erindalc's post, he's not making any new town claims he didn't read before him, and he excuses his wolf claim by saying its a gut read. Which I sometimes do as a wolf. See last start.
Werewolves the matrix. [Game Thread][Championship Practice]
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I'm looking at his post from the perspective that we previously suspected him because of a weird vote on Nojr. I am accepting the fact that erin did in fact make a joke vote, I had a suspicion of such earlier but it was just crossing into serious territory.
Also my top two scum reads were erin and fred, so for erin to vote fred it makes me feel more confident about my fred vote and it makes erin look townier.
I missed some stuff, I see.
Hm. Pyure and Vike are arguing. Probably not both wolves.
That said, if I am a town cop, then my N0 scan was that Nojr is a villager. Take that as you will.
## Vote Frederikam
Hm. Pyure and Vike are arguing. Probably not both wolves.
"Seer hunt clear" is the term for this, correct? Seems townish to me, although in that Wild West game, somebody got called out for maybe kind of trying to do that. So I dunno.
That said, if I am a town cop, then my N0 scan was that Nojr is a villager. Take that as you will.
As others have said, Fred's been ridiculously pushy here. I don't know him well enough to say if that's typical or not, but I don't like it. Bad vibes and all that.
## Vote Frederikam
I like this guy. I don't know who you are, but I like the way you think.
Hooray?
I feel like I should dispute this.
Mobile veteran here. Hit "reply", type your response, then scroll up to the next post you want to quote and hit "reply", rinse repeat.
Can I ask what made you read town on Corpse? It was a gut read, I know, but what led you there?
Erin voted for Fred after Vike posted his Erin/Fred reads, so it's possible erin saw that and is just trying to distance himself from fred to avoid being lynched.
I can't think of anything particular, just his general behavior.
Fred seems super aggressive this game, which was my reasoning for that read. It's possible he's just a hyper villager too, but that's not how I feel right now.
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To be fair, I randomvote on D1 and D2 by default just to shake the tree, but I'll agree that he's trying to shake the whole damned orchard on D1.
I do think that the Pyure/Vikestep argument feels pretty genuine in terms of them not both being wolves. (Especially since they do this sort of thing later in the game if they are, but this early, nope.) Doesn't rule out either of them as one, but I'll take a 50/50 any time.
Under consideration, I will ##vote Fred.
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I do think that the Pyure/Vikestep argument feels pretty genuine in terms of them not both being wolves. (Especially since they do this sort of thing later in the game if they are, but this early, nope.) Doesn't rule out either of them as one, but I'll take a 50/50 any time.
Under consideration, I will ##vote Fred.
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I am slowly losing hope in this game if not for this community in general.
At Mafia Universe, activity levels are quite different. I tend to be more passive there, but everything is relative. I don't think I can be passive in a community like this, because there always seems to be a rather passive town. This is the ideal town in the perspective of a wolf. This setup was shaped after MU and the championships. Extreme levels of activity should be expected, but this isn't the case here. Think more than 1000 posts instead of 100 on D1.
The wolves have very little interest in seeming aggressive. Aggression isn't subtle here. The wolves want to stay low profile, and generally do not need to push villagers. They merely need to influence the lynch in their favour. VikeStep should know that I am NOT aggressive as a wolf.
At Mafia Universe, activity levels are quite different. I tend to be more passive there, but everything is relative. I don't think I can be passive in a community like this, because there always seems to be a rather passive town. This is the ideal town in the perspective of a wolf. This setup was shaped after MU and the championships. Extreme levels of activity should be expected, but this isn't the case here. Think more than 1000 posts instead of 100 on D1.
The wolves have very little interest in seeming aggressive. Aggression isn't subtle here. The wolves want to stay low profile, and generally do not need to push villagers. They merely need to influence the lynch in their favour. VikeStep should know that I am NOT aggressive as a wolf.
Look at any of the MU games we have played. You will see the town has pushed the other players around to get them to speak. I am not accusing him of being a wolf. I am solely putting him in a spotlight.
Mumble mumble burden of proof
-"Seconded Beta!", read from Pyure about Fred (both were town). 'Aggressive' mentioned by name.
For what it's worth at this stage, I'm reading townish on fred. He's accusing a large amount of people from the very start of the game, which is counter-intuitive for a wolf that wants to stay anonymous.
The wagon's kinda sketchy now, too. Leth's vote was an antismite, SE's and Erin's votes were based on bad vibes and "being pushy", and yours was a process of elimination between your two top suspects.
To be honest, my self-vote is never meant to stay, but it does make the people seconding it look a little bit suspicious, I guess?
Actually, I'll vote Letho, because of Pyure's call on him in #30. I don't think that's a killing vote, right?
EDIT: And before I forget to put this down to writing, I have a gut feeling that SE37 is in the mob. Assuming this would lead to Pyure and Corpsecat probably being mobsters as well. Vike dying tonight would support this claim. All my suspicion on SE37 is based on #64.
