Werewolves the matrix. [Game Thread][Championship Practice]

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VikeStep

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Leth is netural to me... he isn't standing out at all just yet. Fred is definitely trying to stir things up but i do think he is town same with pyure.
I am curious why you think The J is town even tho he hasn't said anything yet as far as i can see.

yes i am coasting...nothing is standing out to me at all... last game i had you wrong. i'm not sure at all this time.
The_j is my n0 peek. If I am the cop, then I was told that the_j is town.
 
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Robijnvogel

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I won't be back here for at least five hours either. Unless bible studies get really boring and I get distracted.

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Pyure

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I'm keenly aware that I'm coasting a bit today. Not intentional nor strategic. Should be able to get a grip on the doings of the day in a few hours.

I may be able to answer direct inquiries in the meantime (at work currently)
 
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I'm starting to lean towards Pyure as Townie primarily because the only way to really confirm a cop is to lynch his n0 peep. Which is making Vike a bit scummy because no one really wants to lose a towny AND a mafioso can claim cop to protect another mafioso as his "claim".

But that's my two cents. I still think Fred is scummy because of his behavior, not because of bandwagoning.

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frederikam

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I'm starting to lean towards Pyure as Townie primarily because the only way to really confirm a cop is to lynch his n0 peep. Which is making Vike a bit scummy because no one really wants to lose a towny AND a mafioso can claim cop to protect another mafioso as his "claim".

But that's my two cents. I still think Fred is scummy because of his behavior, not because of bandwagoning.

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Wait how would bandwagoning make me seem scummy? I have yet to vote someone with existing votes. If anything, the sudden bandwagon should make me seem a little less of a scum, considering how quickly it developed.

Anyways, in the interest of preserving myself, ##vote Lethosos.

I'm not leaning scum very hard on anyone yet (Leth included). I would love to hear more opinions on or from Leth. A CFD might also come in handy.
 

Pyure

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Leth, my understanding from Zexy's tutelage is that #townvike can survive you lynching his n0 #peekwolf because all he's doing is hypothetcally protecting the real cop. I'm not sure you gain a whole lot from that angle.

I appear to be throwing up problems w/o solutions.
 
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RealKC

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Day hasn't ended yet? Oh, that's so good. I'm sorry that I was inactive.

When I saw Fred's posts, they looked pretty agressive, but I don't see a reason for a wolf being so agressive on D1. Don't know about him.
And that's what I could get of this D1 :(. I'm not that good on reads.
I'll ##vote fowl as I don't want to get on any of the bandwagons which may or may not be lead by wolfs.
 

goreae

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I am slowly losing hope in this game if not for this community in general.

At Mafia Universe, activity levels are quite different. I tend to be more passive there, but everything is relative. I don't think I can be passive in a community like this, because there always seems to be a rather passive town. This is the ideal town in the perspective of a wolf. This setup was shaped after MU and the championships. Extreme levels of activity should be expected, but this isn't the case here. Think more than 1000 posts instead of 100 on D1.

The wolves have very little interest in seeming aggressive. Aggression isn't subtle here. The wolves want to stay low profile, and generally do not need to push villagers. They merely need to influence the lynch in their favour. VikeStep should know that I am NOT aggressive as a wolf.
Okay, chill. FTB werewolf and MU mafia are two entirely different playstyles. MU is a lot more serious and competitive, and people are compelled to be incredibly active. Comparing us to them is like comparing a group of friends playing TF2 to a competitive TF2 team. Entirely different. We just play for fun. This isn't most peoples' priority, even in their recreational sector. So activity will likely be lower than it is on MU. Saying the community is bad because of that difference in playstyle is just ludicrous.
Oh it's the "I'm a villager" thing again.
I was about to head to class and I wanted to make a post but had next to nothing to say so I said anything I could. Plus, consider this: everybody in this game is either a wolf or they have some sort of power role. The overwhelming majority of other players are vanillagers. So wolves are obviously going to claim vanillager as the obvious cover, and power roles are also going to claim vanillager to protect themselves from wolf attacks. So basically ask anyone here what their role is, more likely than not they'll say they're a vanillager regardless of their actual role.
That vote looked so joke it is actually suspicious that YOU want to push robij for something like that...
It didn't look like a joke to me. I say this because it's not the first time he's done that. It looked entirely serious to me as essentially an antismite nobody vote. You're new here, but we've basically outlawed nobody votes as they detract from the game, turning D1 into basically a rollcall with a wolfkill at the end. There was nothing to discuss because everyone did the same thing. Voting for himself is the equivalent of a nobody vote. Oh and by the way, he confirmed this assumption later on:
To be honest, my self-vote is never meant to stay, but it does make the people seconding it look a little bit suspicious, I guess?

Actually, I'll vote Letho, because of Pyure's call on him in #30. I don't think that's a killing vote, right?
EDIT: And before I forget to put this down to writing, I have a gut feeling that SE37 is in the mob. Assuming
@dylanpiera, shouldn't you call out to all people who haven't responded to this thread yet? If you're not technically allowed to, can one of us players do that?
Here he says it was temporary, but basically serious.

And to respond to robin there, I wasn't seconding it. That would imply that I was agreeing with you. But I wasn't, I was just suspicious of your non-vote.
Hmmm... need to rethink Fred based on this. What I do know is that these players are my villa core:

Zexy, Pyure, the_j, and Shazam08. I'll be very open to listen to these players. Will still listen to others, but will believe them more.
This isn't a terrible lineup. Just note that the first three were mafia in the previous attempt along with me. That said it's rather unlikely they'd be chosen as maf again, but still it's just as likely that any other specific person gets maf as well.


