Mainly because I feel that a gold chest full of stacks of metal blocks currently fills my need for metals.
[1.6.4]Crash Landing [Hardcore, HQM] version 1.1.x BETA STABLE
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it'll clog up the fluiducts regardless, you're just moving the clog from the high oven to the deep tank.
If you keep smelting for long enough (i.e. in an automated setup), the high oven + deep tank combo will overflow just as easily as the high oven itself.
So rather than increasing your molten metal buffer, its a better idea to properly manage the output.
I found that a hardened portable tank for each casting basin, with one casting basin per metal works for me.
What this does is clears out the single current metal as fast as possible, allowing the next metal to start flowing faster. This means more than one casting basin is working at once, increasing the speed molten metal is removed from the system.
Ofcourse this doesn't work as you smelt more and more of a single metal type (or all metal types) - since eventually you reach a point where a the buffer isn't big enough and you keep pulling out the first metal type, meaning you are only using a single casting basin. Or, you hit a point where two/three casting basins can't keep up with the amount of metal of each type you're producing. Or, a single fluiduct input/output, or fluiduct set, can't keep up with the production of the high oven (can't pull the metal out faster than it's being produced, when not clogging).
Either way, the deep tank doesn't really do anything...
So don't use fluiduct, use SFM and problem solved. It's faster and never clogs. Programming it is not anywhere near as hard as it looks.
I may be talkin outta my rear and missing something since I don't use my high oven, but with all the issues and problems surrounding TE ducts, SFM just sounds like the logical answer to me.
Well, I mean, you're currently using 9 drums instead. Why not use barrels, and if you don't want any more after 64 stacks of blocks you could put a void upgrade on them. It should save you some time in the long run
(no more replacing barrels)You know this sounds more like a backed up TE item duct than anything else check to see if you any backed up
Set it up and forget about it pneumaticraft pressure:
PRC is set to Left/White < 10 = high signal on Right/White (note: we're looking at the back of the PRC)
Compressor is set to operate on high signal
Pressure regulator tube is only letting 4.5bars of pressure into the standard tube side which goes off to my assembly line and pressure chamber.
Keeps 15 bars on the advanced side, 4.5 bars on the standard side.
I assume there is an easy way to internally generate a 12 redstone signal in the PRC which would allow me to get rid of the redstone/lever but I haven't figured that out. I'm not sure I'd trust that to rednet, though, not sure what state it would be in the instant a chunk loads.
Bonus picture, world's least efficient mob grinder. Tempted to add some conveyor belts, just to be evil. Set them on fire then drop them all the way to bedrock.
PRC is set to Left/White < 10 = high signal on Right/White (note: we're looking at the back of the PRC)
Compressor is set to operate on high signal
Pressure regulator tube is only letting 4.5bars of pressure into the standard tube side which goes off to my assembly line and pressure chamber.
Keeps 15 bars on the advanced side, 4.5 bars on the standard side.
I assume there is an easy way to internally generate a 12 redstone signal in the PRC which would allow me to get rid of the redstone/lever but I haven't figured that out. I'm not sure I'd trust that to rednet, though, not sure what state it would be in the instant a chunk loads.
Bonus picture, world's least efficient mob grinder. Tempted to add some conveyor belts, just to be evil. Set them on fire then drop them all the way to bedrock.
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iirc SFM can't see smeltery/high oven drains properly, so you'd have to have a drum or something to empty the high oven out into first.
Ok, so i'm assuming fluiduct just can't keep up here so...2 drains spaced a block apart, fluiduct out to basin, casting table, etc. SFM item cable in-between them pulling molten metals to process or store elsewhere. Even ir u used 9 basins to process, you could loop from one end to the other and prevent multiple partially filled basins of the same metals.
Just thinking out loud here while trying to balance oven speed and prevent clog problems. Does this sound feasible? If so it may be a little more time consuming to set up, but cheaper than deep tank.
I did pretty much the same thing except used SFM instead of the Rednet computer and I set mine to stay at 19.5 bars on the advanced side and 4.5 bars on the standard side. Also, with SFM, you can easily set a constant redstone signal of 12 directly to the advanced pressure regulator with a redstone emitter to clean up that vanilla redstone. I never had any problems with it on chunk load or anything.
Well he's changed his website now so there's no changelog to verify this, but last I checked he did a re-write for the 1.7 version of EIO that was basically a complete overhaul of how he managed the machines. The old process he'd used since he started coding had a tendency to cause massive amounts of chunk updates which would cripple fps and tps. If there was a 1.6.4 version made with that re-write in mind then there should be no worries. I was out of MC for a few months so it's certainly possible.
