[1.7.10][LISTED] InfiTech 2 Modpack v3.2.21 [HQM][GregTech balanced hard-mode modpack]

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asb3pe

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Make solid wall on the other side, it works.

For 2 parallel it should be enough to literaly use two tracks parallel. I never used 2 tracks for the lava collection, because its not necessary at all. I you want multiple Tank carts collecting lava, just link them together, make the loop near the pump and collection area and thats it. I will get a screeshot of the setup I have currently for the Oil collection with 1 Tank Cart and 1 Anchor Cart.

I've copied your setup except I don't make an immediate 90 degree turn at the portals. I just have two parallel tracks on each end of the portal. Theoretically, the cart should just go back and forth forever, however I can't get it to go back and forth once. The cart goes thru the portal but it gets stuck on the other side, no matter which side I'm sending it thru from. The cart is always sitting on that one empty space with no track. It's as if its coming thru the portal but without any momentum so it cannot clear that one-block gap. I added a lot of powered track so it goes into the portal real fast, thinking that might help, but it didn't - same thing happens. And I also tried placing track in the gap, however, it still doesn't work. I'm kinda stumped but gotta keep grinding away at it until I get it.
 

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I've copied your setup except I don't make an immediate 90 degree turn at the portals. I just have two parallel tracks on each end of the portal. Theoretically, the cart should just go back and forth forever, however I can't get it to go back and forth once. The cart goes thru the portal but it gets stuck on the other side, no matter which side I'm sending it thru from. The cart is always sitting on that one empty space with no track. It's as if its coming thru the portal but without any momentum so it cannot clear that one-block gap. I added a lot of powered track so it goes into the portal real fast, thinking that might help, but it didn't - same thing happens. And I also tried placing track in the gap, however, it still doesn't work. I'm kinda stumped but gotta keep grinding away at it until I get it.

Did you put the Booster tracks in front of the portals on both sides like i have?
 

asb3pe

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Did you put the Booster tracks in front of the portals on both sides like i have?

Yes that's how I have it. I'm wondering about the cart momentum and whether its important that it's within a certain range as it goes thru the portal. Perhaps I need to remove the solid wall and just go back to letting the cart come out on whichever side of the portal it wants to.
 

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Yes that's how I have it. I'm wondering about the cart momentum and whether its important that it's within a certain range as it goes thru the portal. Perhaps I need to remove the solid wall and just go back to letting the cart come out on whichever side of the portal it wants to.
Oh actually... Chunk loaders. You need to have both sides chunkloaded
 

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An ignis shovel is a wonderful thing in the early game. Need bricks or glass? Who the hell needs a furnace. Go shovel some clay and sand directly.
Unfortunately, the durability of most of those TC shard tools is pretty awful. But it's a start.

I finally made/infused myself a Shovel of the Earthmover so I can, hopefully, acquire sand more efficiently. Wand focus of excavation isn't too bad, but it's messy and I end up leaving sand blocks behind in the little holes unless I toss a Miser's Pearl around a bunch. I can't wait until I can just dedicate a Universal Macerator solely to churning out piles of sand for all of my sand-related needs instead of having to actually leave my base.

After a month or so of playing I reached a milestone finally: I built all of the pieces for my EBF this morning. Now I just need to decide where in my base to locate it. I know where I want it long-term, but for now powering it there will be an issue. I think I'll just toss it down in my basement and run steel fluid lines into 6 LV steam turbines that'll feed into 3 4amp LV battery buffers, each of which will feed an individual LV energy bus. I really dislike this phase of GT because I know that within a day, maybe two I'll be ripping out all the LV stuff in favor of MV, replacing all those cuprinickel coils I built, and in this case probably dismantling the whole thing and moving it once my RC steam turbines feeding multiple CESUs (need EBF to make these due to annealed copper cables) are online.

I've spent the last month exploring Thaumcraft in depth. The only thing I don't have researched right now is the stuff that happens after I Open the Eye and defeat the boss. I need to build some better armor and outfit it with lots of runic shielding before I attempt this though. That'll be a lot of voidmetal to create and a lot of warp to be annoyed by :) In the meantime I tested a design for automatically killing wisps from a spawner that I moved in order to farm their essentia. I'll need 25 Arcane Levitators, 25 Item Grates, 25 signs, and 14 buckets of Liquid Death. And I guess a gather golem or vacuum chest :) I threw every mob I could think of at this killing method. The only mob I ran into issues with was creepers as they kept on blowing up the signs... Seems to be spot on for wisps though.
 