I think I'll ##Vote fred. He reminds me of myself and pyure as wolves. Active, agressive. You get more village reads that way.
 

frederikam

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Okay, chill. FTB werewolf and MU mafia are two entirely different playstyles. MU is a lot more serious and competitive, and people are compelled to be incredibly active. Comparing us to them is like comparing a group of friends playing TF2 to a competitive TF2 team. Entirely different. We just play for fun. This isn't most peoples' priority, even in their recreational sector. So activity will likely be lower than it is on MU. Saying the community is bad because of that difference in playstyle is just ludicrous.
You don't get my point.

I am seen as rather passive in MU games. It's the exact opposite here, which Vike previously read me as scum for.

I wasn't being very descriptive about what made me frustrated about this community. The reason I am concerned is that it seems that each game here I seem to be lynched on D1 for being more active than most. This happened during Seconded Beta. This is also about to happen this game as well. At least you will prove my point once you do lynch me, hopefully stopping this from happening next game if I rand as townie.
 
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frederikam

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You get more village reads that way.
Is it possible that that players are generally more active when they are townies? That's how my meta goes anyways. When was the last time you played with me while I was a wolf? Back in 2013. Vike should be able to relate to the Transformers and Disney Princesses games on MU where I was townie and scum respectively. I believe I must have been more active in the former.
 
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I don't understand your question. Please elaborate?

I mean you keep accusing people but don't vote them when doing that.

As in, doing the same thing as before but without the voting so that you won't be called out for it.

Well first of all Vike voted for Fred. I think at this point Vike isn't really making a lot of sense with that vote. Imo what fred was doing is fine and helps generate discussion. Plus his statement regarding Erin looking towny after him voting for Fred is just nonsensical. As you've said it could be the other way around (that's how I see it).

Thanks for the explanation! tbh I only wanted that cleared that's why I called you out to get the explanation I wanted :)

Can someone tell me wth an n0 peek is?

in this game, the cop is given a random town check on someone when the game starts

if I am that cop, that random townie is Vike

which is why I trust him so much

Why I slightly scumread SE37? Because he's the second one to commit a "Seer hunt clear". I don't have a lot of experience with this, but I believe the first one doing that, Vikestep, would be an actual cop. I estimate the chance for the second one being a towny trying to cover for the one he thinks is an actual cop, would be lower than the chance that the second one, SE37, is a wolf trying to give the cop and the other townies a false sense of security/coverage. This is why I have a slight suspicion of SE37 which is just not enough to vote for him yet.

SHC is a towny thing to do, especially from SE37 who has played in MU.

Anyone else who claimed a peek that looks towny/scummy to you?

Leth is netural to me... he isn't standing out at all just yet. Fred is definitely trying to stir things up but i do think he is town same with pyure.

I am curious why you think The J is town even tho he hasn't said anything yet as far as i can see.


yes i am coasting...nothing is standing out to me at all... last game i had you wrong. i'm not sure at all this time.

You are neutral if not worse yourself... wolves don't like to stand out.

I am also curious because I don't really like The J that much but I have trust in Vike. He knows The J while I don't, as well.


ok, just don't expect us not to wolfread you when doing that...

The_j is my n0 peek. If I am the cop, then I was told that the_j is town.

oh... then I can't be sure over The J, sorry :(

I'm starting to lean towards Pyure as Townie primarily because the only way to really confirm a cop is to lynch his n0 peep. Which is making Vike a bit scummy because no one really wants to lose a towny AND a mafioso can claim cop to protect another mafioso as his "claim".


But that's my two cents. I still think Fred is scummy because of his behavior, not because of bandwagoning.


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That's a read most of us can develop much more easily, so it's not TOO towny for you to make it this late, sorry.

And NO. Confirm if a cop is clear by lynching their n0? If they are clear, then you got a mislynch for little reason. Because the mislynch still doesn't confirm it...


Doesn't wagoning make you less certain that he's a wolf? Wagons piling up quickly tend to be on townies...


Next up, @goreae; I see you are quite informed over how things work in MU. You raise up some good points, I don’t particularly love the Fred vote but it feels like you have your reasons.

I am seen as rather passive in MU games. It's the exact opposite here, which Vike previously read me as scum for.


I wasn't being very descriptive about what made me frustrated about this community. The reason I am concerned is that it seems that each game here I seem to be lynched on D1 for being more active than most. This happened during Seconded Beta. This is also about to happen this game as well. At least you will prove my point once you do lynch me, hopefully stopping this from happening next game if I rand as townie.

The first point makes sense. The second doesn't. I can relate since our communities are similar (even the MU people acknowledged as much and brought us together for Wild West). I am very active at home and passive in MU. Yet I don't ever get lynched d1 for that. Not that any other active person does...

Still sticking on Leth. Fred looks towny enough, Leth is just skating by...
 

Pyure

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I'm going through the days doings. Will have more in a bit.
In the meantime, in the spirit of transcendence, if I'm cop, my n0 town is Victini.
 

dylanpiera

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I'm going through the days doings. Will have more in a bit.
In the meantime, in the spirit of transcendence, if I'm cop, my n0 town is Victini.
Thanks for posting. I forgot

The day has ended. Expect a phase update soonish
 

Pyure

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Day is ending? Shit. Dylan can I vote ##vikestep even though day is ended.

edit: ok good, this isn't my fault, dylan called the day almost 10 minutes early according to googles + 1 hour he mentioned.
 

dylanpiera

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Day 1 Recap.
  • Frederikham got lynched. He was a Vanilla Townie
  • @RealKC @trajing @the_j485 You guys have yet to respond to thread. If you do not you will all be Modkilled after N1
It is now N1. There is no lynch at night time. You can still talk.


edit: @Pyure day normally ended 2 hours ago.