Blood N Bones [Hardcore Survival]

[Blargerist]

Note that it won't match the spreadsheet without the rounding fix. Here's a temporary test version with the rounding fix for you to try if you want to: SpiceOfLife-mc1.6.4-1.0.2-test.jar

Why thank you! In my opinion it would be better though, if there could be a config line to change the rounding type, rather than straight changing it from down to nearest integer in the mod files. Of course, it's entirely possible that I'm too obsessed with config options.

I just finished a round of testing on our current round down version using "MAX(0, 1 - MAX(0, (count-4)/5))".
Results:
Blueberry: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0
Apple Juice: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 0
Strawberry Smoothie: 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 2, 1, 1, 0
Apple Pie: 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 2, 1, 0
Hamburger: 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 5, 4, 2, 1, 0
Bacon Mushroom Burger: 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 0
What do you think @Eyamaz? A nice plateau for all foods, with a sharp drop-off for low tier foods, and a more gradual drop-off for the higher tier. I'll go see about one for the round to nearest integer file now....

 

[whyrl]

Geez. Take forever to register. ><

Anyway...@Eyamaz your new mining levels seem slightly off. There are two tiers of copper (1 and 2), and the Desichalkosr (sic) tier is completely excluded (attempted to break a desi block with the desi pick and it just wouldn't happen). It looks like the issue is caused somewhere in the relevel section.

Additionally, the mob heads only work on copper picks (maybe a result of the above issue?)

 

[Batch2]

Geez. Take forever to register. ><

Anyway...@Eyamaz your new mining levels seem slightly off. There are two tiers of copper (1 and 2), and the Desichalkosr (sic) tier is completely excluded (attempted to break a desi block with the desi pick and it just wouldn't happen). It looks like the issue is caused somewhere in the relevel section.

Additionally, the mob heads only work on copper picks (maybe a result of the above issue?)

I noticed the two tiers of copper thing and excluded one when updating the metals spreadsheet. I assumed it was intentional to avoid being able to boost a flint pickaxe to iron level. Currently when you boost a flint pickaxe it goes from copper 1 to copper 2.

You get the Desichalkosr level by boosting a desichalkosr pickaxe.

 

[whyrl]

You get the Desichalkosr level by boosting a desichalkosr pickaxe.

From the perspective of making you work for what you get, it's...eh...somewhat understandable, but not very logical. Every pick beyond flint EDIT:copper needs one boost to mine the very material it was made from, much less a second boost for the tier higher. That's going to get extremely annoying.

 

[ScorpioOld]

From the perspective of making you work for what you get, it's...eh...somewhat understandable, but not very logical. Every pick beyond flint EDIT:copper needs one boost to mine the very material it was made from, much less a second boost for the tier higher. That's going to get extremely annoying.

Annoying?! Think about losing your pick. You must keep at least one copy of your present pick just to start from the level you lost before boost. In the same time if you have bucket of lava and water you can jump from flint to diamond with no time. At least good spawn could teleport you from slow progressing to end game tools with no time, well this OP I guess.

 

[-shhfiftyfive]

eyamaz: any chance you could nerf the tofu presser recipe now?

since food is now focus for early game (mattock changes, etc) it seems really out of place to put red alloy in a recipe (which takes an induction smelter, and power)... just for tofu!

in comparison, all other foods can be cooked in vanilla furnace, and uses raw materials and simple baking tools. no power. no red alloy.

 

[Blargerist]

Annoying?! Think about losing your pick. You must keep at least one copy of your present pick just to start from the level you lost before boost. In the same time if you have bucket of lava and water you can jump from flint to diamond with no time. At least good spawn could teleport you from slow progressing to end game tools with no time, well this OP I guess.

Forgive me but how does jumping from flint to diamond in no time with a bucket of lava and water work....?

eyamaz: any chance you could nerf the tofu presser recipe now?

since food is now focus for early game (mattock changes, etc) it seems really out of place to put red alloy in a recipe (which takes an induction smelter, and power)... just for tofu!

in comparison, all other foods can be cooked in vanilla furnace, and uses raw materials and simple baking tools. no power. no red alloy.

Come on man, dat fake meat is complicated.

 

[Batch2]

From the perspective of making you work for what you get, it's...eh...somewhat understandable, but not very logical. Every pick beyond flint EDIT:copper needs one boost to mine the very material it was made from, much less a second boost for the tier higher. That's going to get extremely annoying.

I don't think it's that big of a deal. Picks boost so quickly and TiC tools are almost invincible. I'd reserve judgment till it's play tested.

 

[ScorpioOld]

I don't think it's that big of a deal. Picks boost so quickly and TiC tools are almost invincible. I'd reserve judgment till it's play tested.

