Oh, ok. I thought you meant a whole new mod called Alkahestry! When you said Alkahestry, I was like, Xeno? And then you said mod, and I was like, huh?
Non-renewable Items?
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Alright, sorry about that, I derped, I haven't used Xeno's yet, and I thought they were different mods for a minute. Well, the only non-renewable vanilla items are now cobwebs and Endstone. That's impressive, though I think, if spiders are out somewhere long enough without being despawned, cobwebs should form. Endstone isn't as much as a problem because of asteroids and how common they are compared to their actual uses.
Doesn't Fortune enchant on Sickles make more saplings drop out of trees? Because then, every tree, including Greatwood and Silverwood are renewable, because with a Fortune III Sickle, where one sapling would drop, you'd now get 3.
If you dont consider regular saplings renewable (I do) then fortune doesn't make them "renewable" as its still a chance
What are the odds three saplings in a row giving you no saplings whatsoever? I'd say fortune on a Sickle gets that percentage chance so low it's damn near impossible.
Also, Grafters guarantee you at least one sapling as long as you have 1 piece of bronze, and bees make bronze renewable (there's tin and copper bees). Doesn't work on mod trees(except forestry and rubber trees), but work on every vanilla tree, so the chance goes away for those. Leaving us with Greatwood and Silverwood, which, using Fortune on a Sickle, makes them more or less renewable. Chance is so low you won't get a sapling out of three saplings it doesn't have to be factored in.
I think it's pretty clear that regular saplings are renewable, but Silverwoods are not. Statistically you are overwhelmingly likely to end up with more regular saplings than you started with; whereas you are highly likely to run out of Silverwood saplings if you just farm one tree over and over. Maybe add two new sub-categories, "Statistically renewable", and "Statistically non-renewable".
I once started a Skyblock 2.0 level and didn't get a sapling from the tree. That is somewhat unusual, I think, but it is a very small tree.
I once started a Skyblock 2.0 level and didn't get a sapling from the tree. That is somewhat unusual, I think, but it is a very small tree.
I think this has been covered before in this thread - that only works on Forestry saplings, not vanilla ones, so technically you're replacing the item with a different one.
Yes, but you can Treealyze the vanilla saplings and then the grafter starts working with them once again. So you can have a forestry "birch" and a forestry "oak", which is the apple oak. Also jungle trees, etc... IIRC doesn't work on ExtraBiomesXL trees. It may or may not work with the Acacia tree.
So you can replace your "Oak" saplings with "Apple Oak" saplings, but those are a different item. There may be no discernable difference, but for instance I don't know if Forestry saplings can be used in Thaumcraft research, and they certainly can't be stored in the same barrel as a vanilla sapling.
p.s. how lucky we are that there aren't "Vanilla Trees", i.e. trees that actually produce vanilla pods, that would be confusing.
p.s. how lucky we are that there aren't "Vanilla Trees", i.e. trees that actually produce vanilla pods, that would be confusing.
With the addition of Minefactory Reloaded to Ultimate, you can get a infinite supply of quicksand(and cracked sand, but that's not on your list) with the Sludge Boiler, which consumes BC power and MFR Sludge, which is produced from using a Harvester to harvest anything it can harvest.
Also, I'm not sure why the XyCraft section says you can only have sulfur goo in infinite supply. It also adds two crops, Henquin and Corn, both of which can be grown from seeds gathered from tall grass, which means they are infinite if bonemeal is, or even if you harvest them when fully grown.(corn is broken best from the bottom, often yielding 2-3 seeds for replanting)
Also, I'm not sure why the XyCraft section says you can only have sulfur goo in infinite supply. It also adds two crops, Henquin and Corn, both of which can be grown from seeds gathered from tall grass, which means they are infinite if bonemeal is, or even if you harvest them when fully grown.(corn is broken best from the bottom, often yielding 2-3 seeds for replanting)
Okay, so with a Fortune Sickle, Silverwoods are pretty much renewable. With Xeno's, Endstone is renewable. And there's Henquin and Corn.
Awesome, I'll update it now.
EVERY SINGLE VANILLA ITEM IN THE GAME IS RENEWABLE.
Wow. *claps*
Awesome, I'll update it now.
EVERY SINGLE VANILLA ITEM IN THE GAME IS RENEWABLE.
Wow. *claps*
Henequin makes String right? Flax is much more efficient for that =S
Henequen gives you 1 henequen leaf per growth, then you need 4 of those to craft 1 piece of string... Flax when fully grown, can give you 3 or 4 strings, much, much better.
Cobwebs, not renewable yet. You can only harvest them through silk touch on shears. AFAIK there's no other way to craft them in-game, but i wouldn't be surprised if some mod added a way. 8 strings in a chest pattern, or 9 strings to get you a cobweb? Maybe even Mojang will add a way someday. I mean, they're pretty cool for decoration, and they also work very well in traps and redstone contraptions that rely on falling blocks. Like the Boat clock.
Well, I know that Henequin's not nearly as good as Flax, but I don't think we're talking about the string it produces. I think we're talking about the Henequin itself (though it should be part of the oreclause).
Anyways, string's renewable multiple ways, and Henequin is renewable, so they have both been removed from the list.
And yes, webs need to be added. Maybe if they turned up every once in a while, like in already generated chunks randomly and rarely at night only while you're sleeping, that could be cool too, because Steve can't really...make webs. But I don't think Steve can make a suit that lets you fly with, well, basic materials, either.
Silverwoods are defiantly NOT renewable. Fortune has /no effect/ on them. You get about ~0.6 saplings per tree grown, so over time you WILL run out.
Considering the things Steve can make with almost no tools, I'd say making spider webs from string would be low on the list of things that stress the suspension of disbelief.
Can anyone confirm this? People up in the posts above were discussing the ability of Fortune on Sickles on Silverwood. I'll have to test this out myself.
Oh yeah? Name 183.