With or without gregtech

[SpitefulFox]

• Centrifuging Lave to get copper, tin and electrum - totally useless outside GregTech

You wouldn't need so much copper, tin, and electrum if GregTech hadn't drastically increased the need for them in the first place. Playing GregTech sans nerfs just to get free copper and tin just feels all kinds of unbalanced to me.

• Clay into Lithium - not like this would be a good power source for steam boilers, right?

Last I checked, boilers don't run on Lithium.

• Steel in the blast furnace - unfortunately there is nothing that would use any steel

Every other mod that uses Steel has significantly more convenient ways to get it. Railcraft's blast furnace doesn't require tons of ores and won't throw an energy-wasting hissy fit when it doesn't get the exact amount of EU's every tick.

• Grinding down Galena ore as another source of lead and silver - nah, sounds stupid

Sounds extremely stupid, actually. Why go through all the trouble of using the finicky Industrial machines to process an ore that only gives you what Silver and Lead Ores already did for less hassle? The other mods get more than enough lead and silver for their uses through their own methods.

• Blocks like Aluminium prevent monster spawning - can't possible think of any use for that

You know what else prevents monster spawning? Torches. And they don't require a blast furnace and compressor.

Do I need to go on? And even if some of the recipes are only used to progress with the GregTech stuff, so what? How is it different from let's say Thaumcraft? What does that mod have, that other mods don't provide in some different way? Heck, by your logic why not just play vanilla?

Thaumcraft is useful for things outside of Thaumcraft. The combat wands are blatantly useful. The Arcane Bore is an excellent auto-miner and can mine anything in the ground whether it's from Thaumcraft or not. The Transmutations are usable for lots of modded ingots that other mods use.

Point is, Thaumcraft is not a self-contained cycle. It fits into a larger modpack and has benefits that apply towards things other than Thaumcraft. GregTech's additions don't feel very useful outside of More GregTech. People are welcome to enjoy the mod all they want, but I don't see the point of removing all the nerfs and adding it to other packs "for all the good things it adds!"

You mean, a rude response to someone's personal opinion about an optional mod? I would do that in a heartbeat.

Maliciously misquoting people to make them look bad? Two can do that.

 

[Vauthil]

I think the distinctiveness of this thread is not the positive sort I want to take the effort to keep the thread open for. Closing this one down.