Agrarian Skys help, venting, and discussion thread

[Golrith]

ok, so I updating my Arg Skies map, and suddenly it's now all easy mode? The 16 million buckets of sewage, thousands of lettuce, glass, etc, etc are now just single buckets, stacks or single items....
Erm...

Ah, wait, nvm, seems Jaded followed my suggestion, and break the hording quests into two. Easy version, and grind version afterwards. Luckily I haven't lost the progress of the original hording quests... Getting all that poo is not fun

 

[netmc]

Hmm, Golems. Bit of an issue there for me. Need a silk touch tool for grass for shards, which I don't think I have (will have to check), so that means making steel for advanced Tinker Tools, which I haven't touched yet or trying my luck with enchanting. After that, all the research to get a golem.
Oh well, I'll keep doing things manually for now while I'm getting other stuff done.

Wishing I had that slime bucket now...

I actually set up an old-school redpower "mossy cobblestone" farm to do this. A block deployer places dirt in front of a piston. The piston is on a timer and pushes the dirt down between two rows of grass. As the dirt is pushed down the line, grass will grow on it. At the end of the line is a AA with a hammer breaking the grass blocks and producing shards. Any dirt blocks that make it to the end are recycled back into the initial deployer and fed back into the system.

 

[Adonis0]

I actually set up an old-school redpower "mossy cobblestone" farm to do this. A block deployer places dirt in front of a piston. The piston is on a timer and pushes the dirt down between two rows of grass. As the dirt is pushed down the line, grass will grow on it. At the end of the line is a AA with a hammer breaking the grass blocks and producing shards. Any dirt blocks that make it to the end are recycled back into the initial deployer and fed back into the system.

I like this :3
So, we can do this for earth shards
igneous extruder for order
glacial precipitator for water
TNT gen for chaos
netherackk for fire
but how do we do air?
Would it work having an AA right clicking slabs down and then another AA hammers them?

 

[netmc]

Set up a 3x1 pond with an aqueous accumulator in the middle, put an Open Blocks tank on top and the accumulator constantly fills it. Then run a fluiduct from the tank wherever you need it. Should pump fast enough to keep up.

My system is using 60 buckets of water every 55 ticks using just one high oven. With both of my high ovens running, I'm using 120 buckets of water in a little less than 3 seconds. I know of nothing other than maybe an upgraded transfer node from extra utilities (which is disabled in this pack), that could keep up with that kind of water throughput. In fact, it takes 25 fluiduct connections just to pull the water in fast enough to get the kind of power I am producing from the system. I am producing a little over 2100 RF/tick for each high oven. Except for the need for the big reactors to produce cyanite, I could run everything off the steam generation from the high ovens. The amount of power produced from this system is directly proportional to the speed at which water can be input into the system.

I suppose that once I can build build a big reactors turbine, my water can be recycled from the steam, and will then become a closed loop. then I will no longer need all those aqueous accumulators.[DOUBLEPOST=1404165728][/DOUBLEPOST]

I like this :3
So, we can do this for earth shards
igneous extruder for order
glacial precipitator for water
TNT gen for chaos
netherackk for fire
but how do we do air?
Would it work having an AA right clicking slabs down and then another AA hammers them?

yep. just fill an AA with sandstone slabs. It will place two of them down before the hammer breaks the first slab.

I have all my shard production fully automatic. As I pull shards out of the system, my AE system crafts more.

 

[Zeeth_Kyrah]

I like this :3
So, we can do this for earth shards
igneous extruder for order
glacial precipitator for water
TNT gen for chaos
netherackk for fire
but how do we do air?
Would it work having an AA right clicking slabs down and then another AA hammers them?

That's how Direwolf20 and Pahimar did it. The AA gets those slabs down fast enough that the hammer can't break them first.

 

[blazer33333]

Just a question, but is there a need for this many shards? They don't actually seem to have many uses.

 

[netmc]

Just a question, but is there a need for this many shards? They don't actually seem to have many uses.

You can always use MOAR.

 

[ICountFrom0]

150 objects needed to make a dangerous instability infusion, well, not unstable even when the rolls go against you. Though that alone won't save you if you do something wrong.

That's 150 shards of each type.

They are also good providers of basic aspects for infusions. I'd say 4 stacks of each represents pretty much a life time collection, though I'm sure folks can point out more uses.

 

[Zeeth_Kyrah]

Just a question, but is there a need for this many shards? They don't actually seem to have many uses.

The deconstruction table lets you destroy items to gain aspects for research.

 

[Mechman007]

Just a question, but is there a need for this many shards? They don't actually seem to have many uses.

I have a ton already and i'm having to work hard to get more! Yes we need many shards! They won't show if your looking at NEI- but the thaumonomicon has a ton of uses for them!

In non skyblock thaumcraft you can mine a ton of these shards, we obviously don't have alot of options when it comes to mining shards in this modpack (being skyblock) so it's just like any other ore!

 

[HeilMewTwo]

Does anyone have any tips on how to blow through the trees & bees questline. I suck at using regular bees and I have no idea how gendustry works.

 

[Bagman817]

Does anyone have any tips on how to blow through the trees & bees questline. I suck at using regular bees and I have no idea how gendustry works.

