Bukkit still uses item ids instead of the names.And thats fairly annoying.
Why Update to 1.7
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Bukkit still uses item ids instead of the names.And thats fairly annoying.
Very few use bukkit outside of vanilla without
I prefer writing names instead of numbers. Mutch easier to do. I was really surprised when i realised that they removed this feature.
Eh, misspelling things can be too easy. Each to his own I guess.
I am fairly sure that in vanilla the values are hard-coded (because the ids are constant). Forge (well FML) adds a name=>Block/Item mapping which is populated when mods register blocks/items and initialized with the vanilla blocks/items. On map creation it runs through the map assigning ids to each entry in the map, which then is used for the world and saved with it. On joining the server the map is sent to the client.
Bukkit specifically doesn't add blocks or items (to be completely compatible with vanilla clients) and so there is no reason to make a manager to manage the same IDs as vanilla.
Bukkit specifically doesn't add blocks or items (to be completely compatible with vanilla clients) and so there is no reason to make a manager to manage the same IDs as vanilla.
Why wouldn't they? It's not like vanilla IDs can change.
The name-to-ID mapping is actually a Forge thing. Vanilla just has plain IDs (like before) and names as well.
I know that they have no reason. But i don't think that they have any reason not to make it easier. I did not started to remember the id of everything for the reason i don't need to.
probably.
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Impersonating a mod dev is a bad plan. We do check these things. Usually by going and asking the mod dev. And Bioxx says you are not him. Bye.
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I thought it was blue...?
Really? That's clearly purple to me. May I direct you Rhett and Link's I am a Thoughtful guy?
Well, now I know it's not the wiki's fault I can't tell the difference between links.
No, Vanilla is not hard coded, it just has the advantage of being loaded and registered before any other mod. One of the benefits of having been written by Mojang, y'know. In fact, they've mentioned in several interviews that "Vanilla" blocks are eventually intended to be completely replaceable.[DOUBLEPOST=1402343508][/DOUBLEPOST]
The plan is to remove numeric blocks completely in 1.8.
Mojang's set up will be better. I think its like something what forge does now, with no id mismatches.
Not just numeric ids, but also the data values.No need for modders to take a few ids and than put several blocks there. No id loss on things like bedrock.
Really? There were numerous suggestions to the forge team that they should do some kind of abstract registration API so mods could stop stomping on each others toes, and response was that Forge were waiting on a MC 1.7 feature that would make id's moot.
Yes, really.
There are IDs. The IDs are just managed by Forge, in a way that affects mods slightly less than it would have if they'd implemented it in 1.6.
1.8 won't change it either. The ID management code will just move to vanilla.
It was always a given that ids were not going away. Storing map data using ids is much much more efficient. What needed to change, what apparently did change, was that mods now have to ask for an id, rather than specifying an id. A change Forge could have implemented much earlier than 1.7
If this wasn't a base feature, why the @#$( did Forge wait so long?
Because using static config files is easier to implement, and has the same results.
Instead of handling IDs in 1.7, mods and vanilla handle actual blocks and items. The IDs can change with less risk of things breaking.
I don't think there was much risk of things breaking before, considering IDs would only change before you load a world or connect to a server.
I should bring this link up every time someone mentions ID problems