Rainbow Forest in FTB Monster is like hitting the jackpot

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Succubism

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I like it the way it is. Just fine.
But sooner or later, there's always a thread to jump on the nerfwagon.

I'm waiting for it to happen to KAMI once it gets off the ground.
 
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Silent-Hunter

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Just because something is nerfed doesn't mean one cannot re-enable it. On my server, I have enabled everything. ::D
 

kaovalin

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So rainbow trees terrible but no one points out that sheep + pulverizer + rancher = all dyes (lapis included) infinitely. Didnt scour this thread but...
 

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Nerfs are not necessarily restricted to disabling stuff. People have long demanded I nerf a bunch of things in my mods - not provide a config, but make that the de facto way they work.

Pfft. People asking for a nerf w/o a config are bothersome. I prefer configs for all the things just because two different modpacks usually need two different forms of balance.
 

Reika

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A lot of those people should try making a mod sometime.
They tend to go into plugins instead:

https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disable-item-creation-obtainment-plugin.83958/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/req-plugin-to-remove-or-reduce-diamond-ores.101955/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/delete-all-diamond-ores.116349/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/no-diamonds-in-world-plugin.106057/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/req-disable-diamonds-in-world.58705/
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/anti-rs/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/request-a-plugin-that-blocks-redstone-circuits.30146/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-remove-armor-if-player-wears-armor.43185/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/help-how-do-i-disable-armor-protection-fx.224418/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/p...-player-unable-to-remove-a-armour-kit.168040/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/simple-disable-armor-slot-changing-on-user-end.112830/
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/changedamage/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-disable-blocking-with-a-sword.148007/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-remove-x-attack-damage-from-sword.180642/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/plugin-for-disabling-bow-and-arrow.52549/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/plugin-that-disables-certain-mob-drops.159262/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disabling-arrows-and-potions.120058/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disable-ii-potions.163067/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/strength-potion-nerf-plugin.193373/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disable-potions-and-also-potentially-enchantments.68261/
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/anti-enchant/
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/antifarm/
http://www.curse.com/bukkit-plugins/minecraft/disable-mobs-farming
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disable-lava-turning-into-obsidian.53483/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/plugin-search-nerf-disable-cobblestone-generating-farms.69744/
http://www.curse.com/bukkit-plugins/minecraft/pwnplantgrowth
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/no-xp-plugin-disable-vanilla-xp-earning.194674/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-remove-mobs-and-animals-from-multiworld.173661/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/i-want-plugin-for-disable-health-regen-with-food.147262/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disable-health-regen-help.214676/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/no-health-regeneration-when-your-food-meter-is-full.135177/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/small-plugin-to-disable-villager-trade-in-1-3-1.90058/


Trust me, there is nothing in the game that these people do not find overpowered.
 
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kaovalin

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They tend to go into plugins instead:

https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disable-item-creation-obtainment-plugin.83958/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/req-plugin-to-remove-or-reduce-diamond-ores.101955/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/delete-all-diamond-ores.116349/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/no-diamonds-in-world-plugin.106057/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/req-disable-diamonds-in-world.58705/
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/anti-rs/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/request-a-plugin-that-blocks-redstone-circuits.30146/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-remove-armor-if-player-wears-armor.43185/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/help-how-do-i-disable-armor-protection-fx.224418/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/p...-player-unable-to-remove-a-armour-kit.168040/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/simple-disable-armor-slot-changing-on-user-end.112830/
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/changedamage/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-disable-blocking-with-a-sword.148007/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-remove-x-attack-damage-from-sword.180642/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/plugin-for-disabling-bow-and-arrow.52549/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/plugin-that-disables-certain-mob-drops.159262/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disabling-arrows-and-potions.120058/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disable-ii-potions.163067/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/strength-potion-nerf-plugin.193373/
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/disable-potions-and-also-potentially-enchantments.68261/
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/anti-enchant/
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/antifarm/
http://www.curse.com/bukkit-plugins/minecraft/disable-mobs-farming


Trust me, there is nothing in the game that these people do not find overpowered.

That list is both hillarious and sad
 

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gods...

I thought I had a heavy nerf hand...
You know how I am often taking about "unplayable means fun" types who force their entire server to adhere to the admin's sadistic idea of fun? These are the kind of people I mean. And these plugins are popular. I have been banned from many servers for violating these sorts of "no farming/no iron/no whatever" rules, too.
 
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kaovalin

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You know how I am often taking about "unplayable means fun" types who force their entire server to adhere to the admin's sadistic idea of fun? These are the kind of people I mean. And these plugins are popular. I have been banned from many servers for violating these sorts of "no farming/no iron/no whatever" rules, too.

