New OP Forestry engine .. forget the rest

[Sengir]

Ah, yes. SirSengir, if you do find a way to prevent turtles from automating it, can you make it a config option?

No.

 

[PonyKuu]

Oh... SirSengir, why do you worry so much about it? I don't want to use it that way, but I don't feel that it's such a big exploit - more like fun thing, not a serious contraption.

 

[Revemohl]

It's funny how this thread starts with people complaining about almost free power, then turns into people complaining about how there's no way to automate that almost free power.
I'm perfectly okay with this engine, 4 gold and 1 redstone isn't as easy to get as the materials for a stirling or hobbyist's steam engine, but it's so beautifully early game that I don't mind. I mean, since it stops working after some time you don't even need to worry about pipes exploding because you didn't turn it off! And it provides just enough MJ/tick to get your early TE setup working well.

 

[Omicron]

Yeah honestly... what keeps those people who want to automate their entire base with turtles from using turtles to automate any of the one dozen other engine types, all of which are perfectly suited for automation? Liquid carrying turtles pouring lava into magmatic engines? Other turtles carrying coal to hobbyist steam engines? REther turtles activating or deactivating redstone engines via wireless command? It's all possible, and so much cooler than "plop down turtle, write one-line loop, free energy forever". Unless of course that is really what you are after, and the turtle automation thing is just a cover story...

 

[Eyamaz]

Actually I wanted to figure out the timing to have a couple of these powering some pulverizers and some powered furnaces with a single turtle having to crank the crank on this as well as moving the ores/dusts manually.

But think what you wish.

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[Redweevil]

Clockwork Engines: The ultimate way of transforming friends into fuel

 

[PhilHibbs]

"can't be automated" -sigh-
I wish more authors would let us do what we want. :/ Sure it's their mod, but people should be allowed to play the game easier if they want to play the game easy.

There are plenty of engines that can be automated. All of them in fact. He's added one more engine, and its fundamental concept is that it is a manual one. Why complain about additional content? You want an way of generating MJ with a turtle? If it's running in no fuel mode, then a turtle should be able to produce no more power than a Redstone engine. If it's using fuel, it should produce no more power than putting the fuel into any fuel-powered engine.

A turtle as a mobile engine is an interesting idea though. An "Engine" peripheral that generates MJ from the turtle's fuel supply.

 

[Chocorate]

There are plenty of engines that can be automated. All of them in fact. He's added one more engine, and its fundamental concept is that it is a manual one. Why complain about additional content? You want an way of generating MJ with a turtle? If it's running in no fuel mode, then a turtle should be able to produce no more power than a Redstone engine. If it's using fuel, it should produce no more power than putting the fuel into any fuel-powered engine.

A turtle as a mobile engine is an interesting idea though. An "Engine" peripheral that generates MJ from the turtle's fuel supply.

I am absolutely in love with your idea of the engine turtle.

To be honest, I was wrong about the engine, I was just hoping the author wasn't going to try to control what we did with turtles. It's actually a great engine and I love the mechanic. Now I have the Pocket Crafting Table, Clockwork Engine, Quartz Grindstone, and Powered Furnace, that i can travel with. Though I'd have to say may favorite use is puling items out of chests really quickly.

And although I don't agree with its recipe, I just give myself a starting pack of all those mobile utilities at the start of each game. It may be cheating, but I enjoy a head start.

 

[Omicron]

I think the Buildcraft engine turtle should be called "Michael Jackson Turtle" and execute every movement command backwards.

 

[Chocorate]

I think the Buildcraft engine turtle should be called "Michael Jackson Turtle" and execute every movement command backwards.

"We're producing a lot of MichaelJacksons right now with our engines"

 

[brujon]

I think it's perfectly okay that SirSengir is making the engine unable to receive automation. This engine is clearly intended as a starter renewable resource engine, for those who want to skip using coal/charcoal. 2,250 MJ per wind-up like b0bster mentioned is pretty good, that means you can fill a Redstone Energy Cell in about 267 total wind-ups. About 30 minutes of clicking, if every wind-up lasts for 7 seconds. For those who have small children, this is great. Children love repetitive tasks like helping their dads out clicking mindlessly on a block.

Joke aside, 2250 MJ in a wind up, which was mentioned to last about 7 seconds, means that this engine generates about 16MJ/t. That's insanely good. Industrial Steam Engines can only output 8 MJ/t each, which means that if b0bster is right on the numbers, this generates the same output as TWO Industrial Steam Engines, even though it is for an extremely limited amount of time. It's perfect for when you don't have your automation set up yet, and are still manually feeding your ores and stuff to your pulverizer/powered furnace combo. Craftable after the first mining trip, along with your first machines, it enables you to completely bypass the common starter engines such as the stirling engine and the hobbyist's steam engine, and go straight to the mid-tier ones, such as the magmatic, commercial steam engine, biogas engine, combustion engine, etc...

 

[Bevo]

It goes for a lot longer than 7 seconds when I was playing with it today in my 1.5.1 game. It may stay at full speed for 7 seconds, not sure?

I tried it on an empty cell and it got just over 3k I believe before it wound down. I did not time it but it seemed about 30 to 45 seconds it was running. When you wind it up to where it is red it goes very fast and makes tons of power, but it slows down quite quickly and will stay in the slower colors for pretty long periods of time where it seems to be outputting around 1 mj/s (each time it pumps). When it is going faster is is putting out quite a lot more than that. Seems more like 1 mj/t but it doesn't stay at that speed for very long.

Also for those who love these crank type machines I forgot to mention AE's other wonderful Mining Grinder.

http://ae-mod.info/afwooden-crank/

 

[deandip]

Joke aside, 2250 MJ in a wind up, which was mentioned to last about 7 seconds, means that this engine generates about 16MJ/t.

It's not that good I'm afraid. At max, it outputs 1.5MJ/t. Still good for free energy though.

 

[b0bst3r]

Let me just clear up one thing and highlight it what I said

One full wind up gives about 2,250 MJ, which is just under half of a Pulverizer's energy capacity.

That's not 1 hit, that's hitting it continuously until it goes red which is wound up as far as it can go, then adding in something to send the power to, like in my tests I wound it up fully and then dropped an empty redstone energy cell next to it, then repeated that test and dropped a pulverisor next to it.

 

[PhilHibbs]

And, it can be "automated" with AutoIt or AutoHotkey.

 

[Chocorate]

That's fake I thought?

 

[Gun_Shy]

Its cool that you can automate a grindstone with aturtle, but compared to the cost of a pulverizer this is a bit retarded. Same goes with the clockwork engine, i trust sengir enough to take care of the balance.

The funny thing is that most people who complain about the "OP-ness" of sth use a treefarm - steamboiler combo to power EVERYTHING.

I used to do that exact thing, but only to help me build fancy solar arrays. Once I got there, I said, "Screw the stirling engines!!!", and started powering all the buildcraft machines in my house with electrical engines. Now I only use my tree farm in combination with the minium stone to produce precious metals and diamonds. A good, honest way to make a living. So much better than having to leave my house. And with all the UU-Matter I'm also creating, I...am so...

Alone

*SOB* T_T

 

[Bigglesworth]

These actually output 2.5 MJ/t when red. So a lot more than slightly better than a redstone engine, and a little OP. 2 would be better..

Now I just need to hook up a machine that automatically right-clicks a couple dozen times it ever couple min.

 

[brujon]

Not if Sengir has anything to say about it... He explicitly said these are not meant to be automated and that he'd be shutting down anything he found that was able to do it...

 

[Wyld]

I have found a way to automate this.

Allow your children to play!