What's the point of RotaryCraft?

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Moasseman

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I said *on demand* smelting. That means neither the machine nor the engine running it, if any, can have a significant warmup period. IC2's induction furnace has one, but only for the initial setup, and you can keep it hot for a very small amount of power while it's not smelting anything. For the same reason, I'm running my grinder with a magnetostatic engine instead of a microturbine even though bringing it to the best torque/speed ratio is a little more expensive.

Besides, the friction heater is loud and dangerous. Not something I'd keep anywhere near my ME network, or the place I'm working.
Friction heater warms up way faster than Ind. furnace, and is dangerous only if you don't know how to use it =)
 

trajing

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So, Pitchblende.

In my last world I couldn't move for the bloody stuff. Now I'm looking for a supply to get a bit of a fission reactor going and I can't see any of it.

Is it restricted by biome or something?
Some of the highlands biomes work for Pitchblende spawning.
 
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Ieldra

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Friction heater warms up way faster than Ind. furnace, and is dangerous only if you don't know how to use it =)
The question is, can you keep it warmed up at a small energy cost while it's not doing anything like you can do with the induction furnace? With the induction furnace, the warm-up period is a non-issue if you generate even a small amount of power constantly.
 

Moasseman

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The question is, can you keep it warmed up at a small energy cost while it's not doing anything like you can do with the induction furnace? With the induction furnace, the warm-up period is a non-issue if you generate even a small amount of power constantly.
I dunno, my friction heater is usually on all the time.
 

Ieldra

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Who cares about power conservation when you have ReC?
ReactorCraft reactors are not yet built in my current game. Also, I care as long as power isn't 100% renewable, as a matter of principle, and I dislike the noise anyway.
 

Ieldra

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Or turn the master volume off.

I watch youtube videos while I minecraft. You can keep your machine noises and zombie groans. :p
As a rule, I like machines that aren't silent. I like the hum of my magnetostatic engines, and oddly enough, I don't even mind the gas turbine since it's not constantly running. Some noises are just annoying though, and the friction heater is right there with the zombie groans and the cow and sheep noises.

It's just too bad that Mekanism machines are limited to 8 upgrades, else they would be prime candidates for standard tasks like pulverizing and smelting. I use the RoC grinder for some tasks - that's instant pulverizing as I like it - but too many recipes aren't available for it. I can't even pulverize nether quartz (though certus quartz works, oddly enough).
 

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Reika's website says it spawns only in the End, in mushroom islands and in the Twilight Forest, between levels 8 and 24 in the latter two. I haven't mined for it yet in my new world, but in the previous one I found more than enough in the Twilight Forest. Also, isn't IC2 uranium a working substitute? I don't know which kind of reactor you want to run, but the ones that use TRISO fuel pellets won't need pitchblende. Don't know about the others.
As of v16 or so, it also spawns in Ocean, River, and Rainbow Forest biomes.



Besides, the friction heater is loud and dangerous. Not something I'd keep anywhere near my ME network, or the place I'm working.
A lava block is not going to harm your ME system, and the melting can also be disabled in the config.


I can't even pulverize nether quartz (though certus quartz works, oddly enough).
ElectriCraft adds exactly that recipe, but AE cannot take the EC quartz dust in its recipes.
 
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Ieldra

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ElectriCraft adds exactly that recipe, but AE cannot take the EC quartz dust in its recipes.
Found it, and you can unify RoC nether quartz dust into the AE version. Why can't AE use the original? BTW, what I would like to do is switch most of my TE pulverizing to the RoC grinder. Any chance that might become possible?
 

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Found it, and you can unify RoC nether quartz dust into the AE version. Why can't AE use the original? BTW, what I would like to do is switch most of my TE pulverizing to the RoC grinder. Any chance that might become possible?

You'll lose the bonus byproducts. Although I guess that's not so important now you can use electricraft as a platinum source so pulverizing ferrous isn't the only way to get it.

I'd hang about until you can power the extractor though.
 

