My steve has done some pretty unspeakable acts. So I'd say he's probably not a hero. And it's probably a good thing he was created without vocal chords.
Opinions on Microsoft buying Mojang
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Well, hero from the perspective that he's the protagonist/he's your character.
I think there are plenty of RPG characters out there who merit the qualifier.
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I do apologize. I may have riled people up due to having a firm opposite opinion then some. I never once wanted to attack anyone on a personal level. I just wanted to discuss\debate opinion while understanding the oposite opinion and agree/disagreeing with said opinions, not the individuals on a personal level.
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*hands squitchy a potato of acceptance*
edit: *then realizes he no longer has dinner* *dies*
edit: *then realizes he no longer has dinner* *dies*
I think he is trying to say that one night Etho or SSundee seated in front a PC, recorded a youtube video and it was SO GOOD, that the next day they had millions of subscribers. They never did shity videos and learn from that and grown in the last couple years. Nope, they just started yesterday!!
Also, the rest of Mindcrack youtubers might be very very bad at making LP's, since their videos were also removed....
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I didn't say that. I was saying that Ssundee has the entertainment value and acting skills that people like Nintendo would want and sponsor for LP's of their games. Minecraft is the only exception due to the ability of freely advertising. I garentee SSundees videos were always good, and developed a fanbase day one. If not, he would have always had a 10 man fanbase. When it comes to entertaining you either have it or you don't. You can't wake up an entertainer, or learn how to become one, you just are. It's no problem though. I can see how my opinion is flawed and has room for improvement.[DOUBLEPOST=1411416146][/DOUBLEPOST]Anyway let's forget that previous debate. It went no where fast, and just upset everyone. I honestly don't wanna talk about it since my opinion will find a way to offend others.
I didn't say that. I was saying that Ssundee has the entertainment value and acting skills that people like Nintendo would want and sponsor for LP's of their games. Minecraft is the only exception due to the ability of freely advertising. I garentee SSundees videos were always good, and developed a fanbase day one. If not, he would have always had a 10 man fanbase. When it comes to entertaining you either have it or you don't. You can't wake up an entertainer, or learn how to become one, you just are. It's no problem though. I can see how my opinion is flawed and has room for improvement.[DOUBLEPOST=1411416146][/DOUBLEPOST]Anyway let's forget that previous debate. It went no where fast, and just upset everyone. I honestly don't wanna talk about it since my opinion will find a way to offend others.
Let me explain what Nintendo did!
They signed a contract with a youtuber, where the youtuber will be one of the few allowed to record a game, giving him privileged access to a content that others dont have, increasing his views per video but with the condition of not pointing the flaws of the game. Money might also be included in the agreement... They also forbidden everyone else to record since they they would not obliged by contract to not talk bad about the product.
It wasnt a case of being good or bad videos, since no one sees the bad videos. Was just a way of censure the youtubers and not allow the public to know that the game was not good. Even worst, they hired one youtuber that is trusted by a lot of viewers to deceive them into buying a bad game! Thank god, other youtubers didnt accepted the agreement and didnt soul their souls to Nintendo!
This is so wrong in some MANY levels that I cant understand how you are able to point a finger at Microsoft and at the same time support Nintendo...
Just another tip of who might be worst, Nintendo was the number 1 or 2 biggest game company 15-20 years ago along with Sega. Microsoft was just making Windows and office. See where is each one now!
They signed a contract with a youtuber, where the youtuber will be one of the few allowed to record a game, giving him privileged access to a content that others dont have, increasing his views per video but with the condition of not pointing the flaws of the game. Money might also be included in the agreement... They also forbidden everyone else to record since they they would not obliged by contract to not talk bad about the product.
It wasnt a case of being good or bad videos, since no one sees the bad videos. Was just a way of censure the youtubers and not allow the public to know that the game was not good. Even worst, they hired one youtuber that is trusted by a lot of viewers to deceive them into buying a bad game! Thank god, other youtubers didnt accepted the agreement and didnt soul their souls to Nintendo!
This is so wrong in some MANY levels that I cant understand how you are able to point a finger at Microsoft and at the same time support Nintendo...
Just another tip of who might be worst, Nintendo was the number 1 or 2 biggest game company 15-20 years ago along with Sega. Microsoft was just making Windows and office. See where is each one now!
Not that it matters and I don't want to start a flame war but who was said youtuber?
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See this is one of those things. Dammed if I do dammed if it don't. I could lie to myself and agree with you just for the sake of calmness, or I can state how I truly feel, stick up for Nintendo, and say the opposite of your opinion. Pretty soon everyone is back to arguing and taking opinions to a personal level. This is my fault, I realize that. I made the mistake when I brought Nintendo into this thread, not even close to the topic. Again my fault.
Mate, you have all the right to love Nintendo and defend them. It just doesnt make much sense criticizing a company for mistakes while you defend another for equal mistakes.
In my opinion, all companies have defects and virtues at the same time. We just need to accept that and learn to live with that. And that is what I usually do, I dont like the fruit company but I accept them and kinda ignore them since I know my favourite companies also have flaws. What is harder is to hear opinions of people criticizing a company they dont like while their favourite company is equal or worse.
edit: Its kinda the same if my favourite soccer team bribed the referee it was ok and I would pretend it never happened but if my rival team did it I would be in the streets rioting and asking for them to be banished...
