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SmokeLuvr1971

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Hmm...How is a single, un-upgraded Harvester cutting down trees 8 blocks outside its range?

edit: I know...it must be a blood magic effect :p
 

SmokeLuvr1971

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If a tree in the range of the harvester is touching one of it, it will harvest both

Right now, I only have my Rubber trees being 'harvested'. 3 blocks distant [left and right] are some 2x2 Jungles. 3 blocks in front of one of the Jungles is a Birch. So if I have a short Jungle and its leaves are touching both the Rubber and Birch, all 3 will be harvested? Is this 'working as intended'?

I seem to recall an issue like this with the TreeCpaitator mod and it was fixed and/or you could edit a config to stop it. If it's 'working as intended', I can roll with it...just have to connect up my planters so I don't lose saplings too often.

Edit: my trees are grouped close together to allow a sprinkler to service more than one 3x3 tree pad
 

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Hmm...How is a single, un-upgraded Harvester cutting down trees 8 blocks outside its range?

edit: I know...it must be a blood magic effect :p
The harvester has a "trigger" range which is what you see when you hold the sledge, but it's actual harvest range is much larger (something like 25x25x40 not the actual number but it's somewhere close to that large) as long as there is a connection between the trees horizontally, vertically it doesn't matter.
 

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Question: Is there a way to keep one and only one of any item type in an inventory in AgS?
E.g. Bee traits, there's not much point in having multiples

EDIT: Besides manual sorting
 

Ieldra

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Question: Is there a way to keep one and only one of any item type in an inventory in AgS?
E.g. Bee traits, there's not much point in having multiples

EDIT: Besides manual sorting
You could use AE export buses and level emitters - "if more than one of item X, then export into trashcan", but IMO it's not worth the effort. It isn't as if 2 of anything takes up significant more storage than one. Also, level emitters are awkward since you need one per item type you need to control. Most of the time it is - yet again - not worth the effort.

I'm much more concerned with overflow problems from my automated sieving. I'm continuously bemoaning the absence of Logistics Pipes, which are really smart and don't send anything into an ME interface if there's no space in the network. TE ducts are dumb and overflow clots up the interface's export slots. I'm experimenting with continuously piping things out from the interface into a trashcan, which should work if you don't export anything in his interface, but I'm not sure yet that I won't lose something important that way occasionally. Farms I can shut down once I have enough of what they make, but that's not feasible with the many difference things that you get from sifting.
 

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I'm much more concerned with overflow problems from my automated sieving. I'm continuously bemoaning the absence of Logistics Pipes, which are really smart and don't send anything into an ME interface if there's no space in the network. TE ducts are dumb and overflow clots up the interface's export slots. I'm experimenting with continuously piping things out from the interface into a trashcan, which should work if you don't export anything in his interface, but I'm not sure yet that I won't lose something important that way occasionally. Farms I can shut down once I have enough of what they make, but that's not feasible with the many difference things that you get from sifting.
I have a solution to that sort of..

I have my sieving set-up being collected by transition planes, and then in my AE network, I have all my drives set to priority 0, then I've got a wall of barrels for my high quantity items, each with their own storage bus partitioned to the item in the barrel with a priority set at 30 (could be 2 really, but I wanted room for flexibility in case I changed my mind about something later) Then I've got a storage bus pointed at an ME condenser set to produce singularities partitioned to all the items that I overflow on with a priority set at 10

That way whenever an item from sifting comes into my AE system, it attempts to go into the barrels first and if it doesn't fit there, it gets voided.

On my sifting set-up, I've also got a mess of rednet cables coupled with level emitters for all the products of sifting I'm interested in. With some AND gating, my sifters shut off if the system is full on all the important stuff.
 
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Ieldra

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I have a solution to that sort of..

I have my sieving set-up being collected by transition planes, and then in my AE network, I have all my drives set to priority 0, then I've got a wall of barrels for my high quantity items, each with their own storage bus partitioned to the item in the barrel with a priority set at 30 (could be 2 really, but I wanted room for flexibility in case I changed my mind about something later) Then I've got a storage bus pointed at an ME condenser set to produce singularities partitioned to all the items that I overflow on with a priority set at 10

That way whenever an item from sifting comes into my AE system, it attempts to go into the barrels first and if it doesn't fit there, it gets voided.