How many times did you got reinforced and self-repair on cobalt or adamantium pick axe? Replacing with random staff instead of deterministic is some kind of cool if you have right stats, but annoying when you got wrong stats and you need to start all over again.

PS
In your series you died because of monsters so far, when you go down and experience a couple of explosion either in overworld or neither then we can continue discussion. Cooler tools require more time to boost. Also nobody of you have gone beyond anything than simple staff so far. Anesos is just about to build something after 40-80 hours of play, considering he had access to meteors, which he was happy to dig and right ores generation from the original BnB pack

 

[thatplaya101]

I guess a am a noob but how do we download the pack? I'm on a mac and I just don't know how. Help pls!!!! ;(

 

[PearlescentDragon]

eyamaz: any chance you could nerf the tofu presser recipe now?

since food is now focus for early game (mattock changes, etc) it seems really out of place to put red alloy in a recipe (which takes an induction smelter, and power)... just for tofu!

in comparison, all other foods can be cooked in vanilla furnace, and uses raw materials and simple baking tools. no power. no red alloy.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought you could make red alloy in the Tinker's Construct Smeltery?

 

[Smiley3986]

Has anyone found a way to deal with the blue gas that is protecting the invasion portals now? I really like the new spawn times and rate witch invaders come out I just hate hunting for them before they rip up to much.

 

[sisho]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought you could make red alloy in the Tinker's Construct Smeltery?

You can[DOUBLEPOST=1401322023][/DOUBLEPOST]

How many times did you got reinforced and self-repair on cobalt or adamantium pick axe? Replacing with random staff instead of deterministic is some kind of cool if you have right stats, but annoying when you got wrong stats and you need to start all over again.

PS
In your series you died because of monsters so far, when you go down and experience a couple of explosion either in overworld or neither then we can continue discussion. Cooler tools require more time to boost. Also nobody of you have gone beyond anything than simple staff so far. Anesos is just about to build something after 40-80 hours of play, considering he had access to meteors, which he was happy to dig and right ores generation from the original BnB pack

Just so you know, It is incredibly difficult to make sense of your post, at least the first part. Btw...tinker's construct tools are invincible, the don't even despawn...so you don't lose them unless you just decide to go hop in some nether lava way away from land or just plain can't find it. Also, there is definitely no need to be acting all high and mighty like you are the master of the modpack, nobody needs that here or wants to listen to it. Just because we haven't done anything fancy on camera does not mean we haven't played the hell out of the modpack on our own lol.

 

[Batch2]

In your series you died because of monsters so far, when you go down and experience a couple of explosion either in overworld or neither then we can continue discussion.

Hmmm from what you just said I somehow doubt you've watched my series...

 

[Eyamaz]

Why thank you! In my opinion it would be better though, if there could be a config line to change the rounding type, rather than straight changing it from down to nearest integer in the mod files. Of course, it's entirely possible that I'm too obsessed with config options.

I just finished a round of testing on our current round down version using "MAX(0, 1 - MAX(0, (count-4)/5))".
Results:
Blueberry: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0
Apple Juice: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 0
Strawberry Smoothie: 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 2, 1, 1, 0
Apple Pie: 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 2, 1, 0
Hamburger: 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 5, 4, 2, 1, 0
Bacon Mushroom Burger: 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 0
What do you think @Eyamaz? A nice plateau for all foods, with a sharp drop-off for low tier foods, and a more gradual drop-off for the higher tier. I'll go see about one for the round to nearest integer file now....

This, would be the ideal I would be looking for.

Edit: um. I'll look into the double copper tiers. That should not be a thing.

 

[whyrl]

Just curious, what have you got against blood, @Eyamaz ? I noticed all the alloys that use blood are stone tier. I figured they'd at least have the power of their base metal.

 

[Eyamaz]

Just curious, what have you got against blood, @Eyamaz ? I noticed all the alloys that use blood are stone tier. I figured they'd at least have the power of their base metal.

None, but molten fairy should come from melting Fairies and molten pokefennium should come from sacrificing @Pokefenn to the Darkness...

Kappa

 

[Qazplm601]

never ever think you are getting the hang of BNB.

 

[Blargerist]

@Anesos, @Batch2, @sisho My god, them server-client boat disparity issues in episode 6 of your multiplayer. Happens all the time on all the 1.6.4 servers Forsaken runs as well, although not quite that badly.

 

[Batch2]

@Anesos, @Batch2, @sisho My god, them server-client boat disparity issues in episode 6 of your multiplayer. Happens all the time on all the 1.6.4 servers Forsaken runs as well, although not quite that badly.

Haha Me and Anesos experience a bit of that on your server a couple days ago. There were abandoned boats everywhere! We tried to find some peoples bases to have a looks but I guess everyone is hiding deep underground to avoid the PvP?