RedPower for FTB 1.5

[Dravarden]

I'm pretty sure that signal strength is integrally tied into those states (without the states, no signal strength). If I'm wrong, correct me, but I'd like to see your logic behind your statements.

Redpower and 1.4.7 redstone have 2 states, ON or OFF, machines only care about the on or off state to do their job, in 1.5, the comparator can dectect the signal state (from 1 to 15 or off) and do stuff with it, redpower does not have 255 different states, only 2.

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Okay so it's been a while but... At least she has previously tweeted she's working on it!!
Give her chance. She's got a lot of work to do!!

1.4.7 is out, sill waiting for the 1.4.6 bugfix.

oh, and that is 19 of feb, today is 12 of april, almost 2 months.

 

[stamgast]

what ar you all making a fuss about what would you guys have elo communication to the community and taking time of of converting everything to 1.5 or working on the mod and converting it. remember all you can complain as much as you want it still does not make a difference as rp2 is a mod there for you don't pay for it and she owes the community nothing. in a sens that it is mandatory . be glad there is rp2 and hope there will be an update. every time when vanilla update we go around in the same circle again same questions same complains.
we (users) don't know whats going on. do we need to i don't think so just wait till ftb update and then we got or answer.
for me Elo is doing a hell of a good job and i think rp2 is one of the best mods around. and i hope she will keep it up. but people should show some more respect towards her and other mods for the awesome work they ar doing .
again they AR doing this all out of the kindness of there hearts not because we pay them!!

 

[Naquada]

Just because some1 aint that active in the spotlight does not mean they have quit the game. In rp2 we are on tech 3 or something. Theres plan for tech 4-5.( and thats old news these days. I thought i read earlier thar eloram had a busy real life. Alot us us devolopers don't sit on the pc every day( even weeks) like teenagers usualy do. Theres far more interesting things in the real life to do than coding.
So tl;dr:
Theres a bugfix coming.
Theres port to 1.5 on the way
Theres content coming "soon".

And it me express the concept of time defined by Valve and Blizzard: "soon" TM
Patience padawans

 

[Belone]

Have I missed something in this thread? No one seemed to be saying "Hurry up Elo", it was merely a discussion about whether RP2 is still needed now that we have alternatives, and then suddenly people are telling off no one for having a go at Elo.

So back on topic, I hope that RP2 does get a 1.5 update, I agree we do have alternatives now, but there is a certain beauty about RP2. I think I'll probably use the alternatives mentioned earlier and then consider a switch to RP2 once it's ready.

 

[GearSB]

Right now, I'm wondering if Elo's been hit by a bus.

Which is no doubt a big concern of all of us.

The fact that other mod authors, who are in the best position to communicate with Elo feel that it's necessary to start duplicating RP2 functionality is a very worrying sign.

Elo's had 2 month absences before, but we're starting to hit the wall here. Another week and I think this will be the longest absence yet.

 

[RetroGamer1224]

No..not really. Please don't use all when some of us don't really care one way or another. Maybe some people make mods just because and they are not trying to duplicate anything.

 

[13552]

I made a long post on this topic on the other thread discussing it.

Basically, the biggest two reasons to keep redpower are:

1) There are replacements for most things, but still nothing like frames. They are my favorite part of Redpower, and until someone else makes something with similar functionality (not just being able to move blocks like Ugocraft, I mean the ability to create tunnel bores, etc.), I'm going to have a really hard time giving up RP2.

2) I want to keep my world. To me that's a big reason for a 'professional' modpack like FTB, otherwise I'd just go download mods myself so I could have exactly what I want. I don't want to have to reset, and since RP2 adds so many blocks that so many people use so often, it wouldn't be practical to just "replace" them when porting a world, in most cases.

I think this discussion makes sense if Elo announced she was abandoning it, or if it were August and all other mods had updated, but 1.5 basically just came out, let's give her some time.

 

[LittleMike]

I made a long post on this topic on the other thread discussing it.

Basically, the biggest two reasons to keep redpower are:

1) There are replacements for most things, but still nothing like frames. They are my favorite part of Redpower, and until someone else makes something with similar functionality (not just being able to move blocks like Ugocraft, I mean the ability to create tunnel bores, etc.), I'm going to have a really hard time giving up RP2.

2) I want to keep my world. To me that's a big reason for a 'professional' modpack like FTB, otherwise I'd just go download mods myself so I could have exactly what I want. I don't want to have to reset, and since RP2 adds so many blocks that so many people use so often, it wouldn't be practical to just "replace" them when porting a world, in most cases.

I think this discussion makes sense if Elo announced she was abandoning it, or if it were August and all other mods had updated, but 1.5 basically just came out, let's give her some time.

I think the whole point is not that RP2 should be dropped, it's that it should be *considered* whether to drop it in the near future - if the other mods are up to date and Elo hasn't been heard from. This would apply to all mods dragging behind and holding everyone else up. This is also taking Elo's history into consideration as well as the fact that she has not been heard from even by her testers.

