[0.12.0] 1.7.10: Technomancy Discussion Thread

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Azzanine

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Plus the wand of the forest functionality doesn't feel like it's in the perveiw of the mod or the items scope.
Feels like a Forbidden Magic kind of thing. That's the mod that mixes the main magic mods together.

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Technomancy version 0.12.0 is released!

You can download it here:
http://minecraft.curseforge.com/mc-mods/229912-technomancy/files/2254965

Changelog:

Added Existence System:

- Three types of producers (one mobs, one mobs + RF, last passive see new rituals)
- Three types of transmitters (Pylons with 3 tiers)
- Two consumers (crop accelerator and harvester)


Added Treasure system:

- Villagers hold treasures
- Bad stuff happens when villagers with treasure are killed
- Villagers with treasures are very powerful
- Treasures extractable (3 types available for now) see new rituals



New Rituals:

- Birth of the Fountain kills mobs off to create a passive existence generation method
- Extraction extracts treasure, deadly if not used correctly



Fix:

- Coil coupler crash when core is removed
- Black Hole ritual not killing off in the right radius
- Scepter research displaying when wand cores not researched
 
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Lethosos

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malicious_bloke is gonna love/hate you; he loves to do bad things to testificates.

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Lethosos said:
malicious_bloke is gonna love/hate you; he loves to do bad things to testificates.

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Kill a Villager who's holding a fire gem in a vilage and there is no more village (except if there is some water nearby).
Kill a Villager who's holding the wing in a vilage and the villagers outside their houses will perish.
Kill a Villager (it's actually almost impossible) who's holding the plate in a vilage and there will be a mess.
 
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Is there any documentation or mod videos on this? Any pictures, guides, tutorials or anything at all outside of the ingame manual? Just so we know what we're getting into?
 
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theflogat

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There is a short description of most of the items/blocks in the original post if you want a general impression.

There are some mod spotlights but most are outdated and contain obsolete information.


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Azzanine

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Technomancy was at one point considered a hot buggy mess. So it's adoption has been stunted meaning to not a lot of players documenting junk.

Now however it's a rather stable addition to thaumcraft 4 and to a lesser extent Blood Magic and Botania. I seldom have a Thaumcraft instance without it.

You could always ask others here of your quandaries.

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Whichy

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Which item is easy/fast to craft to get the base aspects fast in the advanced deconstructor? So far I've been doing crafting tables...but there's sure better ways...
 
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No. Crafting Tables have the highest possible probability and is the cheapest item to have it.


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Okay, thanks, so is there a slightly expensiver way to do it?

2) What's/Which items are the most guaranteed way to get stuff?
 
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From http://thaumcraft-4.wikia.com/wiki/Deconstruction_Table
The chance of obtaining research points is directly related to the aspects of the items supplied:

  • Only primal research points are given, and only one at a time.
  • A given primal can only be produced if it is a component or sub-component of some aspect contained in the item. Note that Humanus and its compounds contain all the primal aspects.
  • Items with large aspect numbers and/or complex compounds are more likely to give a point than those with a few simple aspects.
  • There is apparently an equal chance of getting any primal available from any of the item's aspects, regardless of the original aspect's structure, or the relative amounts of different compounds.
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Though actual authors might be able to provide more insight. Especially about the " Items with large aspect numbers and/or complex compounds are more likely to give a point than those with a few simple aspects. " part.
 
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Decompose items with their primals. Example: 2 Stone decompose in 2 Terra + 2 Terra.

When you have done so, the total number of primals must exceed or be equal to 80. Example: the item decomposes in 8 aer, 4 ignis, 6 terra means you have 18 primals (18 chances out of 80 to have a chance at earning an aspect).

The Technomancy nerf makes it an 1 in 8 chances for items who have passed the first probability test to actually yield aspect.


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theflogat said:
Decompose items with their primals. Example: 2 Stone decompose in 2 Terra + 2 Terra.

When you have done so, the total number of primals must exceed or be equal to 80. Example: the item decomposes in 8 aer, 4 ignis, 6 terra means you have 18 primals (18 chances out of 80 to have a chance at earning an aspect).

The Technomancy nerf makes it an 1 in 8 chances for items who have passed the first probability test to actually yield aspect.


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Crafting tables have more than 80 aspects, so are guarenteed to produce an aspect (only 1 in 8 times in the advanced deconstruction table).

Items with higher aspect counts are still only a 1 in 8 chance, so balancing chance to get an aspect vs cost of the items, crafting tables are the best choice.

Did you upgrade the adv. Decinstruction table with a potency gem?
 
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Azzanine

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Plus that table is only ment to automate research points not be faster/ better then the regular one. It merely gives you a choice; spend 15 mins right clicking, or wait an hour plus extra tables that allows you to do other things.
I think it's cleverly balanced. But some indication it's giving you points would be nice. I thought it was not working untill I looked in to my research table to see an few aspects increment every 15 seconds or so.

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It's hard to add non spammy indications. I had around 24 of them hooked and I wouldn't be very happy if I were
spammed 24 times every few seconds.


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Consistent crash on 0.12.1A...