My tip? Find out how Gendustry works. Just do search youtube for a mod spotlight. It makes bees and trees far less cumbersome. Be advised, however, make sure your power generation is up to snuff.

 

[Golrith]

Big problem I have at the moment is RNG is against me with netherrack (for fire shards). I'm not producing it fast enough from sludge, don't really want to waste redstone on making a batch. Might have to visit the nether.... Hmm, a stack of redstone is looking more appealing...


in the latest version of the pack, what do you have to unlock to access the soulsand for the hording quest? I had that quest in progress in 2.1.9, but now it's blocked.

 

[Bibble]

Does anyone have any tips on how to blow through the trees & bees questline. I suck at using regular bees and I have no idea how gendustry works.

Gendustry really is your friend, not least because it allows you to not only force a mutation, but also to direct it. The blocks that you really need to be aware of would be the Advanced mutatron, industrial apiary, and, optionally, the sampler and imprinter (and accompanying mutagen producer, I suppose).

A quick rundown of those blocks:

- Apiary. Takes power, produces like an alveary. Simple as. There are upgrades, and they do exactly what they say on the tin (speed, lifespan, production, etc.). Each industrial apiary has the same requirements as a standard apiary, unless the upgrades mitigate it (such as removing the need for sunlight, sky, temperature, etc.).

- Advanced mutatron. Place a princess and a drone in the slots, and you'll be given options according to the possible mutations of the two. Select, and you get a fully pure-bred queen of the new species.

- Sampler. You know the sampler in Extra Bees? Same deal. The difference here is that the samples can be combined into an imprint, so you can have an "ideal" type that overwrites the relevant portions of the gene (flowers, short lifespan, fast, tolerances, etc.). It's helpful for getting the highest bee density. The Imprinter takes a template and inprints the bee with it. Automatically overwrites BOTH active and inactive.

My advice would be to grab a few traits from a few bees, to make the following template:
- Fast (optional, but helpful)
- Short Lifespan
- Max Fertility (found on wintry bees)
- Temp tolerances, if you like, but environment upgrades can deal with that
- Flowers pollinating

Grab the next bee in the mutation line, get a queen, run that through the imprinter (to remove pesky flowering preferences), run till dead, and re-imprint. Stick the new duo into an automated apiary and leave for a bit, that should get you both drones and princesses for breeding.

You should be able to interrogate NEI to see what bees you need for doing what, and the lines needed to get there.

 

[HeilMewTwo]

Gendustry really is your friend, not least because it allows you to not only force a mutation, but also to direct it. The blocks that you really need to be aware of would be the Advanced mutatron, industrial apiary, and, optionally, the sampler and imprinter (and accompanying mutagen producer, I suppose).

Thanks this really helps.

 

[blazer33333]

150 objects needed to make a dangerous instability infusion, well, not unstable even when the rolls go against you. Though that alone won't save you if you do something wrong.

That's 150 shards of each type.

They are also good providers of basic aspects for infusions. I'd say 4 stacks of each represents pretty much a life time collection, though I'm sure folks can point out more uses.

But why use shards? The candles work just fine and are easier to get.

 

[Bibble]

But why use shards? The candles work just fine and are easier to get.

Also, mob heads, as most not-grinder mob farms give you so many that it's silly.

 

[Namorax]

Big problem I have at the moment is RNG is against me with netherrack (for fire shards). I'm not producing it fast enough from sludge, don't really want to waste redstone on making a batch. Might have to visit the nether.... Hmm, a stack of redstone is looking more appealing...


in the latest version of the pack, what do you have to unlock to access the soulsand for the hording quest? I had that quest in progress in 2.1.9, but now it's blocked.

If Netherrack is your problem, once you get an Enderquarry and (maybe) a Flight-Potion/Jetpack you should be able to deal with it immediately:
You need:
-1 Enderquarry
-1 Warp Page
-1 Stack of Enderpearls
-1 Tesseract
-3+ stacks of fences

Go to the Nether and fly/mine your way to the bedrock-roof and throw a few enderpearls at it.
Gratulations! You have escaped the Nether and everything that might be able to kill you. Use your Warp Page to easily return to the place you put down your Enderquarry and hook it up with the Tesseract. Place your fences in order to define the quarry's working area and you'll never need to mine another block of netherrack again. As a bonus you get tons of nether ores as well!

 

[Strikingwolf]

when I try to move any item in the warp book mod in my inventory it crashes and makes the world inoperable

 

[ICountFrom0]

But why use shards? The candles work just fine and are easier to get.

Also, mob heads, as most not-grinder mob farms give you so many that it's silly.

Sadly, what I have seen about heads is that they have to be EXACTLY the same facing to count as the same object. So the only safe place to put them is on a wall.

Candles can only go on top of a block.

The clusters can go on all 6 sides.

Now, as for items in the thaumimonicron that can be made with them, there are quite a few. Salis Mundis can still be made with shards, and is part of many things, and is core to the enchanting mechism.

You'll be able to freely use upgrades in your golems.

Primal charm, so that you can recharge your wand easily.

The wiki is lacking most of what's good, and that might be why your underestimating the utility.