[1.7.10][LISTED] InfiTech 2 Modpack v3.2.21 [HQM][GregTech balanced hard-mode modpack]

[Pyure]

You dont write programs by yourself? Blasphemy...... Anyway: Swapping "Should" be fine.

So long as he doesn't abuse turtles

 

[MigukNamja]

Regarding tree breeding:

...both of which are outside the territory of the bees in the treehouse.

If you're going by the Territory trait, that's way too small. The Territory trait is for the Effect, not for pollination. Whenever I do tree breeding, I clear-cut 2 chunks away (32 blocks) in all directions.

Then I built another sealed greenhouse

In real-life, greenhouses are sealed. Minecraft Forestry, bees, however, don't respect walls/glass. They will pollinate through walls/glass.

I let it run for 3 days. No balsa wood pollen.

I don't have any experience with collecting pollen using Gendustry. However, did you use bees that are capable of pollinating ? Bees like Rocky that have 'Rocks' as their 'flower' don't pollinate. Try one with 'Flowers' and plant dirt with a flower on it.

 

[MigukNamja]

So long as he doesn't abuse turtles

i.e. free energy and a diamond pickaxe that never breaks

 

[MigukNamja]

So my question is more for that last bit, what order would you people suggest for the ore washing machine, thermal centrifuge, and centrifuge? It seems like the centrifuge may be better then the thermal version and the ore washer is best first but I'm not sure.

• Thermal Centrifuge takes a *lot* of power. Unless you have a lot of excess power, save this for later.
• Centrifuge is used in a lot of ways. Ore processing is just one of the ways.
• Ore washing is the best bang for the buck, IMHO, for general-purpose ore processing. It needs water, though.

In my worlds, it's usually a toss-up between building a centrifuge or ore washer next.

 

[Dlur100]

I don't have any experience with collecting pollen using Gendustry. However, did you use bees that are capable of pollinating ? Bees like Rocky that have 'Rocks' as their 'flower' don't pollinate. Try one with 'Flowers' and plant dirt with a flower on it.

I made a lot of progress yesterday on both trees and bees. I got far enough along in bees that I was able to max out some pollination traits in a nocturnal cave dwelling bee and use that in my industrial apiary, which I was able to add flowering upgrades to now since they didn't need daylight and open sky upgrades. Now I'm rolling in pollen, even balsa wood. So now I'm on desert acadia trees and on the verge of blue mahou. I might just use GenDustry to create a tree template to apply to those also so I can include the optimal tree traits for that as well.

I've also used GenDustry sampling to start building a "perfect" bee trait template that I can apply to new species. I think the first one will be to redo my Imperial bees with good traits so that I can actually get enough royal jelly to feed my mutagen habit I also noted that aura bees are OP for traits it seems. Will be breeding these soon

But, alas by judicial use of mutagen I've managed to get to Oil Bees, Energetic Alloy, Emereldi, Redstone, Lapis, Timely, Skulking, Draconic, and a few others.

Currently on my Forestry agenda is to:
- Build more Alvearies to get oil production going
- Apply optimal traits to all species with shorter life and 4 offspring to breeding stock, and longer life and 1 or 2 offspring to production stock
- Turn steadfast and monastatic drones into queens. Optimal traits (4 offspring) should help with this process. I'm a little scared because I only have 1 steadfast drone.
- Find more space for bees as I'm running out My base is in a wasteland biome (hindsight is 20/20). but I'm slowly converting it all to magical forest at least
- Automate comb and byproduct processing

 

[MigukNamja]

...Draconic, and a few others.

Oooh...planning on killing the Wither Boss once or 32 times, are we ?

If you want to build yourself a "Wither Boss Arena", I highly recommend the eIO Wither-proof Obsidian made with Dark Steel.

- Turn steadfast and monastatic drones into queens. Optimal traits (4 offspring) should help with this process. I'm a little scared because I only have 1 steadfast drone.

Perfectly normal to be jittery, but if you do it right, the odds of losing Steadfast and Monastic are close to nil. Make sure you always breed with a 'Max. Fert' (4 offspring) Princess and you'll be good. The first cycle, you'll get:

1 Hybrid Princess
4x Hybrid Drones

Set the Princess aside. She's done for now.

