Really stupid things that people have said about Modded MC(Off topicness makes moderators tired)

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Is this a good idea?

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    Votes: 66 18.2%
  • No

    Votes: 18 5.0%
  • if people don't get out of control

    Votes: 68 18.8%
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Lethosos

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...you just want to see men modeling women's underwear.

Am I right or am I right?

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TomeWyrm

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*whistles*
So what do yall think about people using gender-biases in advertising
*whistles*
Pretty much the same thing I think about advertising as it is currently done by companies. It needs to go away. Things need advertisement that is spread on the merits of whatever-it-is, not by some carefully calculated plan by people that are abusing an understanding of the human mind to get shitty products peddled to people that can't defend themselves from those tactics.
 

gold49

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Pretty much the same thing I think about advertising as it is currently done by companies. It needs to go away. Things need advertisement that is spread on the merits of whatever-it-is, not by some carefully calculated plan by people that are abusing an understanding of the human mind to get shitty products peddled to people that can't defend themselves from those tactics.

I still don't understand the point of ads past getting their name out there, although I have never really been a impulse buyer or one to trust a company of any size or type without doing atleast a google search on them. So, I agree ads should go away, however I do not think it will happen until groups using the ads for profit (most online things like youtube, hulu, web stuff in general, tv, etc.) find a better method of generating revenue without adding direct cost to the consumer (because if youtube suddenly became netflix style revenue I think everyone would be too pissed to let it happen), or the companies go "Oh, maybe the 20,000 ads didn't help sales much because people aren't as dumb as we thought."
 
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HeilMewTwo

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I still don't understand the point of ads past getting their name out there, although I have never really been a impulse buyer or one who to trust a company of any size or type without doing atleast a google search on them. So, I agree ads should go away, however I do not think it will happen until groups using the ads for profit (most online things like youtube, hulu, web stuff in general, tv, etc.) find a better method of generating revenue without adding direct cost to the consumer (because if youtube suddenly became netflix style revenue I think everyone would be too pissed to let it happen), or the companies go "Oh, maybe the 20,000 ads didn't help sales much because people aren't as dumb as we thought."
I think you'll find the average person is affected by ads quite easily, it lodges in their minds the next time they need a product.
 
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1M Industries

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I still don't understand the point of ads past getting their name out there, although I have never really been a impulse buyer or one who to trust a company of any size or type without doing atleast a google search on them. So, I agree ads should go away, however I do not think it will happen until groups using the ads for profit (most online things like youtube, hulu, web stuff in general, tv, etc.) find a better method of generating revenue without adding direct cost to the consumer (because if youtube suddenly became netflix style revenue I think everyone would be too pissed to let it happen), or the companies go "Oh, maybe the 20,000 ads didn't help sales much because people aren't as dumb as we thought."
Look at something called adblock plus. Goodbye ads!
 

gold49

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Look at something called adblock plus. Goodbye ads!

Already have it, but use it for security only around sites I don't fully trust (got one virus from a ad once, not happening again because it was a pain in the rear to beat) and have it set to auto disable on youtube and stuff, I don't mind seeing ads as long as they are not stupid long *cough* hulu *cough* since it means the site can continue to operate and the content creator gets paid. Also, as I said, ads have little to no affect on me, so they just waste a bit of time

I think you'll find the average person is affected by ads quite easily, it lodges in their minds the next time they need a product.

Sadly you are probably correct, just wish it wasn't true. Then again this is kinda a "first world problem" (hate using that term), so it is low priority for things I wish wouldn't be true
 

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I think you'll find the average person is affected by ads quite easily, it lodges in their minds the next time they need a product.
This. Remember those morons who buy 7 blenders at $40 off each and then claim they saved $480, then wonder why they have trouble paying the bills (and blame it on taxes for good measure)?
 
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gold49

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This. Remember those morons who buy 7 blenders at $40 off each and then claim they saved $480, then wonder why they have trouble paying the bills (and blame it on taxes for good measure)?

Don't know anyone quite like that, although I do know people who buy stuff that doesn't work correctly if at all and then refuse to replace it for like four years to "get their money's worth out of it."

