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pjfranke

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why do people even bother with collecting armor drops from mobs?
You can disenchant them for free enchanted books for the XU enchanted blocks. Some of the enchantments are useful, especially once combined into higher tiers. You can melt them down in a Mariculture crucible furnace for free metal.

Many reasons, even if you never wear any of it. Suppose you could just feed all non-useful drops into a condenser to work towards a singularity.
 

Adonis0

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Just noticed something. Went to Nether to net Blaze and Wither Skelly. Netted Wither Skelly shows as Skeleton and same in Walia on live mob. Are these banned from nets? I know I have to use 'exact copy' to get a Wither Skelly in AutoSpawner, but if net says Skeleton and AutoSpawner is in Overworld, exact copy would produce...?

edit: readup and see that my 256,000 mb drum of Witch Water will come in handy for finding Wither Skellys in Overworld ...
If you spawn them with that net that you captured a wither skeleton in on exact mode, it will create wither skeletons in the overworld, but that takes much more time and mob essence to do than spawning skeletons into witch water
 
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SmokeLuvr1971

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why do people even bother with collecting armor drops from mobs?

this is why i'm doing it.
1: free gold for pech trading - i don't think they drop everything they trade when killed
2: with being forced to use AE for everything [yes, i'm bitter] it's good to have a few iron sources
3: chainmail melts down to steel [no need for an additional iron sink and extra high oven]
4: i like to make use of everything [i process sludge for god's sake!]
5: ...
6: profit!

If you spawn them with that net that you captured a wither skeleton in on exact mode, it will create wither skeletons in the overworld, but that takes much more time and mob essence to do than spawning skeletons into witch water

yeah, i'd read about this awhile ago and forgot. the witch water was supposed to be for automated soul sand production [which didn't pan out].

edit: unrelated but does anyone else use 'block casters' from Maricultue to produce vanilla glass with the smeltry? I find that I have to keep an eye on them as they somehow backup/stop exporting. If I drain them back into the tank, they start working again.

edit: Gadzooks! Wish I'd started this process earlier. I've filled over a large chest with gold blocks already. Too much backlog!
 
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this is why i'm doing it.
1: free gold for pech trading - i don't think they drop everything they trade when killed
2: with being forced to use AE for everything [yes, i'm bitter] it's good to have a few iron sources
3: chainmail melts down to steel [no need for an additional iron sink and extra high oven]
4: i like to make use of everything [i process sludge for god's sake!]
5: ...
6: profit!



yeah, i'd read about this awhile ago and forgot. the witch water was supposed to be for automated soul sand production [which didn't pan out].
you can even smelt down damaged gold armour in the crucible furnace from mariculture for the full amount of ingots
 

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this is why i'm doing it.
1: free gold for pech trading - i don't think they drop everything they trade when killed
2: with being forced to use AE for everything [yes, i'm bitter] it's good to have a few iron sources
3: chainmail melts down to steel [no need for an additional iron sink and extra high oven]
1,2 since we're talking about AS with Ex nihilo in it, i find it rather pointless to have additional gold&iron income when i sit on a barrels(20k items each) overflowing with ingots. but that's might be just me.
3 that's a good point, because i dislike high oven eating mah redstone.
 

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Is it possible to get an unbreakable tool in AgS?
I'm not sure if the thaumic and paper modifiers stack or not..

EDIT: Apparently paper tool parts are disabled
 

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Is it possible to get an unbreakable tool in AgS?
I'm not sure if the thaumic and paper modifiers stack or not..

EDIT: Apparently paper tool parts are disabled
thaumic and writable do stack. but without paper parts this knowledge is of no use.
i think it's possible to have unbreakable T2 tools with at least 1 obsidian part and some RNG(well, it's probably with great deal of RNG but whatever).

however instead of relying on RNG just go with the moss for your tools, or electric if you plan on using them in AA or something
 
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Adonis0

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thaumic and writable do stack. but without paper parts this knowledge is of no use.
i think it's possible to have unbreakable T2 tools with at least 1 obsidian part and some RNG(well, it's probably with great deal of RNG but whatever).

however instead of relying on RNG just go with the moss for your tools, or electric if you plan on using them in AA or something
mmm, kinda was wanting to avoid the complexity of a system like that (kinda not thinking straight at the moment) but it's looking like I'm going to have to do that (unless I spend another few hours waiting for RNG to be in my favor
 

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edit: unrelated but does anyone else use 'block casters' from Maricultue to produce vanilla glass with the smeltry? I find that I have to keep an eye on them as they somehow backup/stop exporting. If I drain them back into the tank, they start working again.
Yeah this is related to them not saving their 'CanWork' status. This is only updated whenever something changes, e.g. add liquid, remove it, remove items. On world/chunk reload however, this CanWork status isn't saved, so they stop functioning. (This has been fixed in 1.7 though).

you can even smelt down damaged gold armour in the crucible furnace from mariculture for the full amount of ingots
The full? No. You get the proportional amount. E.g. boots that are 50% damaged will get you 288mB worth( 2 ingots), while boots that are 63% damaged will get you roughly 213mB worth or roughly 1.47 Ingots.
 
