Werewolf - Villagers vs. Zombies - Game thread

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Pyure

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Took me a second to find this.

Pyure said:
In my experience, locking a vote is usually a good guy strategy. It shows conviction and, to be honest, a lack of strategy.
Bad guys need to be more flexible and adjust their voting to suit such. They need to be able to change their voting at the last second (to look like they're part of the mob usually)

From http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/werewolf-unfair-wolf-game-thread.52856/page-28#post-797853

I have, shall we say, very good reasons for my lock. Bye bye fraction2.
 
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Fraction2

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And I would expect someone like you (who posted that for everyone to see) would know that.
Locking your vote this early is silly, especially for someone like you who knows what they're doing.

You know that locking makes you look like a villager, so you do. If you remember, you posted the wolf conversation back in trajing's last game. You told goreae that the locked vote was brilliant, because it was a move that made him strongly resemble a villager.

Anybody else that wants to see this can: here
 

Pyure

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And I would expect someone like you (who posted that for everyone to see) would know that.
You know that locking makes you look like a villager, so you do. If you remember, you posted the wolf conversation back in trajing's last game. You told goreae that the locked vote was brilliant, because it was a move that made him strongly resemble a villager.

Anybody else that wants to see this can: here

I'd forgotten that conversation completely. I was worried that I contradicted this theory at some point, but that really reinforces it instead. Thanks :)

Also: I don't buy into WIFOM arguments. Yes, I think locking is a strong villager move. Period.
 

Fraction2

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I don't buy into WIFOM arguments.

WIFOM arguments (how people act) are pretty much all we have to use in Werewolf. We can't cite any hard forensic evidence, because we physically can't accomplish that.

We HAVE to determine votes based on how people act.
 

Pyure

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WIFOM arguments (how people act) are pretty much all we have to use in Werewolf. We can't cite any hard forensic evidence, because we physically can't accomplish that.

We HAVE to determine votes based on how people act.
That's different than wifom arguments. Trying to guess how many times a person's predictability is going to cancel out is stupid. Make your best guess and go with it.

In this case, I have a list of characteristics which are "wolfy" and "villagery", and I don't have anything like "but this person is so smart that he'll manipulate my data." I'd have to throw my whole system out the window.
 

ljfa

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The Librarian role as it is now seems fairly useless. What if I change it so that he will instead recieve two names, one of which is the convert?