Why Does Everyone Care So Much About Expense

[Quesenek]

I should also say that I play play on a server that is running 24/7 to take care of the time factor.

 

[SatanicSanta]

It's far more basic issue than that. There's not really a problem with Flint and Steel taking steel, or a blast furnace, or anything else, if you're intending for there to be other ways to open a nether portal /anyway/. Greg's talked repeatedly about simpler, one-use, disposable firestarters, and it's not like it's hard to start a Nether portal using lava instead of flint anyway. But the Flint and Steel change was easy, so it was pushed before the disposable firestarters were anywhere near the horizon.

Eh... the old farm styles were incredibly bleh. The issue with the new farms is more that they don't have much in the way of smaller options -- even the smallest take nearly a stack of copper and tin, and simultaneously presents a good deal more coverage than a lot of folk really need.

Do you mean how they convert them into their forestry treebreeding equivalent? Is that a severe issue?

I had no idea you could use lava to make a nether portal.

It's annoying in sorting systems if you plan everything out for spruce wood, and it turns out that it is actually red spruce that you need.[DOUBLEPOST=1371674497][/DOUBLEPOST]

I should also say that I play play on a server that is running 24/7 to take care of the time factor.

Same here. If you play on a server that is up pretty much all the time and you keep your base chunkloaded time isn't much of an issue, except for crafting/building.[DOUBLEPOST=1371674724][/DOUBLEPOST]

looks same to me

Nope.
Iridium Ore Item - IC2
Iridium Ore Block - GT

 

[EternalDensity]

Santa, you obviously don't list time in the same context as a lot of people in terms of it being a limited resource. I think that's why you continue to ignore the very elegant replies which directly address the OP. There's no need for me to rehash what has already been stated. Time is not an issue for you.

You also seem to have a linear perspective on a non-linear game. This too has been addressed but it doesn't compute for you so you don't respond. You just aren't in a place to understand.

I didn't really talk about it because it is obvious. I am not talking (that much) about life, more about the resources in the game.

I think what people are missing is that for most of us, if we want to spend 12 hours playing Minecraft, it will take up half our day. But Santa is someone who can deliver presents to every house in the entire worlds in just one night. So he doesn't have the same perspective of the value of real-life time as we do.

 

[Saice]

I think what people are missing is that for most of us, if we want to spend 12 hours playing Minecraft, it will take up half our day. But Santa is someone who can deliver presents to every house in the entire worlds in just one night. So he doesn't have the same perspective of the value of real-life time as we do.

I'm fairly sure your getting your Santas mixed up. I belive that the Satanic Santa delivers something other then presents.

 

[EternalDensity]

I'm fairly sure your getting your Santas mixed up. I belive that the Satanic Santa delivers something other then presents.

In Minecraft, switcheslevers and coal are presents.

[edit] Also, that should be "you're getting your Santas mixed up."

 

[SatanicSanta]

I'm fairly sure your getting your Santas mixed up. I belive that the Satanic Santa delivers something other then presents.

I give certain kinds of "presents". Don't be naughty, or do.

 

[Chocorate]

By the way Chocorate, the galgadorian drill is, I think, justifiably expensive... have you seen the speed of it?!? It mines 1 block per tick, without leaving giant holes everywhere, and with a proper setup needs no input after the initial setup. Hell, in the latest version of SC2 you can enchant cart tools (they don't last forever, but they still last a loooooooooooooong time).

i think you completely missed the point. i think i even repeated myself too many times. I said that the better option would be to nerf it, not raise the cost. now nobody wants to play with it. raising the cost is the lazy man's choice, and too many modders use it waay too liberally. iChun increasing portalgun cost is different though.



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[SatanicSanta]

iChun increasing portalgun cost is different though.

How so?

 

[Chocorate]

How so?

Can't make it more or less powerful. Gregtech is also exempt as that's its entire purpose.

 

[Mero]

How so?

Portal gun was never meant to be a survival mod. It was made for adventure maps. The cost and ease to make one was reflected in that.

 

[Chocorate]

Portal gun was never meant to be a survival mod. It was made for adventure maps. The cost and ease to make one was reflected in that.

I hate the cost, but I do agree that it should be a bit more expensive. (I hate it when authors make things require ender eyes or other mob drops. The item doesn't help me kill mobs, it isn't a mod spawner, and it doesn't do anything related to mobs, why make it so i can't get it if I'm on peaceful..)

 

[Poppycocks]

I hate the cost, but I do agree that it should be a bit more expensive. (I hate it when authors make things require ender eyes or other mob drops. The item doesn't help me kill mobs, it isn't a mod spawner, and it doesn't do anything related to mobs, why make it so i can't get it if I'm on peaceful..)

You can still find it as loot.

 

[Mero]

I hate the cost, but I do agree that it should be a bit more expensive. (I hate it when authors make things require ender eyes or other mob drops. The item doesn't help me kill mobs, it isn't a mod spawner, and it doesn't do anything related to mobs, why make it so i can't get it if I'm on peaceful..)

While I do understand your (frustration?) with this, if it were me, if I was playing on peaceful, I would have no problem turning on creative mode to get mob drops.

 

[EternalDensity]

Can someone remind me whether an uncrafting table is obtainable in peaceful mode? If it is, then with Twilight Forest and gravguns, you can obtain netherstars without mobs.

 

[Poppycocks]

Can someone remind me whether an uncrafting table is obtainable in peaceful mode? If it is, then with Twilight Forest and gravguns, you can obtain netherstars without mobs.

Also, peaceful table from extra utilities. And then the peaceful nether star recipe.

 

[Hydra]

While I do understand your (frustration?) with this, if it were me, if I was playing on peaceful, I would have no problem turning on creative mode to get mob drops.

What I did in solo play was just to give myself a bunch of spawn eggs and put them in a deployer. Push button > mob > kill. Still more or less "fair" because I kill the mod without the annoying part of actually having to go and find a blaze spawner.

 

[Dravarden]

Making recipes harder for me is like changing the recipe of the crafting bench to use 4 logs instead of 4 planks, is the exact same stupid thing, but requires you to punch 3 more logs before you get it.

TL;DR: Waste of time.

EDIT: changed "requires 9 wooden planks instead of 4" to "requires 4 wooden logs" because as pointed bellow, you wouldn't be able to craft it.

 

[ApSciLiara]

Making recipes harder for me is like changing the recipe of the crafting bench to use 9 planks instead of 4, is the exact same stupid thing, but requires you to punch 2 more logs before you get it.

TL;DR: Waste of time.

Funny story, if the crafting table needed 9 planks to create, then you'd never be able to create it because the crafting grid won't fit anything more than 4.

 

[Loufmier]

Funny story, if the crafting table needed 9 planks to create, then you'd never be able to create it because the crafting grid won't fit anything more than 4.

i bet there would be "crafting table crafter", that has a 3x3 grid, but would only be able to craft crafting tables. wait... there was something similar...

 

[Dravarden]

Funny story, if the crafting table needed 9 planks to create, then you'd never be able to create it because the crafting grid won't fit anything more than 4.

ok, forgot about that, make it require 4 wooden logs.