AHA! So I was right, and it was a recent bug that developed? Well... thanks for the updates guys. I guess I'll just wait for a pack update because that's the only way it will get pushed to our server - I know he likes to use modpacks with zero customization (such as updating one specific mod would be a customization). I can wait, all I wanted was an answer to this and I'll assume that we now have it thanks to your dogged research Pyure, and RealKC.... thanks guys.