Werewolves the matrix. [Game Thread][Championship Practice]

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VikeStep

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Does anyone think those in my top town reads are scum? If so, then tell me, otherwise I don't see what the problem is and why you are voting me. Those are my legitimate reads, it just happens to have a lot of power players in it.
 
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Pyure

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Well I think shaz dropped the hammer.

This, is a very weird question. N0 scans don't change.

Also, vike if I'm not mistaken you have put your hypothetical cop scans into your town reads, right?
Goodness gracious, how odd.

Wait, I lied about mine. Fuck. That's pretty scummy and totally against all proper convention.
 

erindalc

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Goodness gracious, how odd.

Wait, I lied about mine. Fuck. That's pretty scummy and totally against all proper convention.
The fact that you admitted it makes it a little better...not taking my vote off you though.
 

Pyure

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OK I'm worried some people are happy to bask in the glow of my overwhelming compelling arguments against Vikestep and his cohort but they're not willing to take that last, final, terrifying step.

I did some legwork for you. Here's some light reading.

It turns out, Vike's been reading from the grand MafiaScum handbook. There's actually 15 points; I deleted a couple to be nice since they more or less didn't apply as well. But, well, he absolutely machineguns the other 12 into a bloody mess.

Pick your favorites! Which one do you think applies the most? How hilariously easy is this lynch? PS: My favorites are probably 1 and 4 below. But really they're all pretty great.
  1. Do not call the strongest members of the town scum, rather pick on weaker but more neutral figures. If you pick on people that are too easy, you will eventually run out of valid scumreads, and if you only pick on the strongest members of the town, it will likely turn on you. Attack the people that can't defend themselves. Newbies are a good choice.
  2. Early on, post a lot, and frequently. Most people will subconsciously treat active players as town. Almost nobody will suspect you for this on its own.
  3. Call out lurkers. They are easy to lynch, but don't try to lynch them until later in the game. Their wagon will provide good escape later if you need it. Be sure to make this a long-term campaign. If you notice the flow go against your allies or your scum-calls begin to push the lurkers.
  4. Defend the strongest players of the town. Pick one in particular to defend excessively. If you die, this will tie you to them and allow your team to lynch them quickly. As a note, generally, if you build a meta for defending people you will do well in all your games.
  5. For lynch on the first day, push the second or third most popular lynch. Do not try to make your wagon fail, but hope that it does. After that, continue to push reads that are less likely to be lynched. If one of your reads becomes a major lynch though, lynch them. Do not back down.
  6. If you notice someone acting scummy, and no one else has yet picked up on it, take the opportunity. If you lynch an unexpected person the next day reverts to earlier lynch prospects much of the time. Essentially the town loses a day.
  7. Kill the stronger members of the town at night. Nobody analyses night kills anymore, and if they do just bury them under a mountain of WIFOM logic. It actually works. (????I'm still alive, yay)
  8. Taper off your posting as you go. Do not suddenly disappear, just gradually reduce your rate of posting. Try to keep large but infrequent posts at first, but later shorter posts will do. You want to appear like you are losing interest in the game. You also want to have an excuse for dodging the nightkills. Living too long being too town will be problematic.
  9. Do not fear people who are getting things right. Even if they are right about everything, there will be idiots that refuse to believe well reasoned and logical cases. Don't mistake being caught for being lynched. Stay calm, and it is critical that you do not suddenly change your reads. Don't underestimate the ability of a town to eat itself, or to change off of a correct wagon at the last second. Often you can survive a day or two after you should if you play calmly.
  10. Claim vanilla. Do not try to gambit. Conservative is the best way to play scum. If you claim earlier than you need to, you will likely be believed in today's meta. Of course, extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, and in some cases claiming a power role may allow you to live longer than you deserve. But keep in mind 11) you are not always in as bad a position as you think.
  11. Attack players that do not know how to defend themselves properly. Start with a case that is factual, but weak. When the player overreacts and digs themselves deeper and deeper, you will have a good wagon to sit on. If it sees lynch, you have lynched someone that everyone agrees deserved it, and if it doesn't you have a plausible distraction from the main lynches.
  12. Don't underestimate the power of subtle praise. "That's a great point" and "I didn't notice that" or even "I'm sheeping X, who is obv-town" helps building false confidence in townies. This will make the townie think you are town, and if they turn out to be wrong they get the blame and their confidence is shaken. It is generally good to leave the responsibility for the town's lynches on the town.
 

VikeStep

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Dance, monkey.

Oh, and talk to me about how much I must look like scum now plz.
But you aren't, I peeked you town n1. I just want you to stop tunnelling me. You keep saying I am scummy for trusting power players, but you won't say that my reads are wrong.
 

erindalc

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This looks like an elaborate display of fighting between to(*two) mafia members so one of them gains the trust of the village...

Edit: Posted before I finished typing
 

Pyure

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erindalc is my n8 town peek. Or something.

I don't think I'm doing that right.

Somebody, anybody, help me drop this pinnacle of scum please. He said tunnel at me. I have no idea what that means but it sounds shady.

I'm going to bed, I'll accept your gratitude in the morning.
 

Robijnvogel

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With only a quarter to go, I will not take any chances and share my real n0 and n2 peeks now. They were Pyure town and SE scum. Goodbye my fellow townies, it's been nice living here.

I will still edit my previous post, so that text is bold.

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Robijnvogel

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@dylanpiera
I was on mobile data and Tapatalk didn't seem to have any layout options, so bolding my vote in the original post was not a real option, sorry.
I will think of a way to get around that next time. :)
 

VikeStep

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With only a quarter to go, I will not take any chances and share my real n0 and n2 peeks now. They were Pyure town and SE scum. Goodbye my fellow townies, it's been nice living here.

I will still edit my previous post, so that text is bold.

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Guys, one does not simply leave a peek like this. Why isn't he pushing SE?

Lynch this mafia.