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Im using multiminecraft premium server with 6 or 7 player always connected, and 20 slots.
Multiverse seems somewhat unnecessary, but perhaps you could tell us more of what purposes you plan to use it for?
@ Эрик: thanks for your reply and please understand that I am not trying to contradict you, I am just following suggestions and steps I have uncovered in my exploration of FTB, Tekkit and MCPC+.
”MCPC+ utilizes non-Bukkit-ported versions of the various plugins which makes it quite the challenge to find server AND client (FML) versions. (what do you mean here?)”
From Bloodshot’s very first sentence in his forum post regarding MCPC+: “We took it one step further this time...removed the need to port mods =). Bukkit plugins no longer need to be remapped as it is done automatically.”
http://www.mcportcentral.co.za/index.php?topic=4657.0
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from the big bold red letters on the page listing 1.4.6 ported mods (since no need to do with 1.4.7): “If you are using the MCPC+ build, mods do not need to be ported, and the ports on this page will not work. Use the normal versions of the mods."
http://mcportcentral.co.za/wiki/index.php?title=Ports_for_1.4.6
"Now, I tried to run regular minecraft (what?) but FML came up with a laundry list of missing mods so instead I ran the FTB launcher which connected me just fine."
Sorry, I should have been more explicit. I launched the (vanilla-with-FML) MineCraft CLIENT and got past the Mojang screen but when I selected Multiplayer I got an error screen asking for all of the missing mods that I assume should have been in “C:/Users/Name/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/Mods”. I then ran the FTB launcher, selected the DireWolf20 modpack and the game ran fine.
"Question: should I look for all of those client-side mods or contine to use the FTB launcher? (explain more; what do you mean exactly?) "
Aside from being easier to run and update, is there a compelling reason to use the FTB launcher rather than downloading all of the missing client-side mods for use with the vanilla-with-FML launcher?
"Lastly, I have not added any plugins yet although I can see that the folder was indeed created. I'm going to try and add 'PermissionsEX', 'Grief Prevention', 'LWC', 'World Border', and 'Multiverse Core' (I read somewhere that 'Multiverse Portals' and 'Multiverse Nether Portals' really mess things up and the whole Multiverse plugin APPEARS to be in process of if not already abandoned). Any warnings or suggestions I should heed? Thanks.
Multiverse seems somewhat unnecessary, but perhaps you could tell us more of what purposes you plan to use it for?"
The server I admin has been running for almost a year and in that time we have seen a lot of code change in addition to the game being officially released. When I first started I thought it would be neat to keep the player made creations and yet offer them the ability to experience new content with friends. In addition I had some concepts I wanted to try – here’s a few: A Skylands world with no monsters to be used for resource gathering only. A post-apocalyptic desert world stuck in perpetual daylight where sunlight causes damage unless armor is worn. A world caught in eternal night where various fortresses dot the landscape offering food and shelter from the constant presence of monsters. A water world where underwater domes and islands would be the norm.
Using the ‘Multiverse’ suite I was able to accomplish this AND that helped me play with the economic aspect as portals cost money to use; each world also had a separate inventory for the player using ‘MultiInv’ and ‘ChestShop’ allowed for the buying and selling of various goods. I also implemented the 'Mailbox' plugin to allow players to transport goods at a price. Think of the main world as a portal hub ala “StarGate”. Currently I have my eye on a few of the zombie mods in order to build an infested world where more significant treasures can be regularly found utilizing the ‘Treasure Chest’ mod.
So thanks again and I look forward to your reply!
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”MCPC+ utilizes non-Bukkit-ported versions of the various plugins which makes it quite the challenge to find server AND client (FML) versions. (what do you mean here?)”
From Bloodshot’s very first sentence in his forum post regarding MCPC+: “We took it one step further this time...removed the need to port mods =). Bukkit plugins no longer need to be remapped as it is done automatically.”
http://www.mcportcentral.co.za/index.php?topic=4657.0
and
from the big bold red letters on the page listing 1.4.6 ported mods (since no need to do with 1.4.7): “If you are using the MCPC+ build, mods do not need to be ported, and the ports on this page will not work. Use the normal versions of the mods."
http://mcportcentral.co.za/wiki/index.php?title=Ports_for_1.4.6
"Now, I tried to run regular minecraft (what?) but FML came up with a laundry list of missing mods so instead I ran the FTB launcher which connected me just fine."
Sorry, I should have been more explicit. I launched the (vanilla-with-FML) MineCraft CLIENT and got past the Mojang screen but when I selected Multiplayer I got an error screen asking for all of the missing mods that I assume should have been in “C:/Users/Name/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/Mods”. I then ran the FTB launcher, selected the DireWolf20 modpack and the game ran fine.
"Question: should I look for all of those client-side mods or contine to use the FTB launcher? (explain more; what do you mean exactly?) "
Aside from being easier to run and update, is there a compelling reason to use the FTB launcher rather than downloading all of the missing client-side mods for use with the vanilla-with-FML launcher?
"Lastly, I have not added any plugins yet although I can see that the folder was indeed created. I'm going to try and add 'PermissionsEX', 'Grief Prevention', 'LWC', 'World Border', and 'Multiverse Core' (I read somewhere that 'Multiverse Portals' and 'Multiverse Nether Portals' really mess things up and the whole Multiverse plugin APPEARS to be in process of if not already abandoned). Any warnings or suggestions I should heed? Thanks.
Multiverse seems somewhat unnecessary, but perhaps you could tell us more of what purposes you plan to use it for?"
