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meh, I just like to keep conversations on track, without censoring discussion.
Its a good discussion, its just cluttering up this thread and needs it own thread.
I always though that alchemy was the point where magic and sciance meet. Of coarse they were clueless about both at the time.
I don't know when you are, but I'm in February 2015... are you in July 2014? Can you tell past me that the answer to problem 24 is "C"?You arn't far off.
e=MC^2
E=energy=magic
M=matter=common sciance
C=Speed of light=An absolute limit that can not be crossed
So Magic=science times greater than the speed of light.
Or on other words. Magic = science fiction
Magic is no different than science fiction.
Magic wands=phasers
There is an anime called Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha they have scify worlds where they swore off normal science a long time ago do to the colateral damage of physical weapons. (Nukes)
They have freeking AI driven magic staffs and interdimentional spaceships.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
Magic is science we have yet to understand.
We all know what a magnet is, but if you take one to the untouched tribes living in the Amazon- its a magic rock that controls metal.
Ah but do you truly understand how it works? It's one thing to understand it's effects but another how it works.
No one has a complete understanding of any of the fundamental forces. Including magnetism.
So in actuality magnets are magic to everybody.
I thought it had more to do with old theories that has since bin proven myths and the insurance companies to paranoid to allow airlines to take chances.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
Unlike tweezers, nail files and soap- mobile phones don't pose any real danger. Otherwise we wouldn't be allowed to take them on.
We should turn them off however- because they cause interference with the pilot's radio [which is mildly annoying]- if you've had an incoming text/call whilst stood next to a speaker/soundsystem you'll know exactly what I mean.
(they don't interfere with the instruments/safe running of the aircraft)
We should turn them off however- because they cause interference with the pilot's radio [which is mildly annoying]- if you've had an incoming text/call whilst stood next to a speaker/soundsystem you'll know exactly what I mean.
(they don't interfere with the instruments/safe running of the aircraft)
July 11th, last year. That post was from July 11th 2014.
But yeah, if we're going with "real world" examples of "magic", I still prefer thaumaturgy to alchemy, even if alchemy often had real results. It was nascent pharmaceutical treatment. A quest for the philosophers stone, with useful things found along the way.
Alchemy was very much rote and formula; but it involved many, MANY experiments along the way. Thaumaturgy was/is the same deal, just more mystical.
Alchemy is very much the place where magic and science met half way; thaumaturgy is working miracles. Miracles are hard to shape and not show a effect.
Hence, Thauamturgy was where science and showmanship met half way, even if real useful things happened, and real thaumaturgists existed, working real miracles... Lots of impressive fakes would drown them out.
I'm the opposite, I prefer alchemy to thaumaturgy. It was magic, but with potential real-world applications, it wasn't just for impressing kings and nobility and was more likely to actually work. While it was still deeply entrenched in mysticism, alchemy sought to understand how the "magic" of the world works and how one could apply it toward useful ends. I mean, if there is actual magic in a setting, how would people be able to best understand it? Would you be more likely to truly understand the magic by mysticism and what amounts to hand-waiving, or through experimentation and observation? The method of science is mankind's most powerful tool for a reason.
I prefer all the magic, it's all neat! Especially the spiritualism stuff that Native American spiritualists/shamans did way back when. Just seeing what people do with magic and how they intemperate it is fun!
I personally like little fantastical gizmos and gadgets over full fledged magic systems, things like the enderpearl teleportation mechanic
Infrastructure? What a part of magic didn't you get.
With all the magic mods you have to follow the tech tree but there is no need to keep setups or any facilities because there is always a way to do it 100% more efficiently down the line.
That's called progression. It's a thing that exists. Admittedly there are only a few tech mods that actually do that. Gregtech (don't hurt me), Metallurgy and... that might be it...
OMG magic mods are more teckish than tech mods. Hahaha.
Thats nothing but bias on your part. Other than GT and Reika's mods, tech is always the easy route.