Should ic2 be boycotted untill the power system is fixed ??
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I tested yesterday to see if they worked on the food crops like sweetcorn. They don't unfortunately. I have heard they work on the other crops before though but I already set up my MFR space for them so I didn't test that. It would be great if it did work though. I really like fans because they are one of a very small number of farming machines that take advantage of the vanilla mechanic that crops planted in rows have a greater chance of growing per world tick.
That's pretty much exactly my thoughts (except for the scaffolding because I always forget about that
).Actually I put some thought into this as I consider replacing the crop system one of the mods I'd like to make if I ever get into modding minecraft.
As that currently is a very big if, I'll share my ideas, everyone is free to take up on them.
- Make it a simple mod (my name idea was something like "Simple Crops"), KISS-principle all the way. The only item in it would be the crop sticks. No cross-breeding shenanigans
- Mostly keep to the basic functionality (make vanilla crops more convenient), maybe some simple mod crops (barley, canola etc)
- Rebalance it. It makes things more convenient, so give it some caveat. Crops that do not need replanting (reeds, melons, pumpkin) grow slower, others don't drop their seeds (wheat) or drop less (carrots, potatoes) with vanilla growth speed.
- Make it work with mechanics people are used to. Growth enhancers work (eg Bonemeal, lamp of growth, etc). Autofarmers (eg MFR, golems, etc.) work
Ehm yeah in essence the 1.6 E net works like you describe due to the fact that the team disabled explosions of cables. So you can run endless EU/t through cables without them burning out, which is sadly exploitable. This is perhaps the one gripe I have against the IC2 team, that they left it hanging here in 1.6 as they moved onto 1.7.
Yeah its easy to make assumptions about other people isn't it? I loathe how every new mod(perhaps except Reikas) is all about "simpler, more efficient, more intuitive". I want some complexity back into the game. I liked that engines exploded when they didn't have anything to consume its power. That meant I had to be creative with automatic controls to automate turning them on and off. I don't want 6x ore multiplication. I thought fatorizations 3x was a stretch, but it was offset by its long cycle time of the crystallizer. And I liked the TC3 aura system where the nodes worked as a giant network sharing vis, it was brilliantly made!
And I can only shake my head of all the people shouting that IC2E brings nothing new to the table. No it is not a complete rewrite of the mod. but if you actually take the time to try it out you will see that a lot of new things and content have been added and updated. And if we actually had more of the IC2 support mods in the popular packs, then I am sure it would be a whole lot more popular. Take Gravisuite for example, it add upgrades to the IC2 Diamond drill that makes the TiCo tools seem like children's toys.
Boycott... Meh. IndustrialCraft has its audience so you're just starting a flame war. The growth of the modding community has added LOTS of choices and information which negates the need to focus so desperately on one mod.
You aren't chained to IC2 like the 1.4 FTB packs were. You have access to configs andplenty of guides on how to alter them. There's lots of ways to compile your own modpack and use only those mods you enjoy. There's also more launchers and modpacks out there. Essentially you have choices other than trying to force one mod to be something its not.
If anything, the changes in IndustrialCraft have definitely become more polarizing. So take from that what you will. But please don't draw the trolls out with a boycott post.
You aren't chained to IC2 like the 1.4 FTB packs were. You have access to configs andplenty of guides on how to alter them. There's lots of ways to compile your own modpack and use only those mods you enjoy. There's also more launchers and modpacks out there. Essentially you have choices other than trying to force one mod to be something its not.
If anything, the changes in IndustrialCraft have definitely become more polarizing. So take from that what you will. But please don't draw the trolls out with a boycott post.
It's when people get together and bitch in unison, AFAIK.
My thoughts on IC2EX: We don't need to boycott a WIP product, let alone a rebuild of an OLD old mod. Should we all stop using it? If it wasn't any fun anymore, and was glitchy as hell, had no cool content, and never did, then sure. But then we wouldn't be using things like OreSpawn either, as that fits into that group.
But because we have plenty of options, should we move away from IC2? Again, it's not needed to have a exodus from it due to new mods cropping up. If it was dead, sure, have your exodus and come back to the land of "up to date mods". Now it's on 1.7 for cripes sake. We're technically falling behind.
If you don't like it, don't use it. Nobody ain't gonna boycott it en masse because some people still like it and use it.
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I guess we should also boycott minecraft, as that isn't finished either.
That and the rest of the mods people make since they're in a constant state of development.
The biggest problem for gaming forums is that OP stands for overpowered and original poster. For a second there I was reading your post as if you meant punching wood was overpowered, which is a rather extreme point-of-view and also off-topic.
I don't really agree with the original poster on this, but I don't think throwing around attacks is necessary either. Maybe restrict comments to "I don't agree" instead of variations on "you're an idiot"?
Yep, you can hire some RotaryCraft fans and they would collect crops for you for a small amount of HSLA steel.
What are exactly the changes OP is talking about, BTW?
IC2 power no longer transmits via eu per packet, but rather by eu per tick, more or less similar to some other familiar systems such as RF.
Likewise the wires now have a maximum capacity similar to BC or TE wires.
Basically, you used to be able to send tons of power down a IC2 line so long as it was sent in "sufficiently small pieces". You can't do that anymore.
I see benefits to all systems and have no real opinion on the matter.
Well, I haven't used IC2 for quite a long time... The whole "voltage" concept in IC2 was quite artifical before. How losses are calculated now? What happened to solar trees? Is the only good way to generate power still either spamming widmills/solars or making stupid single-block supersolars/superwindmills?
So while I admit I wasted my prime chance for this, it's never too late for a MEME.
And thus sums up my thoughts on this thread as per OPs intent.
Keep Calm and Carry On.
And thus sums up my thoughts on this thread as per OPs intent.
Keep Calm and Carry On.
I thought the concept was kind of interesting and made for coolish energy grids. I liked the idea that high voltage could overwhelm a system (but would have preferred to see machines go into "broken" state rather than explode, personally).
Power is easily created in similar methods to RF. Basically you can do the good old treefarm/steam turbine thing if that's your style, or import lava, or go nuclear. I myself steered clear of lava, solar and wind to keep things interesting.
Is it sad that my solution has been to install enough transformer upgrades in everything to run on an 8k grid and only supply 8k power to the line?