The server I admin has been running for almost a year and in that time we have seen a lot of code change in addition to the game being officially released. When I first started I thought it would be neat to keep the player made creations and yet offer them the ability to experience new content with friends. In addition I had some concepts I wanted to try – here’s a few: A Skylands world with no monsters to be used for resource gathering only. A post-apocalyptic desert world stuck in perpetual daylight where sunlight causes damage unless armor is worn. A world caught in eternal night where various fortresses dot the landscape offering food and shelter from the constant presence of monsters. A water world where underwater domes and islands would be the norm.
Using the ‘Multiverse’ suite I was able to accomplish this AND that helped me play with the economic aspect as portals cost money to use; each world also had a separate inventory for the player using ‘MultiInv’ and ‘ChestShop’ allowed for the buying and selling of various goods. I also implemented the 'Mailbox' plugin to allow players to transport goods at a price. Think of the main world as a portal hub ala “StarGate”. Currently I have my eye on a few of the zombie mods in order to build an infested world where more significant treasures can be regularly found utilizing the ‘Treasure Chest’ mod.
So thanks again and I look forward to your reply!
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I realize that mod remapping is done automatically, but why is this an issue? Or am I wrong in that it's an issue? The client just uses all the mods from the modpack and the server does too. Just to clarify, Bukkit plugins are serverside only which I think you realize.
Sorry, I should have been more explicit. I launched the (vanilla-with-FML) MineCraft CLIENT and got past the Mojang screen but when I selected Multiplayer I got an error screen asking for all of the missing mods that I assume should have been in “C:/Users/Name/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/Mods”. I then ran the FTB launcher, selected the DireWolf20 modpack and the game ran fine.
Mods do not get installed into .minecraft unless you put them there yourself. FTB uses a separate directory for all of its minecraft instances. When you run FTB nothing is put into your .minecraft.
Aside from being easier to run and update, is there a compelling reason to use the FTB launcher rather than downloading all of the missing client-side mods for use with the vanilla-with-FML launcher?
No, there's no other reason besides convenience really. Because server and client side config files must match in addition to forge versions matching (typically), as well as mod versions having to match. You could set up your own launcher with source from certain github repositories but FTB is simply more convenient since all the mods and various config files have already been generated. If you want your own set of mods you could always set up a private pack through FTB as well. But any updates will only be pushed every Monday so that might be inconvenient for you.
In the case of multiverse, yes it looks like to do those things you would need the plugin. Although most of it could probably be accomplished with mystcraft and a ruins mod as well. But multiverse would be easiest. I don't have experience with multiverse on a mcpc server though I've seen some people run it. I just don't really know about its performance. Hopefully someone else can fill in here. If you do have trouble with portals from multiverse though, I think mystcraft linking books might be able to connect, but again, that would remove the economy aspect in that it costs nothing to use linking books.
Sorry, I should have been more explicit. I launched the (vanilla-with-FML) MineCraft CLIENT and got past the Mojang screen but when I selected Multiplayer I got an error screen asking for all of the missing mods that I assume should have been in “C:/Users/Name/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/Mods”. I then ran the FTB launcher, selected the DireWolf20 modpack and the game ran fine.
Mods do not get installed into .minecraft unless you put them there yourself. FTB uses a separate directory for all of its minecraft instances. When you run FTB nothing is put into your .minecraft.
Aside from being easier to run and update, is there a compelling reason to use the FTB launcher rather than downloading all of the missing client-side mods for use with the vanilla-with-FML launcher?
No, there's no other reason besides convenience really. Because server and client side config files must match in addition to forge versions matching (typically), as well as mod versions having to match. You could set up your own launcher with source from certain github repositories but FTB is simply more convenient since all the mods and various config files have already been generated. If you want your own set of mods you could always set up a private pack through FTB as well. But any updates will only be pushed every Monday so that might be inconvenient for you.
In the case of multiverse, yes it looks like to do those things you would need the plugin. Although most of it could probably be accomplished with mystcraft and a ruins mod as well. But multiverse would be easiest. I don't have experience with multiverse on a mcpc server though I've seen some people run it. I just don't really know about its performance. Hopefully someone else can fill in here. If you do have trouble with portals from multiverse though, I think mystcraft linking books might be able to connect, but again, that would remove the economy aspect in that it costs nothing to use linking books.
Ok so far this is the second time i have installed mcpc but it still stutters. For some reason when using mcpc on my server its all stuttery on the screen and shit its unplayable. What is causing that?
.Not really. Logblock isnt reccomended for bukkitforge or MCPC+. It dosen't work on eather. Ive never liked logblock in the first place. Ide use coreprotect or hawkeye. Not to hard to change plugin, certainly easyer than having to change from permissionsEX to groupmanager like I did with bukkitforge.
Prism works pretty well with MCPC+, logs modded blocks. So far the only action ive found it cant log is opening of certain bags, i.e. redpowers canvas bags.
After trying ForgeEssentials, Fihgu's mod and MCPC+, I favor MCPC+ by a long shot.
I had many issues with FE from server crashes to many errors in the console (seems it's still in Alpha stage). Fihgu's Mod is a good light weight "basic needs" mod. But, what else can I say about MCPC+? - bukkit plugins, enough said.
Using PEX, Commandbook, WorldEdit, Worldguard with MindCrack mods with no issues so far.
I had many issues with FE from server crashes to many errors in the console (seems it's still in Alpha stage). Fihgu's Mod is a good light weight "basic needs" mod. But, what else can I say about MCPC+? - bukkit plugins, enough said.
Using PEX, Commandbook, WorldEdit, Worldguard with MindCrack mods with no issues so far.
are you sure its logging ftb blocks? and stuff like wand of excavation being used to grief? cause when i tried it it didn't work
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