It really is sad all the problem's I have had with Bukkit forge. The fact that my world edit doesn't work with modded blocks alone makes it unusable for anyone with anything other than a home server. Not to mention that Log block doesn't log anything mod related, and faction/World guard don't protect against damage form mods. Don't even get me started on how multiverse refuses to work with Bukkit (making it really easy to grief spawn's) Half the essentials commands are broke. The way I see it, Bukkit forge should be Illegal until its fixed. MCPC+ has its problems too, but when you compare them to the problems of Bukkit forge, your left with no choice but to use MCPC+. One more thing, its sad how Forge someones to be the standard when you get your server hosted form just about anywhere, That's like endorsing Slavery.