On my sifting set-up, I've also got a mess of rednet cables coupled with level emitters for all the products of sifting I'm interested in. With some AND gating, my sifters shut off if the system is full on all the important stuff.
I'm just dispensed with barrels except for the stuff left at the farms. Instead, I'm using a dedicated storage cell for each mass-produced item (yes, I do have seven ME drives and I'll probably have one or two more in time), but you gave me an idea: I have a subnetwork with only formatted storage for mass-produced items. If I add one storage bus pointed to a trashcan (Can't do the storage cluster yet - I need the diamonds for fluid storage) and give it the lowest priority, all items with nowhere else to go end up in the trash and my system won't get clogged up. Since I only use whitelists for putting things into the system anything new I may encounter will stay in the sieving system for now, but that's OK. It needs occasional adjustment anyway.
 

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I find it quite amusing since my gameplay was so much different. I only had 1 ME Drive (with 1k and 4k disks), never needed the fluid disk from extra cells, and reached 60-90% in most quests (before I got bored).
 

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I find it quite amusing since my gameplay was so much different. I only had 1 ME Drive (with 1k and 4k disks), never needed the fluid disk from extra cells, and reached 60-90% in most quests (before I got bored).
Playstyles are different. I tend to go all-out with automation, and I store everything (up to a certain amount) that isn't immediately used for something. For instance, I don't store saplings except for a few samples in a chest since they all go into dirt production, but I do store wheat because I'll need it soon to breed cows. I also tend to plan for contingencies, so for instance, my storage system is designed in a way that if I need to mass-produce something new, all I need to do (apart from creating the production facility of course) is add a formatted disk to my ME network and a tesseract to the production facility.
 

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TE ducts are dumb and overflow clots up the interface's export slots. I'm experimenting with continuously piping things out from the interface into a trashcan, which should work if you don't export anything in his interface, but I'm not sure yet that I won't lose something important that way occasionally. Farms I can shut down once I have enough of what they make, but that's not feasible with the many difference things that you get from sifting.
gather products from sifting with vacuum hopper into a chest, pipe it all with ducts into a wall o' barrels with storage buses attached with trashcan at the end. forget you ever had an overflow problem.
 

Ieldra

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I am trying to minimize my duct usage. It's not something you tend to notice in other modpacks since there are various alternatives for moving things around, but TE ducts cause considerable block update lag if used in significant amounts. So things will go into the ME network as soon as feasible.

Also, what's the best way automatically uncraft the metal blocks coming out of the high oven into ingots? Unfortunately, there is no "auto-unpacker". The alternatives I see are either 9 cyclic assemblers or two ME interfaces set to "always craft". The problem with the latter option is that it's a constant drain on the ME network's cpu time, and have been known to slow response time particularly when syncing with NEI. Are there other ways?
 
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subnet that gets the blocks and stores the uncrafted ingots (auto uncrafted with export bus by the subnet) that can be pulled out with storage buses attached to an interface
 
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I am trying to minimize my duct usage. It's not something you tend to notice in other modpacks since there are various alternatives for moving things around, but TE ducts cause considerable block update lag if used in significant amounts. So things will go into the ME network as soon as feasible.

Also, what's the best way automatically uncraft the metal blocks coming out of the high oven into ingots? Unfortunately, there is no "auto-unpacker". The alternatives I see are either 9 cyclic assemblers or two ME interfaces set to "always craft". The problem with the latter option is that it's a constant drain on the ME network's cpu time, and have been known to slow response time particularly when syncing with NEI. Are there other ways?

this is first time i hear about that..

if you need ingots, why don't you cast them in the first place?
 

Ieldra

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speed, casting blocks is 9 times faster
Exactly. Though depending on your method of resource gathering (automated sifting vs. laser drill), it may be feasible to use ingot casts from a Deep Tank, there should be enough space for two casts per metal.

BTW, how would you go about automating ingot casts? The drain ejects a cast's worth of metal with a redstone pulse, right? OK, then I'd need a redstone clock or a PRC. Will a hopper under the casting table automatically draw the ingots down as with the blocks, or will you need an AA for that?