So, enchanting books...

[Zaik]

...work on tools from mods.

Well, not perfectly. Unbreaking won't reduce EU costs, but most seem to work perfectly fine. Efficiency V on an advanced diamond drill is like mining netherrack all the time. Obsidian takes about as long as a stone pick takes on cobblestone.

They also seem to circumvent most of the rules regarding enchant limits and caps on normal weapons. Slap as many max level enchants as you can find on them. You still can't get multiple or conflicting enchants, but you can put 5 different enchants on a bow no sweat.

A bit pricy at 28/book with no clue wtf you're getting and often having to go on to combine multiple books to get the max level version, but what else are you going to do with all that experience that has served no purpose up until now?

 

[BanzaiBlitz]

Someone said a while ago that IC2 was working on blocking tool enchanting for things like the drill. I do not know the mechanics of it all, but at least in the IC2 tech lines, enchanting is covered in the tool itself in a way. GregTech went a step farther with the Rock Cutter being an EU driven Silk Touch III.

 

[Zaik]

I'm torn.

On one hand, it makes mining silly when you're destroying stone blocks and most ores faster than you can walk up to them. On the other, it wasn't exactly cheap. I got lucky and got efficiency once out of the who knows how many possibilities with mod enchants and whatnot. dumped 90 levels into books, got one good one. wasn't until after that I decided to play around and test it.

Always felt like the whole enchanting system was useless beyond using silk touch/fortune because you could only enchant temporary items and the repair system is horrible. This kind of gives it an actual point.

 

[thezeronumber]

I'm not exactly sure what enchanting books are capable of but if the end result feels too easy - like it's a broken or over-looked thing - then stop using it.

 

[raiju]

I'm torn.

On one hand, it makes mining silly when you're destroying stone blocks and most ores faster than you can walk up to them. On the other, it wasn't exactly cheap. I got lucky and got efficiency once out of the who knows how many possibilities with mod enchants and whatnot. dumped 90 levels into books, got one good one. wasn't until after that I decided to play around and test it.

Always felt like the whole enchanting system was useless beyond using silk touch/fortune because you could only enchant temporary items and the repair system is horrible. This kind of gives it an actual point.

Enchanting has always been stronger than drills.

Mining laser destroys them though, and the excavation wand is a cheap way of ranged mining. I always use enchanted tools until I get mining laser, than I make myself an advanced lappack (at a minimum) and walk around with my 1200000 EU ranged instant mining device. I tend to use silk touch efficiency picks for iridium though (rock cutter takes sooo long)

I'm not sure if direwolf pack excludes both, but gregtech and twilight forest both have ways to get lots of exp fast if you know what yo uare doing. Vanilla has the nether fortresses that are always good exp farms that require 0 setup, there is also the possibility of creating your own super-charged mob spawners with soul shards, although I haven't used it yet.

 

[Larroke]

Hmm.. efficiency V on an advanced mining drill may give me a stroke.. "I just need to cut out this one block... OH &$^$*$(# Now I have 16 machine blocks"...

But.. Silk Touch on a mining drill sounds way sexy, or efficiency on a Rock Cutter....

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Fortune on a Diamond Drill would be the only enchantment which would be relevant to my interests. It already can mine 'too fast' in situations where I don't want it to go through everything behind it.

I really don't see the point in Silk Touch, really. It's only really useful on Diamonds, and even then, you're better off with Fortune. Maybe on Glowstone, if you want the actual glowstone and not the dust.

 

[SilvasRuin]

Fortune does not work on Uranium, Iridium, and I'm wanting to think there's one I'm forgetting about. Those two at least do get more yields when macerated. The Macerator competes rather well with Fortune III for Redstone Dust, and the Industrial Grinder seems to be lucrative for anything you can shove into it.

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Fortune does not work on Uranium, Iridium, and I'm wanting to think there's one I'm forgetting about. Those two at least do get more yields when macerated. The Macerator competes rather well with Fortune III for Redstone Dust, and the Industrial Grinder seems to be lucrative for anything you can shove into it.

I have no interest in Uranium or Irridium, and I don't play with Gregtech so the latter never spawns anyways. Likewise with the Industrial Grinder.

 

[SilvasRuin]

The point was that there is a point to Silk Touch. "No point" and "no personal interest" are two entirely different things.