Ieldra

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You'll lose the bonus byproducts. Although I guess that's not so important now you can use electricraft as a platinum source so pulverizing ferrous isn't the only way to get it.

I'd hang about until you can power the extractor though.
I am running an extractor. Two, soon, but I get your point, and I actually think about these things: Redstone ore can be pulverized to get Cinnabar as a 25% byproduct, which can be smelted with ferrous ore in the induction smelter and you'll get 3 ferrous/nickel ingots and a platinum/shiny ingot with 100%. If you've got a safari net with a Blizz, you can also make TE cinnabar by infusing Thaumcraft cinnabar ore with cryotheum. And lastly, Magical Crops has platinum seeds and the "Valuable" bee species makes platinum combs.

@Reika:
May I ask what was changed in v24 of RotaryCraft/ReactorCraft/ElectriCraft?
 

JusticeOF666

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Hallo everyone ,

first of all :

1. English is not my native language
2. I want to share my opinion , not offend persons or creations
3. This is my opinion , this is not objective because I really like realistic mods, @Reika and @Calclavia inspired me and now I'm making mods myself.
4. This is about the most up to date version

I read trough all the pages , and I would like to give my opinion on some of the first things that where said.

I think RotaryCraft ( and reactorcraft and electricraft atc ) provide a unique gameplay experience.
This means that I don't think it should be compared with for example TE or IC .
The progression line is too damn long and it adds so many things to do it CAN NOT be balanced the same way as those other mods.
Balance is one of the most said words in this topic so let me explain why I think this is.

People see the items and machines and they read the wiki and some think: OMFG 5.1x ore doubling = OP ,this is so unbalanced.
You have to play with a mod to know its balance , I spoke to some mod devs working on modX a few days ago about balance ,
I apparently played longer with the mod then they did.
I remember Reika saying in a YT vid "ohhh I love this so much , being able to become so powerful ".
Depending on how long you play on a world , this mod is extremely worth while playing,fun and has a great progression line.

That's what a game is about " Fun/enjoy " and in modded minecraft mods decide a huge part of that.
Do mods have to play well together ? For me , yes , RoC does let me make a pack where mods play nice together.
When people just want "all the mods " and you start exploiting , this progress line blurs and ruins it for me.


My conclusion and opinion is : This is a great (but) unique mod that gives player the option to go to the limits and
get the satisfaction where I want to play MC for.

This post did not get as clear as I would like to but you'll live.
 

TomeWyrm

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Just different byproducts. As far as I know, the only useful ones from TE are Cinnabar and the induction smelter's slag. There's nearly always an ore that I'm never going to use in mass quantities that I can utilize as a slag farm (It's been Lead since I said bye-bye to Factorization... basically nothing uses the stuff, except for TE's power systems; directly or via hardened glass. As for cinnabar... woo platinum? I've got Electricraft, or something else that adds platinum... and doesn't something produce platinum as a byproduct via grinder or extractor in Rotarycraft?
 

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Just different byproducts. As far as I know, the only useful ones from TE are Cinnabar and the induction smelter's slag. There's nearly always an ore that I'm never going to use in mass quantities that I can utilize as a slag farm (It's been Lead since I said bye-bye to Factorization... basically nothing uses the stuff, except for TE's power systems; directly or via hardened glass. As for cinnabar... woo platinum? I've got Electricraft, or something else that adds platinum... and doesn't something produce platinum as a byproduct via grinder or extractor in Rotarycraft?
Iridium and Nickel do.
 

Ieldra

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Hmm....out of curiosity I was trying to make steel with the pulse jet furnace as the description says it can. NEI tells me the recipe uses iron ingots and turns them 1:1 into steel, but when I put them into the furnace nothing happens. I've been making blast glass, so the furnace is powered, fueled and cooled correctly. I've tried to change the speed/torque and increase overall power, but nothing made a difference. What am I doing wrong?

BTW, the description says the pulse jet furnace makes steel more efficiently, but unless it makes two steel of one iron I can't see it, given the power requirements. The original blast furnace is very fast and doesn't use up a lot of the additives.