Did you banned turtles from your world yet ?

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ratchet freak

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Interesting concept, I bet someone attpemted to make self-replicating turtles
The only thing is, when a turtle places down another turtle it can't program it or execute commands on it can it?
using a disk-drive with a startup on the disk to let a newly placed turtle download it's code and start running and turtles can reboot other turtles
 

Azzanine

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Statement: Meat-bags can do this too, albeit in a incompetent and completely inefficient manner.
Suggestion: Maybe you meat-bags should be banned and not the turtles. They play the game better anyway.
 

jordsta95

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Dear OP. please amend the topic to

"Have you banned turtles from your world yet" or
"Did you ban turtles from your world yet".

"Did you banned..." is not correct.
Although I am a massive grammar nazi, I let stuff like this slide. As you know what the OP meant, and English may not be their first language... Just remember English is the hardest language that uses the Latin alphabet (abc...) And it is amongst the top 5 hardest languages in the world (after Russian, and IIRC Chinese, and maybe Arabic)
 

jordsta95

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Yeah, due to the lack of formal rules in our language. "I before E except after C... unless you are trying to spell the 900+ words that don't abide by this, not the 44 that do". Also we don't do structured. Is it? It is? both acceptable ways of asking the same question (for example).
Depending on the words' age depends on what language it comes from too... For example: Beef is the meat, but cow is the animal. Cow is a Germanic derived word, whereas beef comes from our French ancestry.
Then not to mention the "an or a" rule. I tried to explain this to someone yesterday who was on the right lines "You use an when the first letter of the next word is a vowel..." which is correct... almost... you can have an historical event or a historical event... both are correct (this is an example) so sometimes even rules that are almost always correct, aren't.
Because English stole a lot of grammatical rules from other languages in it's infancy (as languages go) we have so many odd rules that make no sense. Most languages either do <noun> <adjective> or <adjective> <noun> but because we are special we do it however it seems to fit us, just by moving words around: There was a red car/the car was red, both are in the past tense, both talk about a red car, both are grammatically correct in English. Put both of those sentences into other languages and they will be wrong, for example French say the car red, and I believe Germans say red car.

As far as languages go, we are probably the most confusing. Even people who have English as their first language get stuff wrong regularly... but because no one else knows if it's correct or not, we don't know the correct version.
 

Loufmier

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people don't tend to notice when they are brought up in the language

I don't find it difficult but I started learning rather early using subtitles
i guess it's true. i just thought there is a difficulty scale or something.

i also learned most of vocabulary from subtitles, but i never treated it like learning, i just wanted to play games :)

.... Most languages either do <noun> <adjective> or <adjective> <noun> but because we are special we do it however it seems to fit us, just by moving words around: There was a red car/the car was red, both are in the past tense, both talk about a red car, both are grammatically correct in English. Put both of those sentences into other languages and they will be wrong, for example French say the car red, and I believe Germans say red car. ...
interesting. however i don't think the car example is a good one. while both of the sentences are grammatically correct, the have different meaning:
there was a red car - this place used to be a red car, but now the car is gone
the car was red - the car used to be red, but now color is different.

they may have same meaning if there was a context for each sentence though.
 

jordsta95

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interesting. however i don't think the car example is a good one. while both of the sentences are grammatically correct, the have different meaning:
there was a red car - this place used to be a red car, but now the car is gone
the car was red - the car used to be red, but now color is different.

they may have same meaning if there was a context for each sentence though.
Yeah, my bad, if it was:
I was out the other day and there was a red car
or
I was out the other day and the car I saw was red

Then it'd probably make more sense... but you get the jist :p
 
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ljfa

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I was out the other day and there was a red car
or
I was out the other day and the car I saw was red
...und dort war ein rotes Auto
or
...und das Auto, das ich sah, war rot

pretty similar in German. But these sentences are still different: In the first one the "red car" is the subject, in the second one you are describing the "car".


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jordsta95

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...und dort war ein rotes Auto
or
...und das Auto, das ich sah, war rot

pretty similar in German. But these sentences are still different: In the first one the "red car" is the subject, in the second one you are describing the "car".


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I'm good at doing that :p

But I only remember very basic German;
Mein Deutsche ist Scheiss, und, Ich sprechen nicht Deutsche ;)
 
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jordsta95

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Woo English lessons.
IKR the lesson I hated most at school... I am a major English freak though, when people say something wrongly, etc. However, if it is obvious (which it usually is) when English isn't the person's first language, then I am more lenient :p
Also, I get told off a lot for this as I tell Americans that what they speak isn't English but a butchered attempt at the language. If it isn't the queens' then it isn't English ;)
 

pc_assassin

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IKR the lesson I hated most at school... I am a major English freak though, when people say something wrong, etc. However, if it is obvious (which it usually is), when English isn't the person's first language, then I am more lenient. :p
Also, I get told off a lot for this as I tell Americans that what they speak isn't English, but a butchered attempt at the language. If it isn't the queens', then it isn't English ;)

FTFY ;)


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jordsta95

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FTFY ;)


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No, in the position of the sentence I used it wrongly is more correct than wrong. You can do something wrong or do something wrongly. You can wrongly do something but not wrong do something. But grammatically speaking wrongly is more right than wrong unless you are saying what someone did is wrong, then wrong is right, and wrongly is wrong.

I feel like I may have confused someone... If so, I am now happy :)
 

pc_assassin

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No, in the position of the sentence I used it wrongly is more correct than wrong. You can do something wrong or do something wrongly. You can wrongly do something but not wrong do something. But grammatically speaking wrongly is more right than wrong unless you are saying what someone did is wrong, then wrong is right, and wrongly is wrong.

I feel like I may have confused someone... If so, I am now happy :)

Ah well fix your punctuation at least.
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Loufmier

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No, in the position of the sentence I used it wrongly is more correct than wrong. You can do something wrong or do something wrongly. You can wrongly do something but not wrong do something. But grammatically speaking wrongly is more right than wrong unless you are saying what someone did is wrong, then wrong is right, and wrongly is wrong.

I feel like I may have confused someone... If so, I am now happy :)
i think i got it, vaguely.
anyway, in my understanding:
saying something wrongly means saying something that isn't grammatically correct
saying something wrong means saying something bad or immoral
 

jordsta95

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i think i got it, vaguely.
anyway, in my understanding:
saying something wrongly means saying something that isn't grammatically correct
saying something wrong means saying something bad or immoral
No...
If I said you did a task wrongly then you didn't do the task right. If I said you did the task wrong, then it is an ungrammatical way of saying the same thing.
But if I said you did the wrong task, then you didn't do the right task, instead of you did the right task, but you didn't do it correctly (I feel I may be confusing people again)

But if you do something that IS wrong, then yes, it is bad and/or immoral. But you can say "he wrongly went about asking for coitus" would be he is doing something that is immoral, but you could say that sentence as "he went about asking for coitus the wrong way" which could mean he is doing something immoral, or he just is inept at asking for said pleasure :p


Ah well fix your punctuation at least.
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U got summit 2 sey bout mah punctuation, eh? say it t mah face! (That hurt to type)
What do you mean?
 
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