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Look, this not a thread angry at Greg The Man. This is a thread saying what Greg did was unacceptable. Just because he did something bad doesn't mean that it's okay to start doing it to him.

No. No. Let's not encourage this. Everyone loses. It was bad when Sengir did it. It was bad when CovertJaguar did it. It is bad when Greg does it. You don't make users the tool to play out your agenda.

What he wants is a total conversion mod. And that'd be fine. Greg should do that. What he doesn't want is mixed modpack play.

Let me give you a thought that could keep you up at night: How would you know if he did?

The answer is yes. This is why I'm concerned. I decompile and skim every mod I play. Every one. Because I am not very excited about the prospect of running code I can't trace back to someone liable. Not that I'd catch everything, and not that I have done this for mods that I have come to...

It is about to get smaller if FTB pulls him.

Aside, why is Greg mad at Immibis? Besides being contentious, Greg says he "always responds to attacks" which is why Immibis is on the pumpkin of shame list. What did immibis code?

Then why did my client refuse to start? Why didn't Greg just halt mDiyo's startup?

No. Bombs are not security measures. They destroy things. Why should I trust Greg? Do you honestly think he won't do this again?

It hasn't been removed yet. The trigger is what's there. But the bigger problem is that even writing that code and deploying it is a huge breach of trust between greg and his users. We've all known Greg is a character. He pushes other people around and generally has no whats to give. We've...

The truly crazy part about this whole debate is that it was touched off because mDiyo added some recipes to make sure that 1 wood = 4 planks.. The GT community totally blows up because they view this as somehow "exploiting" GT. It's wild because Greg goes this to other mods far more invasively...

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Derp on you for not building reactors, I guess. It is almost like someone has an agenda which involves interpreting the situation in a wildly different way.

It's actually a felony to do this in the US, btw. The law is sorta absurd, but the way it's worded then deliberately sabotaging a product or crashing someone else's product can get you thrown in jail. Quite literally, people have killed themselves rather than face the penalty for doing less...

Are you saying by standing around repeatedly clicking I can get metals and occasionally the tool breaks and I need to do something slightly different before resuming clicking? As opposed to... say... branch mining? Honestly. Most of the objections you and Greg raise are thematic. Like, Greg...

You can already automate it via a variety of mods, making it a worse Lilypad of Fertility or xysoil stack. So what? Like wheat wasn't already easy to rapidly farm via forestry farms or MFR farms.

I like challenges. I just like real, sincere, rewarding challenges. And I tend to make these myself. Some aspects of what greg does are enjoyable to me, but many times I feel like I'm required to do a bunch of things I have no interest in to progress to the parts that I do have interest in. Many...

I love how the principle argument for gregtech is that detractors either do not understand new features, or are just "bad players" who are "not careful." The idea that the design itself might not be very strong or that there are multiple minecraft playstyles isn't even considered.

Just pointing out that it doesn't exist as a standalone thing.

Indeed. This is where I sort of side with Greg. Short of exploding bees or lame "I lost the debate but I can still torture you, Immibis, because it's important to my fragile ego that I feel like I won" gestures like the Pumpkin of Shame, modders should not really get to feel protective of their...