---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Ouch. That hurt :(

Time: 9/30/15 9:50 PM
Description: Ticking block entity

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: bound must be positive
at java.util.Random.nextInt(Random.java:388)
at theflogat.technomancy.common.player.PlayerData.addExistencePower(PlayerData.java:182)
at theflogat.technomancy.lib.handlers.EventRegister.entityDeath(EventRegister.java:172)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.eventhandler.ASMEventHandler_678_EventRegister_entityDeath_LivingDeathEvent.invoke(.dynamic)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.eventhandler.ASMEventHandler.invoke(ASMEventHandler.java:54)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.eventhandler.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:138)
at net.minecraftforge.common.ForgeHooks.onLivingDeath(ForgeHooks.java:303)
at net.minecraft.entity.EntityLivingBase.func_70645_a(EntityLivingBase.java:891)
at net.minecraft.entity.EntityLivingBase.func_70097_a(EntityLivingBase.java:855)
at net.minecraft.entity.monster.EntityMob.func_70097_a(SourceFile:54)
at net.minecraft.entity.monster.EntitySilverfish.func_70097_a(SourceFile:67)
at com.brandon3055.draconicevolution.common.tileentities.TileGrinder.killNextEntity(TileGrinder.java:164)
at com.brandon3055.draconicevolution.common.tileentities.TileGrinder.func_145845_h(TileGrinder.java:107)
at net.minecraft.world.World.func_72939_s(World.java:1939)
at net.minecraft.world.WorldServer.func_72939_s(WorldServer.java:489)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71190_q(MinecraftServer.java:636)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71217_p(MinecraftServer.java:547)
at net.minecraft.server.integrated.IntegratedServer.func_71217_p(IntegratedServer.java:111)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:427)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer$2.run(MinecraftServer.java:685)


A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
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-- Head --
Stacktrace:
at java.util.Random.nextInt(Random.java:388)
at theflogat.technomancy.common.player.PlayerData.addExistencePower(PlayerData.java:182)
at theflogat.technomancy.lib.handlers.EventRegister.entityDeath(EventRegister.java:172)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.eventhandler.ASMEventHandler_678_EventRegister_entityDeath_LivingDeathEvent.invoke(.dynamic)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.eventhandler.ASMEventHandler.invoke(ASMEventHandler.java:54)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.eventhandler.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:138)
at net.minecraftforge.common.ForgeHooks.onLivingDeath(ForgeHooks.java:303)
at net.minecraft.entity.EntityLivingBase.func_70645_a(EntityLivingBase.java:891)
at net.minecraft.entity.EntityLivingBase.func_70097_a(EntityLivingBase.java:855)
at net.minecraft.entity.monster.EntityMob.func_70097_a(SourceFile:54)
at net.minecraft.entity.monster.EntitySilverfish.func_70097_a(SourceFile:67)
at com.brandon3055.draconicevolution.common.tileentities.TileGrinder.killNextEntity(TileGrinder.java:164)
at com.brandon3055.draconicevolution.common.tileentities.TileGrinder.func_145845_h(TileGrinder.java:107)

-- Block entity being ticked --
Details:
Name: draconicevolution:TileGrinder // com.brandon3055.draconicevolution.common.tileentities.TileGrinder
Block type: ID #1616 (tile.draconicevolution:grinder // com.brandon3055.draconicevolution.common.blocks.machine.Grinder)
Block data value: 0 / 0x0 / 0b0000
Block location: World: (398,39,58), Chunk: (at 14,2,10 in 24,3; contains blocks 384,0,48 to 399,255,63), Region: (0,0; contains chunks 0,0 to 31,31, blocks 0,0,0 to 511,255,511)
Actual block type: ID #1616 (tile.draconicevolution:grinder // com.brandon3055.draconicevolution.common.blocks.machine.Grinder)
Actual block data value: 0 / 0x0 / 0b0000
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.world.World.func_72939_s(World.java:1939)
at net.minecraft.world.WorldServer.func_72939_s(WorldServer.java:489)

-- Affected level --
Details:
Level name: Armidan
All players: 1 total; [EntityPlayerMP['Iniquix'/2839, l='Armidan', x=410.43, y=27.00, z=53.98]]
Chunk stats: ServerChunkCache: 1155 Drop: 269
Level seed: -1364617746
Level generator: ID 00 - default, ver 1. Features enabled: true
Level generator options:
Level spawn location: World: (-12,64,-148), Chunk: (at 4,4,12 in -1,-10; contains blocks -16,0,-160 to -1,255,-145), Region: (-1,-1; contains chunks -32,-32 to -1,-1, blocks -512,0,-512 to -1,255,-1)
Level time: 42585094 game time, 42962827 day time
Level dimension: 0
Level storage version: 0x04ABD - Anvil
Level weather: Rain time: 130575 (now: false), thunder time: 85047 (now: false)
Level game mode: Game mode: survival (ID 0). Hardcore: false. Cheats: true
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71190_q(MinecraftServer.java:636)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71217_p(MinecraftServer.java:547)
at net.minecraft.server.integrated.IntegratedServer.func_71217_p(IntegratedServer.java:111)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:427)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer$2.run(MinecraftServer.java:685)

If you really want a random number say, between -3 and 3, then use NextInt(7)-3.
 
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