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pjfranke

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1: free gold for pech trading - i don't think they drop everything they trade when killed

3: chainmail melts down to steel [no need for an additional iron sink and extra high oven]

Forgot about these two, but also excellent reasons!

you can even smelt down damaged gold armour in the crucible furnace from mariculture for the full amount of ingots

Damaged doesn't give you the full quantity, but it's still free ingots.
 

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you can even smelt down damaged gold armour in the crucible furnace from mariculture for the full amount of ingots

I was using the Crucible Furnace in a previous world to make glass and found it way,way too slow [was heated to 2k degrees]. Is it faster for melting down armors/tools?
 

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Is it possible to get an unbreakable tool in AgS?
I'm not sure if the thaumic and paper modifiers stack or not..

EDIT: Apparently paper tool parts are disabled

I was asking around about this some time ago. The only 'legit' way is I know of:
1: Create a 4-part obsidian tool/weapon [dunno if this is applicable to 3/2 part tools but I doubt it]. This gets you to Reinforced 3.
2: You must get 'Reinforced I' twice as a random modifier. Up to Reinforced 5 now.
3: Master tool/weapon to unlock any remaining modifiers then replace all parts with Thaumium except for the main tool/weapon part [that needs to remain Obsidian]. This should net you an additional 3 modifiers.
4: Fill all remaining and 2 addon modifier slots [for some reason Nether Star modifier addon doesn't work for me?] with Obsidian plates [5]. Tool/weapon should now be at Reinforced 10 = Unbreakable.

I was doing this with a Scythe in an AA [weapons/tools will level quickly in an AA]. Problem I was having is I kept getting Blaze modifier along with Reinforced I, making the tool unusable for mob Tower [blaze sets Endermen on fire - causing them to teleport]. After 3 barrels of Obsidian, I decided to cheat a bit and make my own.

To cheat one in, you have to change some configs to unlock everything you need and disable tool leveling/modifier removing. Cheaty version requires 2/3 paper parts and main obsidian part, plus 1/2 of the additional modifiers. You can also use Thaumium but I found paper was giving more modifier slots? Assemble as usual and when tool is unbreakable, you can change the configs back.

--Make sure to use it once before changing configs back [verifies it's unbreakable and precaution against modifier removal on newly created tools/weaps].

There's also the Thaum repair enchant. Someone prior told me Repair II will keep a tool/weap unbreakable [untested by me].
 

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thaumic and writable do stack. but without paper parts this knowledge is of no use.
i think it's possible to have unbreakable T2 tools with at least 1 obsidian part and some RNG(well, it's probably with great deal of RNG but whatever).

however instead of relying on RNG just go with the moss for your tools, or electric if you plan on using them in AA or something

Haha! I had totally forgotten about ATOMICS! [RF-durability tools]. This is probably the easiest method, even with setting up recharging. But...you still have to deal with RNG if using TiCo stuff as it levels.
 

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Without any upgrades it is very slow. If I made it faster, a fully sped up one would be too fast.

Yeah, I was using it without any upgrades. I didn't even know it could be upgraded, TBH [there's no mention of this when I was researching how to use this machine].
 

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Seems I've run into a bit of a problem. I'm trying to control the speed at which items get loaded into the Auto-Disenchanter [AD]. Ducts will pull faster than the AD can process items. In the process of placing a comparator down to read the AD, and crash. Restart and...crash.

Looks like this is a known issue. Good thing I had MCEdit handy!
 

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Seems I've run into a bit of a problem. I'm trying to control the speed at which items get loaded into the Auto-Disenchanter [AD]. Ducts will pull faster than the AD can process items. In the process of placing a comparator down to read the AD, and crash. Restart and...crash.

Looks like this is a known issue. Good thing I had MCEdit handy!
I hadn't realized the auto-disenchanter would let items in its input slots get pulled out by itemducts. That sounds like a bug to me...
 

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I hadn't realized the auto-disenchanter would let items in its input slots get pulled out by itemducts. That sounds like a bug to me...
It could be side dependent, as in sides input and top/bottom are output for instance.
Some machines still do that, I think we've been spoiled by mek and TE with their configurable sidings
 

SmokeLuvr1971

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I hadn't realized the auto-disenchanter would let items in its input slots get pulled out by itemducts. That sounds like a bug to me...

Not this at all. Ducts put items into correct slots and pull out from correct slots. I wanted to use a comparator to tell when the machine had work/was full/..., something I could use as a signal to tell the duct to stop [without resorting to a PRC]. I realized I put the comparator down backwards, corrected the mistake...and then had to mcedit out the comparator.

The problem was reported 3 months ago on MFR's github bug forum with no response listed.
 

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Bit of help requested
I have currently used blood magic to create a set of islands with all the types of biomes you require for bee breeding (excepting hell and sky.. it won't let me make those in the overworld) Now I've started decorating and fitting out those islands and I've run into a hitch.. I really wish there was some sort of ender chest functionality as it would fit properly

How would I stock each island (9 in total for now) full of frames and restock AA's with fragrant hives without using a tesseract channel for each (and thus use 40 tesseracts for this). This function would perfectly be filled by ender chests and translocators, but obviously AgS doesn't have either..

So far it seems like I have to use a tesseract, but I see a problem with it potentially getting a single island jammed if the soul frame chest is full, but the fragrant hives aren't, but a soul frame makes it through and jams up the system for instance, or if I have a siphon to account for a case such as this it would simply cause a loop whereby items are just flowing from one islands itemduct network to the next island and back again