@dylanpiera, shouldn't you call out to all people who haven't responded to this thread yet? If you're not technically allowed to, can one of us players do that?
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Just look at Seconded Beta. Being aggressive got me lynched on D1 as a villager. Don't commit the same mistake again.
My style of play is quickly evolving as a player who hasn't played much in recent years. The fact that I acted differently in one game as town a some weeks ago doesn't mean much anymore, as my methods are different now.
I would like to push @Someone Else 37 for not being very reasonable either. He sort of gave an opinion on CorpseCat, but it was very vague why he liked him.
Going to do proper reads when I have time. Currently doing a large group report and I don't want to slack from my group responsibilities, so I'll be back later.
Okay, wow look at this mess. Posts that look somewhat suspicious.
And those who voted for Fred are scummy too
In fact, I'm going to ##Vote Vike he doesn't usually do stuff like this
Oh it's the "I'm a villager" thing again.
I mean, I could see why a villager would post this, but... it's just wolfy.
Anyways, Robin just seems to be going with Pyure's "analysis". And I don't see why Vike dying tonight will make So37, Pyure and Corpse mafia.
And those who voted for Fred are scummy too
##Vote Frederikam
Why? Because I think Fred being pushy is just perfectly fine. I do not see any problem with him calling out those he thinks are inactive. It's a great way to generate discussion. This makes those voting for Fred suspicious, as they seem to be just looking for reasons to vote for someone.
In fact, I'm going to ##Vote Vike he doesn't usually do stuff like this
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Alright I messed up hard a while ago so I haven’t really read the new thread at all till now…
From meta and his few posts, I lean town on CorpseCat.
Not sure about frederikam,town!him may be doing this inactive pushing a lot, but it is very easy to pull this off as a wolf too. And many people who know him think he’s wolf.
Pyure’s posts all feel townie-genuine despite the jest. I like him.
That vote looked so joke it is actually suspicious that YOU want to push robij for something like that...
lol rng, peeks, and the rest.
If I am cop my n0 peek was that VikeStep is villager
Erin vote on Fred is quite interesting. Both look bad, and now we have the one voting the other about it.
Don't listen to them, play the MU way
I think that post was easy for a wolf to make. Town Pyure, Town Corpse, Wolf Fred, Vote Fred. Shows off that they worked towards getting townreads when they are the kind of townreads it's very easy to make. Then they wolfread the best candidate that isn't them and try to push him.
Why wouldn't wolf!erin vote town!fred in this case? Would look townier and paint Fred as scummier in your eyes, just what wolf!erin woud like?
Not saying that erin is definitely wolf, just that wolf!erin could very easily play like that.
When too many people vote someone too easily, early on, that someone tends to be town…
Lethosos wagoning Fred that much doesn’t make them look good.
Talking about here or MU?
Shazam first post didn’t feel very towny. Robij vote on Letho is good.
Agreed. Why did you drop the whole "voting for them for a post or two, changing my vote around a lot" thing, though?
I don’t really like Victini either. Quotes, quotes, quotes, very few reasoning, vote Vike. Who I think is top town.
I'll ##VOTE: Lethosos for now. Suspicious enough to warrant a d1 vote, good counter-wagon to Fred whose votes piled up extremely quickly.
the real reason is because they're totally insane wolfy-wolves if Yogg-Saron is whispering them things all this time
From meta and his few posts, I lean town on CorpseCat.
Not sure about frederikam,town!him may be doing this inactive pushing a lot, but it is very easy to pull this off as a wolf too. And many people who know him think he’s wolf.
Pyure’s posts all feel townie-genuine despite the jest. I like him.
That vote looked so joke it is actually suspicious that YOU want to push robij for something like that...
lol rng, peeks, and the rest.
If I am cop my n0 peek was that VikeStep is villager
Erin vote on Fred is quite interesting. Both look bad, and now we have the one voting the other about it.
Don't listen to them, play the MU way
I think that post was easy for a wolf to make. Town Pyure, Town Corpse, Wolf Fred, Vote Fred. Shows off that they worked towards getting townreads when they are the kind of townreads it's very easy to make. Then they wolfread the best candidate that isn't them and try to push him.
Why wouldn't wolf!erin vote town!fred in this case? Would look townier and paint Fred as scummier in your eyes, just what wolf!erin woud like?
Not saying that erin is definitely wolf, just that wolf!erin could very easily play like that.
When too many people vote someone too easily, early on, that someone tends to be town…
Lethosos wagoning Fred that much doesn’t make them look good.
Talking about here or MU?
Shazam first post didn’t feel very towny. Robij vote on Letho is good.
Agreed. Why did you drop the whole "voting for them for a post or two, changing my vote around a lot" thing, though?
I don’t really like Victini either. Quotes, quotes, quotes, very few reasoning, vote Vike. Who I think is top town.
I'll ##VOTE: Lethosos for now. Suspicious enough to warrant a d1 vote, good counter-wagon to Fred whose votes piled up extremely quickly.
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I won't disagree with anyone but Vike. You may not be too bad, I'll need more content from you to form a better read.