Pick any of the drones. Breed with another 'pure' Max. Fert Princess. You should then get at *least* 1 hybrid. Keep repeating until you get all the cool traits of the pure Princess *and* you get a hybrid Princess. Breed with the hybrid princess with the best hybrid drone you have and purify their offspring (yes, inbreed ;-)) until you have a pure Steadfast or Monastic.

 

[Dlur100]

Oooh...planning on killing the Wither Boss once or 32 times, are we ?

If you want to build yourself a "Wither Boss Arena", I highly recommend the eIO Wither-proof Obsidian made with Dark Steel.

Already killed the wither a few dozen times. Pistons for the win. The wither can't do much when his head is stuck in bedrock. I guess mostly we're hoping to have a renewable supply of oblivion frames in the long run. Also, one of the guys on the server really likes dragons.

 

[gatsu]

Hey, has anyone managed to create GT enderium ingots? I was going to create a bedrockium drum, which requires a QED; the QED requires ender-infused obsidian, among other things, that require enderium ingots. I've managed to create enderium dust, but can't see any way to convert dust to ingots.

 

[gallowglass]

Hey, has anyone managed to create GT enderium ingots? I was going to create a bedrockium drum, which requires a QED; the QED requires ender-infused obsidian, among other things, that require enderium ingots. I've managed to create enderium dust, but can't see any way to convert dust to ingots.

Blast furnace to get hot ingots, hot ingots to vacuum freezer to get ingots.

 

[Jason McRay]

There is slight oversight in the v2.1.7 of the pack... When you die, your items arent stored in a grave. To fix that go to config/projectzulu > open ProjectZuluConfig.cfg and change following lines:

I:armorMaxDrop=4
I:inventoryMaxDrop=27
I:hotbarMaxDrop=9

its under "general controls"

 

[Vechora]

So I'm confused on the basic steam turbine

this wiki says the following:

2 steam per eu-v> 66 efficiency makes 3mb steam per 1eu-v. So you'd think that with 32 eu-v per tick it uses roughly 96mb steam per tick but according to its description it uses 102mb?

then I found this post:

I built the electric blast furnace and currently have it powered by 4 basic steam turbines. This sucks up a TON of steam. I was pushing the steam into a buffer tank, but I can't get enough throughput, so I am going to be forced to relocate the furnace right next the boiler and feed each steam turbine directly from the boiler. I am not sure if the 8LP boiler can keep up with the demand from the turbines.

I suspect your 8-LP will keep up fine. For extra pimp factor, consider doing the GT "Large Bronze Boiler" instead. I built a Large Steel Boiler, and if you can handle the steam output, it produces enough to handle your EBF easily while cooking aluminium.

most EBF recipies use 120 EU-v per tick so that is in small turbine steam consumption (using 1 to 3) 360mb steam/t. I think an 8-LP generates 80 mb/t so what the balls is going on here?

To make things EVEN more interesting is ender IO fluid conduit, the basic one with 50mb/t extract and 200mb/t flow rate. Apparently flow rate doesn't affect steam so disregarding that I hooked up one turbine (using between 96 and 102mb per tick) to a conduit coming out of a railcraft tank. It was connected to only ONE valve so with 50mb/t it should run out of steam slowly. But it did not.

Does anyone know what is going on here?

 

[MigukNamja]

most EBF recipies use 120 EU-v per tick so that is in small turbine steam consumption (using 1 to 3) 360mb steam/t. I think an 8-LP generates 80 mb/t so what the balls is going on here?

I'm pretty sure an 8LP will indeed *not* be able to power an EBF.

To make things EVEN more interesting is ender IO fluid conduit, the basic one with 50mb/t extract and 200mb/t flow rate. Apparently flow rate doesn't affect steam so disregarding that I hooked up one turbine (using between 96 and 102mb per tick) to a conduit coming out of a railcraft tank. It was connected to only ONE valve so with 50mb/t it should run out of steam slowly. But it did not.

Does anyone know what is going on here?

The per-connection limit is 200mb/t. There is no throughput limit, per se, just per connection. And, I believe the 50mb/t is for when it has to *extract*, not when something is pushed into it. The RC valves on the bottom of an RC tank will push. You don't have to use the extract feature of eIO to get the fluid (steam) out. I don't believe steam is special or different than any other fluid.