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Oh actually... Chunk loaders. You need to have both sides chunkloaded

Both sides are def chunk loaded. I'm really stumped. I watch your video and I get how to construct it... but when I do so, it doesn't work. LOL

Let me just make sure - I gave myself two Railcraft Admin Anchors, and those keep a 3x3 chunk area loaded, correct? As long as they're 3x3 then I'm chunk loaded on both ends... sometimes I go thru the portal and the train has cleared the gap and is sitting down at the end of the line... but it's extremely rare, I'd say 1 try in 10 or 15. But that's my one clue that yes, I'm def chunk loaded on both ends.
 

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Both sides are def chunk loaded. I'm really stumped. I watch your video and I get how to construct it... but when I do so, it doesn't work. LOL

Let me just make sure - I gave myself two Railcraft Admin Anchors, and those keep a 3x3 chunk area loaded, correct? As long as they're 3x3 then I'm chunk loaded on both ends... sometimes I go thru the portal and the train has cleared the gap and is sitting down at the end of the line... but it's extremely rare, I'd say 1 try in 10 or 15.
Hmm.. So maybe it really wants to go thrrough the other side, into the wall... Otherwise.. I have totally no idea.
 

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Unfortunately, the durability of most of those TC shard tools is pretty awful. But it's a start.
At the stage of the game where you even bother with this, the durability isn't really a big deal. The things are virtually free. You make 10 ignis shovel heads if necessary and go find the nearest desert and come back with a near-lifetime supply of glass. If you think you're getting low on shards, well, use water shards for a Fortune 3 pickaxe to pick up any shard ores you find :)

After a month or so of playing I reached a milestone finally: I built all of the pieces for my EBF this morning. Now I just need to decide where in my base to locate it. I know where I want it long-term, but for now powering it there will be an issue. I think I'll just toss it down in my basement and run steel fluid lines into 6 LV steam turbines that'll feed into 3 4amp LV battery buffers, each of which will feed an individual LV energy bus. I really dislike this phase of GT because I know that within a day, maybe two I'll be ripping out all the LV stuff in favor of MV, replacing all those cuprinickel coils I built, and in this case probably dismantling the whole thing and moving it once my RC steam turbines feeding multiple CESUs (need EBF to make these due to annealed copper cables) are online.
Kickass! Personally at this stage I just make sure its as close to a power-source as possible. Your EBF is going to be your primary energy consumer, so you want it wasting as little on transmission loss as possible.

I also always try to remind myself: the placement isn't permanent. I'll uproot it eventually and place it somewhere more aesthetic/sensible at some point :)
 

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Hmm.. So maybe it really wants to go thrrough the other side, into the wall... Otherwise.. I have totally no idea.

yep I agree, I think it's going into the wall and losing its momentum. however, I've switched the side that the cart enters, and I've switched the orientation of the portal multiple times and nothing has worked for me. LOL what a nightmare, but I HAVE TO get this working because I am out of charcoal, I have no wood, and thus, I have no means of making steam right now. I went all-in on this project, it's lava or bust.

I knew playing a pack without stuff like tesseracts or ender tanks would be tough... but this almost seems cruel and heartless. LOL Lava, lava everywhere, and all the boards did shrink, Lava lava everywhere, but nary a drop to drink? LOL The Rime of the Ancient Minecrafter. haha
 

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yep I agree, I think it's going into the wall and losing its momentum. however, I've switched the side that the cart enters, and I've switched the orientation of the portal multiple times and nothing has worked for me. LOL what a nightmare, but I HAVE TO get this working because I am out of charcoal, I have no wood, and thus, I have no means of making steam right now. I went all-in on this project, it's lava or bust.

I knew playing a pack without stuff like tesseracts or ender tanks would be tough... but this almost seems cruel and heartless. LOL
Hmm... Could you post a screenshot of the setup? Maybe i will notice something... maybe...
 

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yep I agree, I think it's going into the wall and losing its momentum. however, I've switched the side that the cart enters, and I've switched the orientation of the portal multiple times and nothing has worked for me. LOL what a nightmare, but I HAVE TO get this working because I am out of charcoal, I have no wood, and thus, I have no means of making steam right now. I went all-in on this project, it's lava or bust.

I knew playing a pack without stuff like tesseracts or ender tanks would be tough... but this almost seems cruel and heartless. LOL All that lava, and nary a drop to drink? LOL
Don't be afraid to switch to another method of producing steam. Lava isn't the only answer, and if it is, getting it via minecarts isn't the only method.
 

