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SeaWind5982

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Drastic took my idea, Woot! glad i could give some good advice and i might reset my world and see what it feels like to play from the beginning again.
 
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mitchthequaker

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Hmm what does the Chaos topaz do? I've used the onyx and i think that the fury spell can replace it and am doing a second play through.
 

TheElectricCake

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Alrighty, I'm messing around with the latest update and it's not too bad. It's still possible to get totally screwed at the start (I came through the first portal and met up with some kind of giant living tree that kicked my butt hard), but once you have an area around your base well lit out a good distance (light ALL the caves!) things become a little less terrifying.

Also, spectres drop obsidian. MAKE A LITTLE OBSIDIAN BIRDHOUSE IN YOUR SOUL//// BASE. Some things will still come and mess you up hard, but ehhhhh.

I have two questions that I have simply not been able to figure out due to lack of progression:

1. How do you unlock sugar cane in the dark power tab? No way to start some of the other quests without books, which means paper! I have yet to unlock this puppy.

2. Do you ever get hearts in any of the questlines? Or is this 'hardcore with 3 lives, never more than that, no matter what?'

It seems to me that once you progress further in the questlines, you are less likely to NEED hearts, as you get better armor/damage capabilities, but starting out a bad "8th day" can wreck you.

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3. Should I restart my let's play given how drastically the epic siege monsters mod changes things?

Thoughts?
 

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Alrighty, I'm messing around with the latest update and it's not too bad. It's still possible to get totally screwed at the start (I came through the first portal and met up with some kind of giant living tree that kicked my butt hard), but once you have an area around your base well lit out a good distance (light ALL the caves!) things become a little less terrifying.

Also, spectres drop obsidian. MAKE A LITTLE OBSIDIAN BIRDHOUSE IN YOUR SOUL//// BASE. Some things will still come and mess you up hard, but ehhhhh.

I have two questions that I have simply not been able to figure out due to lack of progression:

1. How do you unlock sugar cane in the dark power tab? No way to start some of the other quests without books, which means paper! I have yet to unlock this puppy.

2. Do you ever get hearts in any of the questlines? Or is this 'hardcore with 3 lives, never more than that, no matter what?'

It seems to me that once you progress further in the questlines, you are less likely to NEED hearts, as you get better armor/damage capabilities, but starting out a bad "8th day" can wreck you.

Also,

3. Should I restart my let's play given how drastically the epic siege monsters mod changes things?

Thoughts?
For sugar cane do the seed turn in next to it. I haven't seen a reward with a heart yet so for youtubers I would highly suggest softcore. As for the LP you started I would leave that up to you.
 

SeaWind5982

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i would wait a few more updates before the LP, things have been changing in the modpack so for now it might be stable but its only just released so there might be a bug or something that might have to be fixed quickly.
 

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i would wait a few more updates before the LP, things have been changing in the modpack so for now it might be stable but its only just released so there might be a bug or something that might have to be fixed quickly.
While you're not necessarily wrong, there's another thing to consider. If TheElectricCake is attempting to monetize their videos, early releases make the most money; that is, whoever releases an LP of the pack the first is the one who is likely to get the most views, and therefore makes the most money. On the other hand, this of course is harder since the pack is presently in flux and hence may not have any relevance to the version the viewers are likely to play at whatever point in time, which may make the videos somewhat useless. It's a tough balancing act!
 

SeaWind5982

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True i think the most perfect time would be when the flux for the mobs is fixed which i find is the only problem atm with the pack, if he could fix the flux on the passive / aggressive mobs so they spawn how they want it i think it would be one of the most amazing packs yet.
 

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For sugar cane do the seed turn in next to it. I haven't seen a reward with a heart yet so for youtubers I would highly suggest softcore. As for the LP you started I would leave that up to you.

*HEADDESK* I've never done that one because, yanno, you get one wheat seed by doing the dirt + bone meal, and I just expanded it using the grow spell so I just never bothered with the Dark Power quest. Silly me! That should've been obvious. :) Thank you.

While you're not necessarily wrong, there's another thing to consider. If TheElectricCake is attempting to monetize their videos, early releases make the most money; that is, whoever releases an LP of the pack the first is the one who is likely to get the most views, and therefore makes the most money. On the other hand, this of course is harder since the pack is presently in flux and hence may not have any relevance to the version the viewers are likely to play at whatever point in time, which may make the videos somewhat useless. It's a tough balancing act!

True i think the most perfect time would be when the flux for the mobs is fixed which i find is the only problem atm with the pack, if he could fix the flux on the passive / aggressive mobs so they spawn how they want it i think it would be one of the most amazing packs yet.

Interesting insights! I am NOT a "professional youtuber" and I'm doing Let's Play videos because (1) it looked like fun, (2) I like sharing what I learn, and (3) I've seen other youtube let's play videos where the commenters suggested things to do/try/figure out and I thought that might expand my horizons by causing me to try things that I just wasn't seeing as possible/opportunities (the seed quest above is a PERFECT example...I had a "blind spot" for that quest because I'd already gotten a wheat seed somewhere else!).