And for taxes, there is one guy who complains about people working the system to live off the government and then talks about literal tax evasion methods to useo_O
 
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TomeWyrm

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I still don't understand the point of ads past getting their name out there, although I have never really been a impulse buyer or one to trust a company of any size or type without doing atleast a google search on them. So, I agree ads should go away, however I do not think it will happen until groups using the ads for profit (most online things like youtube, hulu, web stuff in general, tv, etc.) find a better method of generating revenue without adding direct cost to the consumer (because if youtube suddenly became netflix style revenue I think everyone would be too pissed to let it happen), or the companies go "Oh, maybe the 20,000 ads didn't help sales much because people aren't as dumb as we thought."
That is literally the point of advertisement. It's also rather the definition "a notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event."
The whole reason it exists as a concept is to let people know your whatever-it-is is a thing, and it's a thing that whomever is being advertised to can obtain.
Word-of-mouth advertising is a force of good. People tell other people about things they enjoyed and suggest that maybe those other people might like whatever-it-was too. That's good.

The problem from an advertiser (and even producer) perspective is that it's inefficient and slow... and you actually have to have a practically divinely good product. So people start putting out notices themselves. Instead of waiting for customers to tell other people or for people to walk by the sign out front your store? You go pay some people to tell their friends, or you slip the town crier a few extra rupees (mmm Zelda...) to mention your newfangled whirlygig. That's better... but still too slow. With the advent of newspapers? Stick it in there! But that's easy to ignore and miss. Radio/TV? Now those are methods for spreading ads! If a person wants the content you're producing they're going to have to either sit there and listen to "These messages from our sponsors" or expend a lot of effort trying (and likely failing quite often) to avoid them.

Then came the internet, and advertising had become a soft-science artform, and BIG business. And we get all the junk that I have like 5 layers of blocking for. I have a redirecting proxy at my router, my hosts file, adblock edge, and noscript. I turn these things down for sites I explicitly want to support, but I've been burned too many times by promises that "we're different" and "we're safe". I do not condone the flashing adverts, the background music, the wasting of my bandwidth and the increasing of my load time, the horrible volume level matching (Hulu!), or 99% of the tactics used by advertisers nowadays.

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Also wtf is with the botania subreddit? I swear like half the posts I'm reading have that "controversial" dagger-thingy that signifies something close to a balance of total up/down votes
Is it just growing pains? I don't know if I've ever actually been privy to the start of a new subreddit before, is that normal?

Edit: Apparently there was a downvote spree... no idea why. *sigh* reddit.
 
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TomeWyrm

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No, it's NOT free. TANSTAAFL. Someone is paying for it. In the case of ad-supported content, I'm paying for it. Just not with currency directly.

I happen to think the cost, personally, is too high. I'm very grateful to the people that don't block ads letting me enjoy the content without having to shell out directly from my pocketbook. I just won't be one of them. There are models that can support content that I am actually willing to lend real money to (assuming I can find a steady income stream in this dried up economy. Relying on odd jobs and charity is a crappy way to live). For instance, Patreon. I love Patreon. I hope to actually be able to support more of the artists, authors, video producers, and modders I enjoy using that service soon.

I wish there was an advertising model I trusted other than Google Adsense - which is explicitly whitelisted. I actually like the place that honest advertisement holds, it really does serve a purpose. If it wasn't for all the obnoxious and infected ads ruining it for ads in general I would greatly enjoy turning adblock off on more than 5 sites across the internet. Unfortunately we live in a world where advertisers think it's a good idea to stick megabytes of content into a page, greatly slowing its load time, ads are routinely used as attack vectors, and those ads are using horrifically dishonest tactics like flashing, animation, and those stupid plays-sound-in-the-background ads that when they occur I have to usually dig through WELL OVER A HUNDRED TABS to figure out where they're coming from, wasting my time and making me NEVER want to buy whatever product it was EVER AGAIN. I actually won't buy Mr Clean shit because of one of those ads about the "magic erasers". I wasted over an hour when you total up the time trying to find that damn infomercial, and the cleanup after as I had to re-open tabs, re-login to sites, and other tasks.

I feel the same way about ADFLY, I've installed a greasemonkey script specifically designed to let me bypass the site entirely because they couldn't police their content to keep out the fake download phishing attempts, and I still hear about the ads being used as attack vectors. Not to mention the stupid "click here to actually get the link you actually wanted in the first place" crap annoys me to no end. Sorry if you aren't getting ad revenue from me for it, but I would rather spend 15 minutes on Google to find a modpack to rip your mod from or literally any other method of obtaining your content than use that ****hole site. At least in my case, you're not losing anything.

Honestly if I talk any more about this I'm going to start a whole political rant on the subject; so I'm just going to drop it here because I feel VERY strongly about the rights of the user/consumer; which is kinda unpopular amongst the content producers in this community.
 
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