Factorization processing. Is it worth it? Also, a concept.
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It's the only method I know of which can triple ores consistently and easily. Fucking slower then molasses in liquid nitrogen, but it beats TE because it doesn't need you to process ~20 ores to be able to triple the output of one ore. Does it beat GregTech? I wouldn't bet on it. GT is stupid effective with it's Grinder. Even if you don't use special cells to increase your output, GT is fucking INSANE for that stuff. SO MUCH SECONDARY SWAG! ...Of course, when you have Nether Ores(in 1.4.7, anyway) you need to run 'dat shit through a TE line with Rich Slag. 3xore block processing combo!
Actually it's 300% lead and 230% silver per silver ore if i'm not mistaken.
Answer to question "Is it wort it" depends on two things:
1. If you run SSP (too long process) or SMP (not a problem with chunkloaders).
2. How many crystallizers are you running.
With enough crystallizers you can easily keep up with max speed quarry. At that point it's free +50% resources. That never hurts.
Also, in new version mixer is not necessary, as dirty chunk + bucket of water is regular shapeless recipe that is done much faster with Fabricators connected to water tank.
They also put in a steam boiler and it looks like wireless power transport of some time.
AND they changed the recipe for the crystallizer, no longer requires acid.
While I might be able to do away with the mixer... I already have them set up, and it would be a waste to ... waste?... them. lol And let us be real here, If I am only running 6 crystallizers per ore type, I'm not that worried about speed.
Do you know if Factorization can handle forge ores' now or not?
Well, it can only handle copper and tin in addition to vanilla ones/silver. There were some issues with slag furnace (only one copper and tin ore were able to be processed), but it was fixed a long time ago.
The Crystallizers are typically the bottleneck in a Factorization line. Instead of the usual, but pricey multiple-routers-per-Crystallizer setup, I made one CC turtle with an Inventory Upgrade (MiscPeripherals mod). He receives all the reduced ore chunks, then moves up/down the row of Crystallizers, choosing which one to best deposit into, but also which slot in each to minimize the processing time. Took a bit of Lua, of course, but not as much as you might think. It's still not instant turnaround of course, but we found the 300% returns to be worth the wait most of the time on our server.
Factorization is best for Silver and Tin, IMO, and inferior compared to GT in all others. GT triples-plus copper, iron, and gold, far quicker and with a bonus (except for iron, which has no bonus). While it doesn't do 3x Lead, factorization doesn't do lead ores at all. GT triples silver, but factorization gives 3x the ore in silver and 2x the ore in lead.
No, it requires Aqua Regia, which itself requires acid.
No, it requires Aqua Regia, which itself requires acid.
Again, it's 2.3x silver and 3x lead per silver ore, not the other way round. It's connected to factorization ore gen (no lead ore).
GT may be superior in total numbers of resources and speed, but geting some chamicals require constant digging. Considering that people have problems with mining a single vein of apatite to get fertilizer for weeks, i doubt many of them would sustain GT ore tripling.
Factorization is a lot less energy consuming with no maintanance required after initial startup. And Power Converters are a godsend (thanks PC).
GT may be superior in total numbers of resources and speed, but geting some chamicals require constant digging. Considering that people have problems with mining a single vein of apatite to get fertilizer for weeks, i doubt many of them would sustain GT ore tripling.
Factorization is a lot less energy consuming with no maintanance required after initial startup. And Power Converters are a godsend (thanks PC).
To my knowledge, prior to 1.5, at least, (I have no clue how this works in 1.5), crystallizers required that there be a bottle of Sulfuric Acid in its inventory, but it was not consumed. So one would just place some acid in the crystallizer, and not worry about replacing it.
As I said, I don't know how this all works in 1.5. However, I would be surprised if NeptunePink made it use a material that is consumed each crystallization cycle as a catalyst. That would make his ore processing system completely not worth it, in my opinion.
Also, in my setups in test worlds, I used seven routers PER METAL TYPE as described to feed the crystallizers, so one set for iron, another for gold, etc, for 42 routers and machine filters in total. The advantage to this, as opposed to using inventory turtles or similar, is that you can increase the speed of the system just by slapping on more crystallizers.
As I said, I don't know how this all works in 1.5. However, I would be surprised if NeptunePink made it use a material that is consumed each crystallization cycle as a catalyst. That would make his ore processing system completely not worth it, in my opinion.
Also, in my setups in test worlds, I used seven routers PER METAL TYPE as described to feed the crystallizers, so one set for iron, another for gold, etc, for 42 routers and machine filters in total. The advantage to this, as opposed to using inventory turtles or similar, is that you can increase the speed of the system just by slapping on more crystallizers.
No, it is not. You can repeat yourself again, but you're not correct.
Again, you're incorrect. Gold uses mercury, which is as common as picking thaumcraft flowers. Iron tripling uses bonemeal. Only copper has a hint of "digging", and that's because sodium comes from clay. There are several other sources of clay that have nothing to do with digging. (Besides which all the side benefits like lithium and aluminium)
The average person actually playing and not sitting in a creative world spawning items will have more than the necessary ingredients to match their ore intake. Even if they use quarries.
Yes i am, you get 160% of lead and 110% silver from clean galena chunks, go check in NEI yourself.
Ok, you can get mercury from flowers, but it's not an automated system isn't it? And only way to spawn those is with bees, which require more efford than it's worth. And i did wrote "some chamicals", not all.
I did. There is no such object as "Clean Galena Chunks"
Hint: Factorization is on 0.7.37.
It could be, all it takes is water on a timer. People do it for vanilla wheat farms all the time.