So I'm doing it primarily for fun, and it'd be cool if people enjoyed it/suggested things, but no, I am not figuring on monetizing it. I am small fry, nobody's idea of an expert player and I know it.

But it seems a neat way to learn/try things. :)
 

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Found a bug; the quest book reputation doesn't register immediately. I tried to make some wood with one of the quests and it gave me the display of my reputation. However, it wouldn't let me claim the reward until I updated my reputation by killing a zombie.
 

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Found a bug; the quest book reputation doesn't register immediately. I tried to make some wood with one of the quests and it gave me the display of my reputation. However, it wouldn't let me claim the reward until I updated my reputation by killing a zombie.
It updates when you close and reopen the book. It is an HQM bug that I unfortunately cannot fix.
 

SeaWind5982

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It updates when you close and reopen the book. It is an HQM bug that I unfortunately cannot fix.

A modpack maker is only as good as the mods he puts into the game i say and if the quality of mods i think the work you've done so far is amazing compared to the early stages i find some of the other modpacks i played.
 

mitchthequaker

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My main problem with this pack since the 8 day update is that setting up a base is almost bad i keep getting killed while in an inventory because spawning is ignoring light levels, the most resent one i was in my chest and a death creeper blew up all of my chests and burnt nearly half my resources.
 

TheElectricCake

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My main problem with this pack since the 8 day update is that setting up a base is almost bad i keep getting killed while in an inventory because spawning is ignoring light levels, the most resent one i was in my chest and a death creeper blew up all of my chests and burnt nearly half my resources.

I have been experimenting with the new version with the 8 days, and there's basically 2 things that you need to do:

First, pay attention to when the 8th day comes. When you notice a mob uptick, set a dang timer for the next one!

Second, when the 8th day comes, you need to be noobpillared up to a little midair bunker. I like a 3x3 floor with a hole in the middle of the floor, walls at eye level (not foot level!) around the edges. Why? Because that way you can hit them when they try to noobpillar up into you.

As you run around in the game you will run into phantoms/spectres/whatever, and grues. These mobs drop obsidian. Start replacing your cobble-bunker with obsidian ASAP!

Light up everything. EVERYTHING. Mobs do NOT spawn under normal light rules except on every 8th day, so in the meantime you can keep yourself fairly well protected just by lighting up all the nearby caves. Any time a zombie or skeleton digs into your base, follow its trail out, find where it spawned, and LIGHT THAT SUCKER UP.

As for getting killed while in inventory/chests...All I can say is be really careful about where/when you do that, don't spend much time in it, pop out every couple of seconds to glance around. Think like you're on a PVP server.

I've already got to diamond level in my 'test' game so I am going to go ahead and restart my Let's Play with a focus on "Surviving Starting Hell."
 
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SeaWind5982

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I think if with the this new addition of many creepers i did the smart and maybe easy way out and turned mob griefing off why because i don't wanna lose half my chests to a random out of no where creeper other than that i haven't had a problem with mobs since. But i like the pillar idea would ladders affect them climbing up to my small area base or should i just pillar up whenever the 8th day hits?
 

TheElectricCake

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I think if with the this new addition of many creepers i did the smart and maybe easy way out and turned mob griefing off why because i don't wanna lose half my chests to a random out of no where creeper other than that i haven't had a problem with mobs since. But i like the pillar idea would ladders affect them climbing up to my small area base or should i just pillar up whenever the 8th day hits?

You know, my tree farm has had a slow enough take-off that I didn't even consider ladders. We know mobs CAN go up ladders, so it just seems reasonable to consider them a bad idea.

What I just did a minute ago to ease things was make a staircase with a jumpable distance at the top to my 'safe room', then when I go in I break the top block of the staircase. Also, once you get to the point of having enough obsidian to make your safe room out of obsidian, you don't really even need the whole in the floor unless you just want to farm Dark Power. ;)

P.S. you can also put a hole in the ceiling, just stick a fencepost in it so mobs can't jump down while you hack at them.
 
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TheElectricCake

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1.1.1 has been released
  • Clarified how to use the bed.
  • Geonach no longer spawn from breaking rocks, they naturally spawn underground now.
I'm still having trouble using the bed in circumstances which otherwise seem fine...No mobs in range on the map, well lit, plains biome...No message at all when I click on it. I don't get a 'spawn point set' or anything.

I've also fought 4 geonachs since this update, which spawned when I was breaking coal (2), garnet (1) and diamond (1).

Something isn't right. >_>
 

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I'm still having trouble using the bed in circumstances which otherwise seem fine...No mobs in range on the map, well lit, plains biome...No message at all when I click on it. I don't get a 'spawn point set' or anything.

I've also fought 4 geonachs since this update, which spawned when I was breaking coal (2), garnet (1) and diamond (1).

Something isn't right. >_>
I've had them as well from iron, coal, chaos ore, topaz and maybe one or 2 other ores. The bed works it might just have to be night though but it actually let me sleep and set spawn.
EDIT: Add heliodor to that list
 
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TheElectricCake

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It'd be useful if we got some variety of error message:
"You can only sleep at night."
Etc. The way it usually works, right?

Anyone know if you can use sunlight detectors in a caveworld? Sure would be nice.