Unless something magical happens with modding for 1.8, I most likely won't be updating. My PC can't handle it and I'm not buying a new PC just to play Minecraft. But that's just me.
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Same here. Vanilla 1.8 is about half the framerate of vanilla 1.7, and on my cheapskate dumpster-find box with a $30 GPU that makes it just barely playable - and this is before we install any mods.
LOL. My system is older. It was a solid machine when I bought it and it still does everything I need it to at this point. Minecraft is the only thing that taxes my system. Heck, its the only reason I even bought a gpu.
But 1.8 sucks on my system. I'm happy in 1.7.10 getting ~20fps once I have tons of machines running. Early to mid game, I still float at ~40fps. Maybe in the Fall I'll build a system for $600 or so. Console money if I bought extra controllers and stuff.
At least there's more people against than for, though.
(Note: I'm against DRM, but not one of those weird e-zealots who thinks all forms of copyright should be burned at the stake. Money = Ok, DRM = Not Ok)
The only exception is Forestry bee-bombing tekkit. I didn't have MC when it happened, but that story makes me giggle.
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Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
I'm certainly in a minority; but I'm pleasantly surprised by the number of people who dislike minimaps- I always thought it around 1-2%.
I would hesitate to draw many conclusions from that survey; there's a lot wrong with it, notably the sample size and sample representation.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
I've decided that it is an accurate representation of the active community, but not the general one
I was also surprised by it. I wonder how many of those people make roads and other landmarks. I know I do, all thanks to BTW.
But, what does 'active community' mean? Active on the forums? Active players? You might make a case for the former, I suppose, but not the latter. I consider myself to be part of the 'active community', but I had no idea the survey even existed until it was linked in this thread.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
Short of Mojang doing an official herd census on us folks you'd struggle to get an accurate representation of the community.
Still this is all we got and data is data; as long as you remain aware of the inherent limitations then data is good.
Actually, I'd suggest that bad data is worse than no data, and data of unknown validity must be presumed bad until proven otherwise. Regardless, we're veering into off-topic land, so I'll bow out of this debate. /bow
Minimaps are cheaty and unrealistic, IMO. That's just me though.
I tend to think of them more like an in-game GPS system. Sure, you can use raw coordinates and Notepad, but the GPS makes things a lot simpler. 'Sides, almost every game has a minimap nowadays, the fact that Minecraft doesn't by default has always struck me as an intentional design flaw. Even Ultima VII had an automap (though, you had to have a sextant and it wasn't an always-on map), and it was made in 1992. This is just my personal preference, though; getting lost in games detracts from the fun value, for me, since I'm wasting time trying to find my way when I could be spending that time actually doing things.
Well it said "should they be allowed to have DRM", not "Are you okay with mods having DRM" or something. Many people stand by peoples' rights to add DRM to their mods. Like me. I wouldn't encourage or endorse DRM in mods, but I'm not going to throw a hissy fit if it happens. I don't like DRM, but if you do, then that's your problem. So yeah, I'd be in the yes column.
I always get a little confused about issues about things being unrealistic in Minecraft, of all things, though I still sort of understand. The main thing, for me, is that it can be hard to tell where you are in the world when view distance, even at the high end (which isn't always technically possible) can sometimes be too low to have view of nearby landmarks. If vision wasn't 'unrealistic' in that way, a means to easily remember where everything is would be less important, I think.
That^^^
Can you imagine trying to get around the real world if you could only see 160m in front of you at all times?
That reminds me of the "Real world Minecraft moments" thread. If your view distance is so far then the real world must have good occlusion culling and level of details algorithms for this high framerate...
I personally like minimaps, but I'm a filthy casual who minetweaker'd the quarry recipe to only require three diamonds total in my mod pack.
As for the validity of the results: I'd say it's a fair sample of the portion community who knows what they're doing (uses mods, posts on forums, maybe has dabbled in content creation, etc). It doesn't matter that not everyone found their way to it; that's the nature of the sample. I would say that this is good data, and therefore better than no data.
As I said in the modded news thread, it'll never be totally unbiased because the only people who will find the survey are pre-disposed towards "good-citizen" answers.
As for the validity of the results: I'd say it's a fair sample of the portion community who knows what they're doing (uses mods, posts on forums, maybe has dabbled in content creation, etc). It doesn't matter that not everyone found their way to it; that's the nature of the sample. I would say that this is good data, and therefore better than no data.
As I said in the modded news thread, it'll never be totally unbiased because the only people who will find the survey are pre-disposed towards "good-citizen" answers.