"No farming!" yet they inexplicably have forestry, buildcraft, and MFR?
 

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"No farming!" yet they inexplicably have forestry, buildcraft, and MFR?
Those plugins tend to be more popular on vanilla servers, but there are a lot of servers that add mods then disable 95% of them.

Also, I found more plugins, and added them to that list. Among them are "never regen health ever" plugins and plugins to disable plant (crop, sapling, etc) growth.
 
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Honestly? Who would join such a server if they do not have the same idea of gameplay?

For most of those the "my way is right, everyone should have to do it this way" mentality is a non issue. They tell you exactly what to expect on their server and everyone joining agrees to that playstyle by joining. I have no problem with those as they tend to not complain about things.
The problem are Server Admins which advertise their server with running Monster for example and do not mention what they have disabled or changed and introduce rules after the server started without consulting their community. Or even worse hide certain blocks/machines/items behind a donator fee or even monthly subsciption.
 
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The problem are Server Admins which advertise their server with running Monster for example and do not mention what they have disabled or changed and introduce rules after the server started without consulting their community. Or even worse hide certain blocks/machines/items behind a donator fee or even monthly subsciption.

First thing I do when I join a server is to ask so many questions:

Limited Map?
Pvp on/off?
Server difficulty setting?
Banned items?
Griefing policy?
Website?

Then I go visit the website and read up on what's what, then at that point you tend to find out certain stuff maybe donator only. I also look at the donator packages as I refuse to play on any server showing a "pay to win" donator policy. Don't get me wrong I do and have donated to servers in the past but that's because I wanted to, not to buy things to play with.

Hence to say I tend to only go on open servers now if I want a quick blast at a different mod pack say, just as a taster.

I like "hard mode" but don't confuse hard with tedious (watching Greg?), mobs on hard is a must for me because anything lower you may as well play with no mobs (which is silly and have come across servers with mobs turned off o_O).

I would play Blood N Bones more often but not being able to see ANYTHING at night makes it pointless (or being able to sleep), it was a great idea and was looking forward to streaming BnB but having to cut out every night is something I can do with out.
 

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TiCo, even without living in a place where lapis grows on trees, is overpowered. I still enjoy it, though, and play with it more often than I don't.
 

JoeDolca

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TiCo, even without living in a place where lapis grows on trees, is overpowered. I still enjoy it, though, and play with it more often than I don't.
Well, TiCo is how I determine what modpack I play. Does it have? Yes? Good. No? Get outta here.

You can already tell I have never played with GT and probably never will...
 

DanteGalileo

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It depends what mods I'm using. If I am playing Railcraft, for example, I won't use TiCo because why work towards a tunnel borer when I can have a hammer on day two?

To each his own, though.
 

Lathanael

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TiC is broken in so many aspects(imo) that i even do not know where to start. The biggest "problem" for me though is that nearly everyone seems to use it a standard to compare other mods/mod tools to. Which is not a good thing imo

But as @DanteGalileo said: To each their own ;)
 
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You know how I am often taking about "unplayable means fun" types who force their entire server to adhere to the admin's sadistic idea of fun? These are the kind of people I mean. And these plugins are popular. I have been banned from many servers for violating these sorts of "no farming/no iron/no whatever" rules, too.

So if i run a server the way i want, its not ok, but mod devs are supposed to be able to make a mod however they want?

think about that for a second. If someone comes here and says "I dont like this mod because xyz" they get attacked and told 'the mod dev can do what he wants, its HIS server, if you dont like it, dont use it."

Which is totally true. people can voice their opinions though, and a smart developer should listen. If you want people to play it, listen to feedback, as long as it is presented in a polite way of course. If you dont care, and just want to stick to your vision, thats fine too.

Now tell me why this make sense, but apparently you can criticize someone like me FOR PAYING FOR MY OWN SERVER and doing WHAT I WANT WITH IT?

The whole thing is silly anyway, did you read those threads? I clicked the one that asked about removing armor protection. The guy wants to remove the vanilla values so he can set his own. He might even want to BUFF it, and not nerf armor at all.

But from the post title, it sounds like he wants to make armor offer zero protection.

I clicked another one, removing enchantments. One guy said he wanted to remove protection IV, but keep lower level protection enchantments.

What happens is if someone comes here and says they would like to amke the game harder, people often say that the game was not MEANT to be hard. "Vanilla is easy too, its how the agme is, its not supposed to be a combat game"

And in the same breath, people will say that minecraft is a sandbox and we can all play the game how we want.

But if someone wants a plugin to remove Protection 4 to make combat a teeny tiny bit mroe challenging, they're a sadist.