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I also always try to remind myself: the placement isn't permanent. I'll uproot it eventually and place it somewhere more aesthetic/sensible at some point :)

Def this. I squeezed my EBF in between my row of machines and the back wall. It's in a ridiculous spot, but for now my main goal was to keep it directly adjacent to my steam tank for two reasons - one, it saves me on fluid pipe and conduit to keep my turbines close to the tank. Second, the longer run of GT cable I have to use to go from turbine to machine, the more voltage drop there is (or power loss)... so we want to minimize all those losses early on.

Later on, when I'm doing a bit better materials-wise, then I'll go ahead and re-located my EBF. But for now, it's a mess of tripping over stuff to get to it... but whatever, can't be worried about neatness right now, that will come later.
 
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Don't be afraid to switch to another method of producing steam. Lava isn't the only answer, and if it is, getting it via minecarts isn't the only method.

Understood, but as I say, I've gone "all-in" with this lava project. I dropped all work on tree farming and coke oven tending, and thus I've lost my one fuel/steam source now. I could re-start it, but I'm determined to switch over to lava boilers and get rid of trees and charcoal and coke ovens and railcraft boilers that inhale fuel... LAVA TRAIN! Build it and forget it. Perfect for me.

Yeah, maybe there's another way, but trust me, it probably isn't gonna just pop into this thick skull of mine by magic. Once I get set on something, I tend to lose sight of everything else, including "better ideas". hahaha
 

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Yeah, maybe there's another way, but trust me, it probably isn't gonna just pop into this thick skull of mine by magic. Once I get set on something, I tend to lose sight of everything else, including "better ideas". hahaha
Even if you don't wanna do the Magic Mirrors transportation of lava, another crazy idea is....summoning lava with magic.

Yes, this is a thing. You can create something called a Nethermine which produces nether resources, and you can instruct it to create lava.

(I don't actually recommend this, its not simple to set up or feed with aspects. But its a neat fyi)
 

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Hmm... Could you post a screenshot of the setup? Maybe i will notice something... maybe...

I'm a moron, the base chunk wasn't chunk loaded, I mistook the chunk I had placed it in and when I turned on F9 chunk graphics I saw it. Argh, but this should resolve it now. Sheesh what an idiot I am. LOL
 
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At the stage of the game where you even bother with this, the durability isn't really a big deal. The things are virtually free. You make 10 ignis shovel heads if necessary and go find the nearest desert and come back with a near-lifetime supply of glass. If you think you're getting low on shards, well, use water shards for a Fortune 3 pickaxe to pick up any shard ores you find :)


Kickass! Personally at this stage I just make sure its as close to a power-source as possible. Your EBF is going to be your primary energy consumer, so you want it wasting as little on transmission loss as possible.

I also always try to remind myself: the placement isn't permanent. I'll uproot it eventually and place it somewhere more aesthetic/sensible at some point :)

I'm itching to use alchemy to duplicate Nether Quartz and AE2 crystals. There's no such thing as lifetime supply of glass when that's involved :) I really need to mine more though again, I'm way down on my TC shard supply. I'm continually running out of Ignis shards now it seems.

Even if you don't wanna do the Magic Mirrors transportation of lava, another crazy idea is....summoning lava with magic.

Yes, this is a thing. You can create something called a Nethermine which produces nether resources, and you can instruct it to create lava.

(I don't actually recommend this, its not simple to set up or feed with aspects. But its a neat fyi)

Yeah, that's something I intend to build. And I will build it. But not because it's practical or useful, but rather because it's neat. I also intend to set up a zombie pigman summoner based upon that design as well to see if it's viable as a gold farm. But yeah, you need a steady supply of essentia (and maybe even Ignis vis if I remember correctly) for the Nethermine and it's something beyond early game capabilities I think.

Thanks Jason but screenshots aren't gonna show much and I wouldn't know where to upload them anyways. <snip>

www.imgur.com is probably the best place to upload screenshots or any pictures you wish to share btw.
 

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You can drag and drop images directly into this thread if they're < 1MB in size or so.

In Minecraft a screenshot (F2) often results in a png that is considerably larger than 1MB. But you can just open it in MS Paint and resave it as a jpg. It almost always results in <1MB and you lose no apparent quality.
 

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Well, no surprise really... now that I'm positive that both ends are chunk loaded properly... it still won't work. Same thing as it always was, the cart is sitting on that one block gap when I go thru to see why it didn't come back to me. I've added a second booster rail thinking that it just needs more speed in order to cross the gap, but nope.

At this point, I think I'm gonna have to give up and go another route entirely for transporting lava from nether to overworld... even if that means doing it manually (i.e. fill drums in nether and carry by hand back to overworld. I love this game, but I also hate it too sometimes.