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IRC and Reddit are not the only places that mod devs will get ideas for nerfs. Twitter, MCF, here, and servers they are on will contribute. And let's not forget actually using their own mod as the main factor.
I highly doubt those locations are the only places they get ideas. They would have to never go anywhere else related to modded MC in anyway to not be influenced outside of IRC and Reddit.
Um. Have you been on IRC? Reddit, okay, fair enough, but IRC is just a chat... Most channels are either inactive or have off-topic discussion 85% of the time, tech support 5% of the time, and actual on-topic discussion for the remaining 10%.
Not all YouTubers. It's mostly the "lolsorandom" YouTubers that attract younger audiences, like Yogs and SSundee.
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You rang?
...oh. Erm, I guess you didn't. Oh well, it looks like I'm needed anyway:
This thread is not an appropriate place to snipe at other members. For that matter, the FTB Forums are not an appropriate place to snipe at other members. For now, only words and posts are going missing. If this sort of behavior continues, it will be people.
You have been warned. Be Nice. See also, my signature.
You have been warned. Be Nice. See also, my signature.
It made me re-evaluate my use of the mod. Patreon is cool. Closed testing is understandable. Putting a pay wall up is acceptable but I dont have to like it or respect it. Which I don't.There are less "attacks" on Reika because RotaryCraft doesn't appeal to the same audience (those who wish to have a realistic gameplay experience).
We've mentioned the number game in this last page... here's some more. Let us say that a popular mod has 10 000 active players. Out of those active players, 5% have a legit issue with something about the mod (I'm being very generous... I have an "issue" with half of the mods I play with). Out of that remaining 500 people if even only 20% decide to vocalize complaints somewhere that still equates to 100 people's complaints (not bug reports) over various social networks/forums. No matter how many people are perfectly content to sit back and contentedly play the mod, that ends up being "the big number" to the dev.
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This irked me a lot. I even went looking for this "posted" beta; I was confounded until I remembered the Patreon thing. The patrons already know they have it... this is just an insult really
I only use Railcraft for the aesthetic stone blocks. I love the reinforced glass, but I find it silly that you need silk touch to get the block back. The recipe requires Iron and other things. But that's just me. It's not worth using the mod anymore to me. But again, that's just my view.
It's a beta version for testers. Those testers happen to be patrons. I don't really see an issue with this. If it means a more stable Railcraft release for the rest of us, whatever.
Except open betas is a standard in this community. Hell, there are mods without ANY stable versions out there that a lot of us use. What I normally expect is a closed beta, no beta or an open beta, not a pay-to-get-in beta.
Covert needs to get with the times. That kind of crap just ain't acceptable anymore.
Why is it not acceptable? Surely he should be allowed to distribute his mod however he pleases?
... It's his mod. He has rights to how he distributes it. It's not even the full mod. What's so bad/annoying about that?
They pay for it, it's them that should be annoyed.
Though seriously, it's a somewhat working way to ensure more dedication and reliability: if you've invested into getting the beta, you're less likely to want to post trolly, halfhearted, or plain stupid bug reports.
Though seriously, it's a somewhat working way to ensure more dedication and reliability: if you've invested into getting the beta, you're less likely to want to post trolly, halfhearted, or plain stupid bug reports.
Like I said, it just means that the public version will be more stable.
Just because it's his mod doesn't stop us from being annoyed about his policies. While most other mods give us beta and in a few cases even alpha versions for absolutely free, RC betas only go to donators. It's the difference between what he's doing and the standard that's so annoying.
Although...
This is true. There are certainly better ways to do it, such as closed beta.
I still don't understand this. Why should he be made to follow the standard? Perhaps he wants to actually get something back from his mod? Is that so bad?
He can do what he wants. Its fine. I personally find it off putting but that's a just a personal preference. I've got other qualms but its not worth mentioning unless it becomes a larger issue. I never intended to incite a rant.
Allow me to derail and talk about EnderTech and the awesome RD version of the Equal Trade focus. It is very awesome and brings a tech version of a must have building tool, at least IMO.
Allow me to derail and talk about EnderTech and the awesome RD version of the Equal Trade focus. It is very awesome and brings a tech version of a must have building tool, at least IMO.
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Why do I disagree?
Because I can't pay for it. It isn't fair to those who don't have enough money or can't donate.
Also, it does not make a more stable release, an open beta would have more bugs reported because there are more people using it.
I'm far from the opinion that a paywall should be used, or tolerated for that matter.
Reason #Cookies I need to learn to mod: Removing all the donor-only features for my personal use.
Because I can't pay for it. It isn't fair to those who don't have enough money or can't donate.
Also, it does not make a more stable release, an open beta would have more bugs reported because there are more people using it.
I'm far from the opinion that a paywall should be used, or tolerated for that matter.
Reason #Cookies I need to learn to mod: Removing all the donor-only features for my personal use.
Also, if it adds Fabricators we have all of XyCraft back. Yay!
Only thing it needs is Unity textures. Although honestly EVERY mod could use Unity textures.
My status.Also, if it adds Fabricators we have all of XyCraft back. Yay!
Only thing it needs is Unity textures. Although honestly EVERY mod could use Unity textures.
... please don't take this personally it's just an example... but what makes you so special? He doesn't have to give you his mod. he can give it to whoever he damn well pleases, he worked hard on coding all of that. This kinda reeks of self-entitlement.
..nothing makes me so special, everyone should have it at the same time, with exceptions of course. I'm fine with closed betas and dev versions out for testing for the author's freinds, but I will never tolerate a paywall beta.