After sometime playing with dw20's mod pack, I decided to start researching with thaumcraft, and the gold wand caps research doesn's seems to work. I've tried with most of my aspects and nothing discovers a new rune, I have moved the active runes several times trying different positions but nothing seems to work.
Thaumcraft 4 research not completing
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This makes this what, the fifth forum post asking about this now? Google, people.
I'd have to agree, but it's a dumb/common enough glitch that I can see why it's constantly reported. A few researches, this one included, have a disturbingly high chance of impossibility.
I'm a little bothered it hasn't been fixed, or even noticeably addressed.
It's intended, to feel more like research.
Occasionally, you get things wrong.
Yeah, I don't really know what's informing the research design in the Thaumcraft 4, but between impossible researches and the new aspect scanning mechanic, it's just not fun. I've been trying to research gold caps and I had to throw away 4 different researches because they were probably not going to give me what I need. Not too big a deal, but when those 4 researches represented 8 aspects of the greed aspect that's taken me over a week to find, it's aggravating. I could simply make more of the greed aspect since I have about 50 of each primal aspect, but it'll take a while and at the end, I'll still probably end up with impossible research. Or, I could go do something that's neither tedious nor rage-inducing.
The really aggravating researches aren't even the absolutely impossible ones. It's the ones that are so very close but the last rune is just one slot away. You end up spending all your research trying to make it happen until you eventually have to give up.
I've found that a little familiarity with TC4 research and I'm able to spot the impossible researches right off.
A little tip, to make things less aggravating. Rush getting the research boosters. Use the Cognito aspect and you will be guaranteed to get Research Expertise, Research Mastery and the Deconstruction Table as your first 3, and those will make things much, much easier.
A little tip, to make things less aggravating. Rush getting the research boosters. Use the Cognito aspect and you will be guaranteed to get Research Expertise, Research Mastery and the Deconstruction Table as your first 3, and those will make things much, much easier.
To be fair, trying to find anything involving Thaumcraft 4 via google mostly returns Thuamcraft 3 stuff.
checked out http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/thr...-back-to-the-update-with-doc-succubism.32560/ ? i found this was a real help when i was doing TC4 research
Yea, but really? It could be so that you'd have to use more points to solve the research, but I will agree that it adds that bit of "realism" (I know, forbidden word) that research has. Like you said, you may get things wrong.
TC3 research was never that bad. It required a lot of weird things, but frankly that was cool and added a nice mechanic to it. Of course, one could argue that any even semi-competent modpack has plenty of ways to get, as you claim, "stacks of gold and diamonds", but let's not even start on that.
I don't mind realism. But real research doesn't run on magical, nonexistent points, and more importantly, randomly fail miserably without cause. And while I can see obvious impossible researches for miles away, don't attempt to claim someone can realistically see the 1-point research fails on 5-rune pages (which happens way, WAY to often).
I actually think TC should scrap research entirely for TC5 - it wouldn't actually need that many tweaks, as it's decently balanced as is sans research - because IMO you won't ever find a research system that most people like, or at least that's how it appears at this rate. We've clearly proven that mass items (TC2) and puzzles (TC4) are disliked by many potential fans of the mod (hell, if the research wasn't so painful I'd have half my stuff be TC4), which brings us to TC3.....er, the issue most people had, including myself, was that research was painful to do after about 2 worlds. Still an issue, and I don't see that changing no matter what Azanor does.
well, if Azanor removes randomness of research notes i.e. allows players to choose what they want to research and reduces amount of "scancraft" required then TC should be in a decent spot.
I can see TC5 ending with me either redoing the cheat sheets from scratch or having them become obsolete entirely. Ugh.
Another case of "This is why we can't have nice things."
Another case of "This is why we can't have nice things."
In an effort to not start a new thread -- since people seem irritated -- I'm just tacking onto this one. Am I not seeing the proper path, or is this another impossible research? Really want the Equal Trade focus.
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looks like impossible - you are 1 rune short.Am I not seeing the proper path, or is this another impossible research?
The point of randomising research is intended because if you haven't learned the fundamentals of freakin' dirt, how are you expected to know an infernal furnace exists and how to research it? How is this not obvious.
All I'm saying is if Azanor insists on trying to please everyone with this research, he had better please everyone or I'm gonna bitch and moan like a child until he changes it because obviously that's how this community works.
All I'm saying is if Azanor insists on trying to please everyone with this research, he had better please everyone or I'm gonna bitch and moan like a child until he changes it because obviously that's how this community works.