 

[Vechora]

The per-connection limit is 200mb/t. There is no throughput limit, per se, just per connection. And, I believe the 50mb/t is for when it has to *extract*, not when something is pushed into it. The RC valves on the bottom of an RC tank will push. You don't have to use the extract feature of eIO to get the fluid (steam) out. I don't believe steam is special or different than any other fluid.

With this information and some very loose testing (running dry 2 of my battery buffers connecting only 2 turbines to 1 valve) it seems it is running one turbine out of steam at a rate of rougly 1000mb per 10 to 15 seconds which comes down to 100 to 70 mb per second -> 5 to 3,5 mb per tick

200 mb vs the 204mb from the two turbines means a surplus demand of 4mb which is very close to 5 to 3,5mb. Yay!

 

[Dentvar]

With this information and some very loose testing (running dry 2 of my battery buffers connecting only 2 turbines to 1 valve) it seems it is running one turbine out of steam at a rate of rougly 1000mb per 10 to 15 seconds which comes down to 100 to 70 mb per second -> 5 to 3,5 mb per tick

200 mb vs the 204mb from the two turbines means a surplus demand of 4mb wich is very close to 5 to 3,5mb. Yay!

Now, I know why you like Greg Tech

 

[Dlur100]

Now, I know why you like Greg Tech

Indeed. One of the other fellas on our server says that other than FTB/Minecraft his windows calculator is his most used program with this modpack.

I don't math my way through GregTech. I just post/absorb this thread


Blue Mahou trees were achieved this morning finally. I grafted a stack of saplings off them and then ran them through a GenDustry sampler. I got every trait off them, except for Sappiness: High. I was hoping I could just extract high sap content off of these and apply them to my current apple oak strain. Am I just getting unlucky or should I go reverse and extract growth/fruit/size/sapplings from my apple oaks and apply them the the mahous instead?


Edit: Also I thought about perfect bee traits a bit more. I had thought that setting production bees to a fertility of 1 or maybe 2 would be a good idea so I don't end up with hundreds of drones when all I'm really looking for there is combs and byproducts. Then last night I finally read about the ME Compressor. I've been using Trash cans to get rid of my junk. Hello Matter Balls and, eventually, singularities! I think I'll just keep my fertility at 4 for everything

Edit2: So the more I think about it, the more the concept of extending an ME network with singularities to other sites/dimensions appeals to me. The problem with it really is that both sides need to be powered. Are there any elegant solutions for transmitting power across space/dimensions or do I need to look at something like sending yellorium/alumentum through the system and powering with that?

 

[Vechora]

Now, I know why you like Greg Tech

3 minutes ago I realised I need stainless steel plates for a big reactor controller, so that saddend me a bit. But on the bright side I only needed a cupronickel coiled ebf
2 minutes ago I realised I need tungstensteel plates for the yellorium fuel rod, which requires both a vacuum freezer and a nichrome coil ebf.

*exlaims dramaticly* DAMN YOU GREG!

so I don't necessarily "like" it

 

[Jason McRay]

3 minutes ago I realised I need stainless steel plates for a big reactor controller, so that saddend me a bit. But on the bright side I only needed a cupronickel coiled ebf
2 minutes ago I realised I need tungstensteel plates for the yellorium fuel rod, which requires both a vacuum freezer and a nichrome coil ebf.

*exlaims dramaticly* DAMN YOU GREG!

so I don't necessarily "like" it

Let me correct you:

*exlaims dramaticly* DAMN YOU JASON!
or maybe
*exlaims dramaticly* DAMN YOU @MigukNamja who provided the nerfed recipes for all BR stuff !

 

[Blood Asp]

2 steam per eu-v> 66 efficiency makes 3mb steam per 1eu-v. So you'd think that with 32 eu-v per tick it uses roughly 96mb steam per tick but according to its description it uses 102mb?

That difference comes from internal loss. To output 32EU, the steam turbine uses internally 34EU.So 34EU/t*3mB/EU=102mB/t.

 

[Dlur100]

Let me correct you:

*exlaims dramaticly* DAMN YOU JASON!
or maybe
*exlaims dramaticly* DAMN YOU @MigukNamja who provided the nerfed recipes for all BR stuff !

That's not quite as much fun though. It seems like you're both actually pretty nice fellas. I can't really imagine either of you feeding on the tears of the downtrodden like I can with GregoriousT.

 

[gatsu]

Blast furnace to get hot ingots, hot ingots to vacuum freezer to get ingots.

Thanks gg. I completely missed that connection!