 

[Cieronph]

Why do people feel we either update or dont, there is more than one pack, and even if they do update you can still play older versions, its not a matter of update or not, its a matter of which packs should we update and which should we keep on 1.4.7 until rp2 updates no matter what

 

[hotblack desiato]

as I wrote before: it shouldn't be a problem to split one or two packs into "classic-rp2" and "new". the new package doesn't contain rp2, the classic package does.

there is just the issue, that more and more mods contain own implementations of the original rp2-ideas. so, one day, it could happen, that rp2 is just redundand. everything from rp2 is in other mods, and with active modders and active communities, these ideas evolve.

true, every modder does his mods just as a hobby, and playing minecraft is a hobby too. so, no one should force players to actively wait for a certain mod. everyone has to choose for himself.

 

[RetroGamer1224]

Thing is FTB can make one pack without RP. That is fine. If Mindcrack and DW20 want to wait that is fine too. No need to split packs seeing how Mindcrack and DW20 say what goes in and out of their packs. Same with Yogscraft.

 

[Cieronph]

The things is thats not really true, look at thermal expansion and ic2 they do pretty much the same thing are they redundant

 

[4oh3]

The things is thats not really true, look at thermal expansion and ic2 they do pretty much the same thing are they redundant

I don't really think you can compare the two. IC2 is in permanent beta and hasn't had any meaningful changes while ThermEx is consistently improving and evolving.

IC2 is another dinosaur, people are just reluctant to let it go because they're stuck in the Solar Panel/UU-Matter circlejerk.

 

[RetroGamer1224]

Two words for IC2. GregTech.

I think what Ciero means is both can double ore, have power, provide neat tools, etc.

 

[Cieronph]

I don't really think you can compare the two. IC2 is in permanent beta and hasn't had any meaningful changes while ThermEx is consistently improving and evolving.

IC2 is another dinosaur, people are just reluctant to let it go because they're stuck in the Solar Panel/UU-Matter circlejerk.

I can compare them because they are very similar, the reason ic2 is liked is because it works and people understand it. Im not saying one isnt better than the other I'm just saying lots of the mods have similar functionality

 

[Stormcrown]

People really need to stop being white knights for Elo. No is attacking her. It gets really old when people misunderstand discussions like this and immediately start raising shields and calling people down.

People are basically saying there needs to be a second method to accomplish the things RP2 does. Most things in FTB have 2-3 ways of accomplishing them. (ore processing, sorting systems, etc).

Lots of the RP2 stuff have no backups.

People are just saying we need to be prepared. As cited many times, even other popular mod authors are saying we need to be prepared if something happens to RP2. Those guys/girls would probably know more about how desperate the situation is more than anyone else. There are solid sources saying Elo's testers haven't heard from her in almost a year. In a few weeks we will reach the point where we have had one update in a year.

There's no other mod where people who defend it this much at a simple discussion of having some backups of its functionality. It's such an odd phenomenon.

 

[celo747]

i don't see why mods just don't stay in a version and just work on adding more stuff and fixing bugs instead of having to update to a new minecraft version that is pointless and adds nothing mods could not do them self's or have done that minecraft is just copying

thinking about for 5 minutes taking redpower out would leave us with the very bad bc pipes which drop items send items down the wrong path unless you are using iron then you have to set it up correctly or it will not work which is a pain when you have a line of 30 blocks that are outputting or you want to make items go down the same pipe different ways

to the above guy saying people are not attacking her is some what wrong since people are calling her hard work useless old

 

[4oh3]

You could use BC pipes, sure. Or you could use AE and route everything right into the ME system which is exceptionally versatile.

... and the 115 bug fixes, lighting engine changes, redstone behavior, inventory management and texture pack handling changes (no more pack breaking when new blocks are added) are more than enough reasons to update Minecraft. Bug fixes are -always- a good reason, of themselves, to update.

 

[Lambert2191]

actually, the update isn't that big.

Incorrect. Every texture needs decompiling and recompiling. Seperately. For EVERY SINGLE ITEM! The update is huge for something like RP2, so how about instead of blowing smoke up your ass with fallacies you invent and call facts, you actually use your brain and find out real facts.
Heres another fact, mods like Soul Shards, Railcraft, Forestry aren't done yet. Why aren't you crying about those?

 

[seannyyx]

Incorrect. Every texture needs decompiling and recompiling. Seperately. For EVERY SINGLE ITEM! The update is huge for something like RP2, so how about instead of blowing smoke up your ass with fallacies you invent and call facts, you actually use your brain and find out real facts.
Heres another fact, mods like Soul Shards, Railcraft, Forestry aren't done yet. Why aren't you crying about those?

Forestry is dead!
Such a useless mod and sirsengir doesn't update enough blah blah
Loads of good alternatives that are already updated that can easily replace this mod and it won't really effect much.
Should just be removed from FTB

Oh and rail craft is annoying and stupid. Rather use the vanilla crafting so much more fun.