Just to dispel any misunderstandings: We (talking on behalf of the moderators here) aren't against unpopular opinions, we're just opposed to name-calling and otherwise attacking the people who disagree with you. I think the first line of my signature puts it best:
"Remember, everyone has a right to their opinion, but they may only be expressed with respect."
We (the moderators) don't mind one bit if you hate Microsoft and love Nintendo, hate Thermal Expansion and love Dartcraft, or hate Monster but love DireWolf20 pack; as long as you are expressing that opinion respectfully and are also respecting others' right to have different opinions, we're cool.
This post (the second one in the thread) gives a great example of how a respectful conversation can go, as opposed to a disrespectful conversation would. Basically keep in mind that your opinion is yours and everyone has a right to their own opinion that may very well differ from yours. Attacking them for having a different opinion is inappropriate.
"Remember, everyone has a right to their opinion, but they may only be expressed with respect."
We (the moderators) don't mind one bit if you hate Microsoft and love Nintendo, hate Thermal Expansion and love Dartcraft, or hate Monster but love DireWolf20 pack; as long as you are expressing that opinion respectfully and are also respecting others' right to have different opinions, we're cool.
This post (the second one in the thread) gives a great example of how a respectful conversation can go, as opposed to a disrespectful conversation would. Basically keep in mind that your opinion is yours and everyone has a right to their own opinion that may very well differ from yours. Attacking them for having a different opinion is inappropriate.
I watched the Polaris Co-optional podcast last week, and the MS acquisition of MC was a talking point. They really start discussing it shortly after 2:01:30
Jesse made an interesting point. He basically said that if MC does now die a slow death (which others have said it may already be doing as there are other voxel sandbox games out there or coming out), MS will get the blame, whether they contributed to it or not.
TB also pointed out that the number of MC videos on Youtube was staggering, and the number of views that they gained was significant. I don't know the full history, so I could have my information wrong here, but I think that the yogscast is only really successful because they managed to be one of the early LP's of MC on Youtube. I believe that there is some debate about whether MC became popular because of the Yogscast, or if the Yogscast became popular because of MC.
If MS are sensible, they will realise that MC isn't just popular because of it as a game, it's popular because of the community around it, because of the mods. The less they do to alienate that community, the longer lasting the game will be.
Jesse made an interesting point. He basically said that if MC does now die a slow death (which others have said it may already be doing as there are other voxel sandbox games out there or coming out), MS will get the blame, whether they contributed to it or not.
TB also pointed out that the number of MC videos on Youtube was staggering, and the number of views that they gained was significant. I don't know the full history, so I could have my information wrong here, but I think that the yogscast is only really successful because they managed to be one of the early LP's of MC on Youtube. I believe that there is some debate about whether MC became popular because of the Yogscast, or if the Yogscast became popular because of MC.
If MS are sensible, they will realise that MC isn't just popular because of it as a game, it's popular because of the community around it, because of the mods. The less they do to alienate that community, the longer lasting the game will be.
If thousands of us know this, if MC developers know this, pretty sure they know this(or at least, with the wages they pay to some experts to advise them, they have the obligation to know this
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The funny thing... I never saw a video from them! I heard about them, search for Yogcast and seen so much different content that I couldn't find the one that was the really good one that everyone talks about.
Now... Beef and Etho... My HEROES!
And Sev, but that is on Twitch, not youtube...
I got into Minecraft because a friend bought it for me as a random gift back in the beta days. XD
When something happens, it's easy to criticize what happened and analyze the facts.
When something might happen, it's not as easy to do the same. Each person has a unique mixture of life experiences that have brought that person to their own conclusion.
In both cases, that same life experiences/knowledge base for each unique individual will alter the perceived outcome of that analysis, thus both cases are completely fallible in anyone else's eyes. It's why debate exists to form new opinions about all the facts.
The hardest thing to do is to realize that your opinion/understanding is not complete, have someone inform you of that fact, your brain connecting the dots, and then agreeing with it (doesn't always happen obviously), and the a ha moment happens, but then your ego prevents you from admitting you were wrong for whatever reason.
Past, present, future, nobody can know everything. It's what makes our complicated world so interesting. It's the differences that make us what we are.
I'm under an opinion that has not been swayed yet, that M$ will do something bad. what it will be, I don't know. But I've seen enough optimism so far to realize that it's not fake optimism, but instead optimism fueled by understanding. Thus, I've decided to take a wait and see approach on how things go. Pitchforks at the ready.
We need a defcon type name to call this. Are we at withercon 3 or 4 today?
When something might happen, it's not as easy to do the same. Each person has a unique mixture of life experiences that have brought that person to their own conclusion.
In both cases, that same life experiences/knowledge base for each unique individual will alter the perceived outcome of that analysis, thus both cases are completely fallible in anyone else's eyes. It's why debate exists to form new opinions about all the facts.
The hardest thing to do is to realize that your opinion/understanding is not complete, have someone inform you of that fact, your brain connecting the dots, and then agreeing with it (doesn't always happen obviously), and the a ha moment happens, but then your ego prevents you from admitting you were wrong for whatever reason.
Past, present, future, nobody can know everything. It's what makes our complicated world so interesting. It's the differences that make us what we are.
I'm under an opinion that has not been swayed yet, that M$ will do something bad. what it will be, I don't know. But I've seen enough optimism so far to realize that it's not fake optimism, but instead optimism fueled by understanding. Thus, I've decided to take a wait and see approach on how things go. Pitchforks at the ready.
We need a defcon type name to call this. Are we at withercon 3 or 4 today?