All I'm saying is that IC2 is definitely less integrated into the DW20 pack than other packs maintained. Most every other mod works with a unified power system and has superior automation mechanics.
Even barring the question why this matters, it's not true. I wish you'd stop putting words in my mouth. IC2 is great, and in Mindcrack with Advanced Machines & Gregtech I think you get something really amazing. Something I'm considering integrating into a fork of DW20 just to balance it out a little on my server.
Please stop with the myth that IC2 processing pipelines are always faster than TE/TC/FZ processing pipelines. It is distracting and immaterial to this conversation. Please. Just stop it. Given sufficient resource investment all 4 methods can be fast enough to handle any amount of incoming material without jamming or backing up. And while IC2 machines can achieve speed with slightly less investment; by the time you actually have the 3+ large area quarries or extra-tall frame bore running nonstop, resource allocation is not an issue and you can build your ore processing pipeline to arbitrary specifications anyways.
Well, it's not just the 1 extra gate. You also need to be careful to keep your machines aligned on the same grid because if you stagger them a wooden extract pipe could connect to two machines inadvertently. And you're constrained on which sides to connect to. You basically get less freedom in the design.
Your answer to the question is, "No. I like IC2 and I am glad it is in the DW20 pack." Saying all this other stuff that's just obviously not true only serves to turn this thread into the Macerator v. Pulverizer thread. We don't need 2 of those.
Kirin, I enjoy your posts, but please don't start back-pedaling when you don't get the responses you were hoping for
. I refer you back to the closing lines of your OP :
Am I missing something? At this point it seems like the only really neat thing IC2 offers is cheap, explosion resistant building materials and very convenient tools for making complex structures. Its autominer is nice, but not super necessary. The IC2 machines can be faster but they're obviously not "necessary". What's left for it in the DW20 pack
You carefully stated that you didn't want it to be another discussion about macerator vs pulveriser but then finished by leaving a piece of bait on the floor by stating the only thing IC2 is good for is x, y and z, conveniently leaving out any mention of automatic ore processing. Whether intentional or not, it was guaranteed to get a rise from the IC2 fans. The simple fact of the matter is that IC2
does work very well for auto ore processing and that is reason enough for it to be in the mod pack. We can argue semantics all day long about how x processes ores 0.02 seconds faster than y and how one system takes up a few more spaces than another, but in the grand scheme of things none of it matters. People like different things for different reasons and no amount of you continuing to tell me about "freedom of design" with TE machines and extra ore outputs will ever change my mind
. It'd be like me telling you that you should stop using TE because your 10 pulverisers that are needed to keep up with the speed of 1 overclocked macerator take up too much space and you should compact everything and be more space efficient! I simply wouldn't dream of doing that because it's your choice how you play the game.
