What cool little thing have you discovered today?
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Oh the surface, yeah, but they don't all work in all automation systems, and there is the downside of not getting some drops if you automate then I hear. That is, one ends up with a seed with a different meta data then excepted and it won't give extra seeds or nature essence. A prime example is the Sugar Cane seeds, they always drop sugar canes with a meta data of :1 instead of the expected :0 and so one can't use them to craft sugar or paper, or... anything. But, one can easily turn those back into normal sugar canes because they only do so if one isn't already holding a stack of normal sugar canes(well, a stack for them to fill into I mean).
Elaborate. Is it a big problem? Everything will be going into my AE system, so I won't even touch it until I want it from my ME network.[DOUBLEPOST=1403514855][/DOUBLEPOST]Problem is that the essence isn't renewable?
What? It's clear as it is. Just don't expect a fully automated solution to have the same results as your manual farm and problem solved. Don't use the sugar cane crops(unless it's been fixed) unless you do it by hand or are very careful.
And essence dust is totally renewable because of essence seeds. They drop in the wild and can be grown to net you essence dust, the stuff one uses for literally ever "Magical crop" in Magical Crops. Slather some bonemeal on grass and get seeds.
Hmmm. My other question is that, what do you do with the "ender pearl essence", for example. Is it a shapeless crafting recipe to turn multiple essence into the item?
8 of them (a full crafting grid minus the center) will turn into an ender pearl. All the crafting recipes for the essences are shaped, but you can look up the shapes in NEI. Most of them are 8 of them in a square but some (like nether essence) have multiple recipes for different things.
...While @malicious_bloke is right, why even ask when you have NEI? And "I'm not in game right now" isn't a valid explanation since If you aren't in game, you shouldn't be actually thinking about making things in Minecraft right now. Either play the game or take a break.
Plus, countless examples of how it works exists already. Just go do it and don't ask us how to do it.
That depends on the config: You can disable the ability to get essence seeds, which is e.g. default in TPPI.
Ic2 cannot replicate nether stars and it cannot dup anything from another mod.
Almost everything these days is configurable. That said, just growing small game crops can net you some weak essence now and then if enabled. I'd use that, but without growing my own essence dust, big game crops are very hard to make let alone for more then a few people on a server to make them.
Important part of Magical Crops is that it's highly configurable, for anyones sense of balance. I personally find the defaults a bit too generous and "easy".
Also, with Minetweaker, if there are crops that don't exist in your world (such as IC2 uranium in a non-IC2 pack), you can change it's crafting recipe to make use of those extra "uncraftable" plants. I made Uranium plants craftable from Yellorium Ingots, and the Uranium Essence drops turn into Yellorium.
I don't use Dartcraft, so I've also got the Force Seeds/Plants "free", although not sure yet what resource I could adapt them to.
Overall, to get to the good stuff in Magical crops is a major investment (especially if you lower the seed chance and crafting outputs), so much essence dust is required.
Also, with Minetweaker, if there are crops that don't exist in your world (such as IC2 uranium in a non-IC2 pack), you can change it's crafting recipe to make use of those extra "uncraftable" plants. I made Uranium plants craftable from Yellorium Ingots, and the Uranium Essence drops turn into Yellorium.
I don't use Dartcraft, so I've also got the Force Seeds/Plants "free", although not sure yet what resource I could adapt them to.
Overall, to get to the good stuff in Magical crops is a major investment (especially if you lower the seed chance and crafting outputs), so much essence dust is required.
The Force Seeds are kinds odd IMO. On one hand, it makes sense, since Force Gems are not a renewable resource, and they are your main(and without other mods, pretty much only) source of liquid force. On the other, add Forestry or TE3 and Force Logs are your main supply of Liquid Force. Force Gems are not even needed to craft force ingots if you have Forestry since one can just use the Carpenter.
And how many people have TE3 or Forestry? Or rather, how many FTB players don't have access to either of the ways to process force logs into liquid force from these mods but do have DartCraft? It's pretty odd.
...Plus, can't one just make Uranium crops from any ore-dictionary uranium and make it into any ore-dictionary uranium? Ever since Magical Crops removed it's ore-dictionary versions of things, it's been much more usable.
I think it's because Yellorium from BigReactors is not OreDicted to Uranium. Or, I'm a few versions out of date 
Regardless, I love that with Minetweaker, you can really have ultimate control over what Magical Crops produces, due to you actually growing essence, and crafting it to make resources
Regardless, I love that with Minetweaker, you can really have ultimate control over what Magical Crops produces, due to you actually growing essence, and crafting it to make resources
I think it's because Yellorium from BigReactors is not OreDicted to Uranium. Or, I'm a few versions out of date
Regardless, I love that with Minetweaker, you can really have ultimate control over what Magical Crops produces, due to you actually growing essence, and crafting it to make resources
Afaik Yellorium ist OreDicted as Uranium.
Yeah there is in the 1.6 version only very few items that can be scanned/replicated. Think we were left hanging just after the machines were added and before any variety of recipes were added.
Only just briefly tested it, but so far only found stuff like iridium, diamonds and clay.