 

[Larroke]

Silk touch has other uses... Leaves, Ice, cobwebs, bookshelves, ETC which can be useful building materials or used in mods like thaumcraft. Silk Touch has more uses then just getting more drops out of some ores. and yes, of course you can uses some machines to get some of these items, but that's not the point.

IF you break a IC2 machine with a silk touch pick do you get that machine in all cases? If so.. then it doubles as an electric wrench for disassembly. if not, then you have some machine blocks to sort out

Plus... getting more coal, redstone, lapiz, dusts of any type then a traditional mining drill will provide. Of course a good old fortune enchant on a mining drill is likely just as effective.

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Silk touch has other uses... Leaves, Ice, cobwebs, bookshelves, ETC which can be useful building materials or used in mods like thaumcraft. Silk Touch has more uses then just getting more drops out of some ores. and yes, of course you can uses some machines to get some of these items, but that's not the point.

I can get leaves out of my chainsaw, since it functions as shears. The Ice-in-the-nether trick doesn't work anymore, and I can simply use my Compressor if I want some. Cobwebs, really? Bookshelves is a valid point, I'll give you, but even there, it's just some planks to rebuild it.

IF you break a IC2 machine with a silk touch pick do you get that machine in all cases? If so.. then it doubles as an electric wrench for disassembly. if not, then you have some machine blocks to sort out

You'll have some machine blocks to sort out.

Plus... getting more coal, redstone, lapiz, dusts of any type then a traditional mining drill will provide. Of course a good old fortune enchant on a mining drill is likely just as effective.

Which was my point. Fortune is probably better for getting those resources.

 

[Mero]

I'm not sure if direwolf pack excludes both, but gregtech and twilight forest both have ways to get lots of exp fast if you know what yo uare doing.

DW pack has Soul Shards.

I am already sporting 4 tier 5 skeleton spawners that spawn up to 6 skeletons every 2 seconds no matter if I am close to them or not and can be turned off with a redstone signal. Combine that with Thaumcraft's Brain in a Jar to store xp and vanilla splash potions of healing and a couple of minutes will get you well more than 30 lvls.

I really don't see the point in Silk Touch, really. It's only really useful on Diamonds, and even then, you're better off with Fortune. Maybe on Glowstone, if you want the actual glowstone and not the dust.

It's all about saving space. A stack of diamond/lapis/coal/redstone.......ores takes up much less space than the same items fortuned while out in the field.
Even with the upgraded forestry bags it never hurts to save as much inventory space as possible.

 

[danidas]

The best tactic is to silk touch any ore that does not drop in block from and then use a fortune pick on them once back at your base. This way you can collect a larger amount of ores per mining trip before filling your inventory. In addition a good trick is to use a ender pouch connected to your sorting system to dump off any ores that will not benefit from fortune. So that they will be auto processed at your chunk loaded base as you mine.

 

[Larroke]

Which was my point. Fortune is probably better for getting those resources.

remember though, if your manually mining, silk touched ore blocks of all those elements take up significantly less space in your bags then the dusts themselves.

 

[Celestialphoenix]

Given how cheap XP is, and how little you need to advance levels, the whole enchanting system is somewhat overpowered.
(a single mining trip will give me about 50 levels)

I feel it should be blocked, not because its op, but because enchanting a mechanical tool doesn't make any sense (even for MC). Secondly, with normal tools you have to either repair (clunky badly thought out mechanic), or re-enchant. Here, you do it once and keep them forever.

I
On one hand, it makes mining silly when you're destroying stone blocks and most ores faster than you can walk up to them.

Have you ever mined with a vajra?

 

[netmc]

I would love to see a silk touch drill in the IC2 miner. That would be awesome. So what if you have to move it around manually...

 

[raiju]

remember though, if your manually mining, silk touched ore blocks of all those elements take up significantly less space in your bags then the dusts themselves.

Canvas bags

 

[Mero]

Canvas bags

I am actually on my 5th bag just carrying around stuff I need/want to build stuff. Stuff like Pipes, engines, tools, redstone, Jacketed wires.........I love them but they don't really hold that much. Upgraded forestry bags hold much more but are a bit harder to get upgraded.
Alchemy bags would be great but I have yet to find a recipe for them.

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Canvas bags

Miner's Backpack.