I'm not looking to warn people about something. Don't take my warning as an attack or some such. I'm very open about warning people of the dangers of all the ducts/conduits(Not just item) because they all share a common issue. FYI it has nothing to do with TE for the most part it's the integration of FMP which allows the multi-heads in a single block that causes them to break and corrupt. Any other mod that uses FMP in that same manner will corrupt/break the same way.
I've decided to stop using SFM. Cheap automation that can do anything has a tendency of keeping me from using anything else. Same reason I avoid ComputerCraft.
If I keep using it it would just be a matter of time before my base devolved into one room filled with machines/barrels/chests/tanks with a floor made up of SFM cable.
Every time I try and think something up, the only way to prevent clog problems is to have 9 of something, ususally drums/tanks.Ok, so i'm assuming fluiduct just can't keep up here so...2 drains spaced a block apart, fluiduct out to basin, casting table, etc. SFM item cable in-between them pulling molten metals to process or store elsewhere. Even ir u used 9 basins to process, you could loop from one end to the other and prevent multiple partially filled basins of the same metals.
Just thinking out loud here while trying to balance oven speed and prevent clog problems. Does this sound feasible? If so it may be a little more time consuming to set up, but cheaper than deep tank.
The goal would be to get SFM to handle the liquids, since it can move them fastest, and therefore make the casting basins run fastest, it can also always make sure to send a blocks worth of metal into the casting tables every time, meaning no clogs, and less casting basins needed.
So you could have 2 fluiducts pulling out of high oven drains, each into a separate drum, then use SFM to pull out of those drums and into sorted drums immediately - that should prevent fluiduct speed being an issue, and if it becomes an issue, you just add another drain & drum.
From there you could get SFM to pull only a blocks worth of any metal from any drum into one of a few casting basins. add casting basins as necessary to deal with load.
That's probably the fastest setup you can get, and it's expandable to be faster & faster. Also with the way it works, the buffer tanks (the 9 drums) would theoretically never hold more than a blocks worth of molten metal at a time, so you could use the basic portable tanks (an ingot is 144mB, right?), or OB tanks.
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The deep tank is like a pit full of baby zombies. with water. and alligators. on fire. during an earthquake.
what's wrong with that? You could use camoflauge cables and make them anything you wanted
either way, black is a good color hehe Seriously, I understand your concern. I myself don't see things that way. I don't avoid things that I find interesting and can do amazing things. I end up using said things because they are able to do things the way I want them to, versus the way the mod maker designates I do them.
As per the setups people are describing, I've done my homework in this regard.
SFM does not see anything tinker's via tanks (i.e. smeltery, high oven, deep tank) which really makes it impossible to use to move fluids out of those things. I always end up using a deep tank mostly as a buffer. By the time I finish making one, I tend to have a pretty decent backlog of dust to go into high oven, and I want to keep that running as fast as possible. Just one fluiduct coming out of high oven leading into deep tank drains it as quick as it can. A pretty large deep tank will hold millions of millibuckets of liquids, thus give you the buffer you need.
Yes, it's a bit buggy. sometimes when you get too full, right clicking the deep tank i/f will yield you a blank screen. clicking it again will yield you a ctd.
I tend to add around the sides, one filtered fluiduct going to a casting basin + casting table w/ingot cast with a cover in between. I do 3 irons and the rest are individual mostly. I add one individual casting table with faucet to make buckets of liquid for filters. I have SFM on the bottom removing the blocks/ingots into a chest. Even with a large large backlog (see post 20+ pages back), it is able to catch up. I don't have memory leaks because of it, etc.
Wait, what? I tested that myself. SFM sees Tinker's tanks (the drain is what makes the tank accessible, remember) and can even input into them as well as detect (liquid condition), but cannot pull from them for some reason. It also cannot detect items in casting basins or pull from them, even though it can put items in. The basin interactions are fixed in 1.7.10, but smeltery drain interactions are not.
I had the most appropriate message ever when I loaded up Crash Landing earlier:
Halp it says invalid structure
Not sure why. It worked when it was smaller (shorter). Is it too long or the glass doesnt work?
Not sure why. It worked when it was smaller (shorter). Is it too long or the glass doesnt work?
You have to unban yourself, and delete your player data on the server (can't remember exact location/name, but check players/NAMEOFPLAYER.dat and delete it). Once you do that you'll be able to connect like a new player.
no idea if I should submit bug reports here or not but your latest version 1.1.2.1 appears to have no sound despite me checking all the levels on both my computer and in Minecraft. Not sure if it's a visual thing but the minimap appears to flash now also. Not sure what else you need me to submit but if you let me know I'm sure I can find it and provide it if needed.
EDIT: I didn't see this before but the console is mentioning the sound system so here's the console log:
http://pastebin.com/H3G5nUKh
EDIT: I didn't see this before but the console is mentioning the sound system so here's the console log:
http://pastebin.com/H3G5nUKh
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