust, then cook in a furnace to get steel (I think it's universal electricity's recipe) and to make an industrial blast furnace, use... some coal and ton of time to get steel? You use the same amount of materials to create it, you just waste time creating the machine and waiting for it to make steel.

It's because wasting time makes the game 'hard' and 'more enjoyable'.
 
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netchip

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It's because wasting time makes the game 'hard' and 'more enjoyable'.
GT makes my game less time wasting. Sorry. I automate everything, and stuff I use much, I do over clock.

For example, I can make steel machine hulls, making 8 steel in an overclocked blast furnace and plate bending 8 refined iron, is much quicker than macerating 32 coal, compressing two raw carbon fibre and making two advanced alloys.



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Shirkit

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I just loved the system GT did for hammering and filling the tools (vanilla for example), makes the game so much more fun to craft those items hahahaha I loved that concept
 

Loufmier

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I just loved the system GT did for hammering and filling the tools (vanilla for example), makes the game so much more fun to craft those items hahahaha I loved that concept
are you talking about addition of 2 gt tools to vanilla tools recipe? cant see why it`s a fun addition.
 

Shirkit

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If you simplify things to that point, then let's do this: add a bunch of machines just to get more vanilla iron? Let's play vanilla and leave this.

The hammer and the filer (the idea) are 2 tools that a blacksmith would use to forge a sword before metal casting, along with an anvil. This is why I loved the idea. Resembles blacksmithing a bit more accurately in the end.
 

Loufmier

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If you simplify things to that point, then let's do this: add a bunch of machines just to get more vanilla iron? Let's play vanilla and leave this.

The hammer and the filer (the idea) are 2 tools that a blacksmith would use to forge a sword before metal casting, along with an anvil. This is why I loved the idea. Resembles blacksmithing a bit more accurately in the end.
well, adding a forge and making use of an anvil would be more fun and realistic. TiC does it partially, and it fits nice into MC.

if i remember right casting is a process of pouring liquid metal into a mold and allowing it to solidify. so it really bugs me why would you use hammer and filer on a metal, and then melt it.
 

Shirkit

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well, adding a forge and making use of an anvil would be more fun and realistic. TiC does it partially, and it fits nice into MC.

if i remember right casting is a process of pouring liquid metal into a mold and allowing it to solidify. so it really bugs me why would you use hammer and filer on a metal, and then melt it.

It's an attempt to resemble blacksmithing. On metal casting you don't need a hammer, you just need to polish the material and sand paper to remove the metal excess.

This is before casting (mechanics that Tinkerer's Construct uses), where the metalsmith uses charcoal to heat the ingot and hammer it to the shape you want, then uses filer and sand paper (or similar) to shape it perfectly.
 

Loufmier

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This is before casting (mechanics that Tinkerer's Construct uses), where the metalsmith uses charcoal to heat the ingot and hammer it to the shape you want, then uses filer and sand paper (or similar) to shape it perfectly.
it looks to me, that you have different definition of metal casting than i do. until you clarify what you mean by casting, i dont think it`s wise for me to try and prove something to you.
 

Loufmier

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ok, we have same definition of metal casting, yet you`ve said that metal shaping goes before casting. what`s up with that?
 

Shirkit

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Before the invention of metal casting for forging weapons and tools, metalsmiths were all doing everything by shaping the metal. And where they don't use casting (Tinkerer's Construct), they use the shaping (GT), like in some places in medieval age.
 

Loufmier

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Before the invention of metal casting for forging weapons and tools, metalsmiths were all doing everything by shaping the metal. And where they don't use casting (Tinkerer's Construct), they use the shaping (GT), like in some places in medieval age.
but doesnt basic extraction of metal from ore require heating it and thus melting metal, in oder to cast it into a decent sized lump suitable for forging?
 

Shirkit

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No, one doesn't imply the other. The metalsmiths were working with the iron before without being able to cast a sword directly, without cracking or destroying the piece.
 

Loufmier

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No, one doesn't imply the other. The metalsmiths were working with the iron before without being able to cast a sword directly, without cracking or destroying the piece.
i`m not talking about casting a sword, i`m talking about casting a lump of metal, which is used for sword crafting.
casting sword directly is a more convenient way of doing thing, however i cannot say anything about it`s quality.

and if you think a bit - vanilla ore smelting, is basically a casting precess, and then goes simplified forging precess using crafting bench.
 

Shirkit

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Casting a lump of metal is an easier process and the result is not a pure ingot, nor hardened nor tempered, can break easily and if you just use that to cast directly into a sword, it would break. The hole point of smithing is to make the material useable for the tools. When they discovered the "proper" metal casting (that existed in Rome), they discovered how to make usable tools (but this was lost during medieval age, when metal smiths ruled).
 

Loufmier

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Casting a lump of metal is an easier process and the result is not a pure ingot, nor hardened nor tempered, can break easily and if you just use that to cast directly into a sword, it would break.

how can you break a lump of metal by casting, if casting process requires melting? are you sure you didnt mean "forging" or "shaping"?
 

Shirkit

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I mean to cast a lump of metal is easy. But if you get exactly this process (in medieval age) and instead of casting into a lump you cast into a sword, the result will be bad, as they didn't have the knowledge to cast properly into tools. This is when the shaping goes in, you get this casted metal and forge it to reinforce it and be able to make a tool out of it.
 

RedBoss

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I mean to cast a lump of metal is easy. But if you get exactly this process (in medieval age) and instead of casting into a lump you cast into a sword, the result will be bad, as they didn't have the knowledge to cast properly into tools. This is when the shaping goes in, you get this casted metal and forge it to reinforce it and be able to make a tool out of it.