Because JABBA is made by a mod author which is in contact with the FTB team.
It's the same phenomenon that causes everyone to use Morph and Hats.
Barrels: JABBA vs. Factorization
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It's the same phenomenon that causes everyone to use Morph and Hats.
Sorry, I just haven't heard anything from FZ since like 1.5.x. I had thought the dev simply got tired and didn't update. Not trying to be harsh, just honestly surprised.[DOUBLEPOST=1402883195][/DOUBLEPOST]
I refuse to use either Morph or Hats, personally. The former... has balance issues with the mod list I generally play with. The latter is just.. silly. It adds zero content other than silly hats.
I use Hats because it's funny, but the lack of a Santa Hat really bums me out
Morph is just bleh. So many mods add the exact same functionality, just with better balance (Witchery, Advanced Genetics, etc.), but that's another conversation.
This is a good a very valid point. If you are looking for a barrel mod install better barrels or JABBA not factorization as factorization adds a ton of stuff (And let's be honest who legitimately uses the things in factorization and cannot go without them.) The stuff in factorization while cool is done better by other modders. (Ex. Ore doubling/tripling (right now ther is even pentupling and decupling ores), Power system, e-furnaces). There is really no use for factorization except for maybe that click sound that it makes when it loads your game.[DOUBLEPOST=1402886588][/DOUBLEPOST]
It's fun to turn off the special abilities you get from morph so you have to get them from those mods.I use Hats because it's funny, but the lack of a Santa Hat really bums me out
Morph is just bleh. So many mods add the exact same functionality, just with better balance (Witchery, Advanced Genetics, etc.), but that's another conversation.
I actually love some of the other stuff from Factorization. I love the solar boilers as well as servos. I even like the ore multiplying, though I wish it was *lot* faster for the crystallizer stage.
Speaking of barrels, though, I *do* like JABBA more than Factorization, though not enough to keep it if I also have Factorization. I also like JABBA's dollys immensely. A great system for moving chests and barrels neatly and easily. If IronChests or Factorization had a dolly equivalent, then I'd probably not run JABBA as I *do* like the other stuff Factorization has. I do think it's a massively underappreciated mod.
Speaking of barrels, though, I *do* like JABBA more than Factorization, though not enough to keep it if I also have Factorization. I also like JABBA's dollys immensely. A great system for moving chests and barrels neatly and easily. If IronChests or Factorization had a dolly equivalent, then I'd probably not run JABBA as I *do* like the other stuff Factorization has. I do think it's a massively underappreciated mod.
Also, the diamond dollys can move monster spawners around... Much better than faffing about with a gravity gun!
Honestly the difference in functionality of JABBA vs Factorization barrels is minimal. The major difference in the mods is JABBA adds barrels, FZ adds barrels,item transport,ore processing, a different power system and a lot more. SO its a matter of do you just want barrels or do you want other stuff in FZ? JABBA works great for packs that FZ doesn't really fit in.
I read the last two pages of this thread just now, and it seems to be all about FZ just generally being useless and therefore JABBA being better.
However, it's not the functionality of other parts of FZ that we're trying to discuss here.
I agree that FZ is altogether a bit obsolete, but my modpack tries to balance out Vanilla gameplay with modded gameplay, and adding all those other mods that improve upon FZ hurts this balance too much imo. That's my main reason to use FZ.
The real question here is whether I should use MineTweaker to disable FZ Barrels and introduce JABBA, but this thread generally has given me the feeling I shouldn't. If you disagree, I'm still open for more replies, though. I'm always glad to hear what the community has to say.
However, it's not the functionality of other parts of FZ that we're trying to discuss here.
I agree that FZ is altogether a bit obsolete, but my modpack tries to balance out Vanilla gameplay with modded gameplay, and adding all those other mods that improve upon FZ hurts this balance too much imo. That's my main reason to use FZ.
The real question here is whether I should use MineTweaker to disable FZ Barrels and introduce JABBA, but this thread generally has given me the feeling I shouldn't. If you disagree, I'm still open for more replies, though. I'm always glad to hear what the community has to say.
One thing I prefer Factorization Barrels over JABBA is that the barrel texture reflects the wood/planks you've made them from. That's quite clever, and lets you do more themed builds. I do miss that when using just JABBA.
I like how JABBA pulls whatever material is used, and the materials for the upgrades are customizable in the config, and so are the colors. I like customizable <3
First, I like the FZ barrels. Despite having JABBA on our server I prefer FZ barrels as they give me a manual sense of items I am accumulating and I plan housekeeping around that.
So, what can JABBA give you in terms of gameplay?
If I missed something, others can please add to the list.
So, what can JABBA give you in terms of gameplay?
- If you want to provide a utility to your players to have a single barrel hold more than 64 stacks of any item, JABBA gives you the ability.
- Also, a redsrone upgrade can make the JABBA barrels send redstone signals denoting if they're full or not.
- You can also make JABBA barrels behave like a weird cross b/w a tesseract and enderchest but for just one item, from your quarries.
- The JABBA dolly allows you to transport chests w/o losing their contents and also allows you to move spawners.
If I missed something, others can please add to the list.
Yep, sometimes I install factorization just for that purpose. I just watch videos and when I hear a click I go to Minecraft
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Factorization has a barrel upgrade to make the barrels store more. But everything else is correctFirst, I like the FZ barrels. Despite having JABBA on our server I prefer FZ barrels as they give me a manual sense of items I am accumulating and I plan housekeeping around that.
So, what can JABBA give you in terms of gameplay?
If these points mean something to you in designing your gameplay, then by all means go JABBA, else I think FZ will fit the barrel bill fine.
- If you want to provide a utility to your players to have a single barrel hold more than 64 stacks of any item, JABBA gives you the ability.
- Also, a redsrone upgrade can make the JABBA barrels send redstone signals denoting if they're full or not.
- You can also make JABBA barrels behave like a weird cross b/w a tesseract and enderchest but for just one item, from your quarries.
- The JABBA dolly allows you to transport chests w/o losing their contents and also allows you to move spawners.
If I missed something, others can please add to the list.
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You could always take the texture file from factorization and make it JABBA's as well.
Doesn't work that way. Jabba has a single texture for the wood sides/top, with a dynamic texture for it's trim. FZ only has a texture for it's trim, and uses the texture for it's sides/top based on the material you crafted it with
I was implying you go out of your way and do all that and make it work. It is rather simple though.
Having retextured the Jabba Barrels, it's not just a case of manipulating FZ texture files, FZ barrel appearance is handled by the code itself, so not so simple...
The way FZ barrels work is that they have NBT tags for the side and top textures. They are automatically set to what you crafted them with.
We all know that. I am saying have the FZ barrel top texture overlay normal wood. And put it in the JABBA barrel's place.
But then you'd still have only one different barrel at a time. You might as well use resource packs at that point.