Nether changes... ridiculous!

[darkeshrine]

2. I suspect he means "outside of blaze spawners, similar to other nether mobs"

Blazes only spawn in nether fortresses, similar to Wither Skeletons.

 

[LoGaL]

btw, when i mine nether quartz, pigman don't get angry xD

 

[Loufmier]

Blazes only spawn in nether fortresses, similar to Wither Skeletons.

well, blazes spawn wherever blaze spawner is, which indeed can only be found in fortress.

 

[darkeshrine]

well, blazes spawn wherever blaze spawner is, which indeed can only be found in fortress.

Blaze spawners can be found only in Nether Fortresses, and will start spawning Blazes once the player gets within 16 blocks. The spawners have a chance of spawning 1-4 Blazes at once. Blazes can only spawn in light level 11 or lower (at the lower half of their body). Blazes can also spawn naturally elsewhere in Nether Fortresses.

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Blaze

 

[Celestialphoenix]

[Vanilla] blaze spawning only occurs in fortresses- literally inside the fortress tunnels only. (spawn area is a perfect map of the actual fort)
-camping a spawner with some fire-resist potions can net you a fair few rods.

Pre nether- thaumcraft desert flowers make blaze dust for some reason.

Nether ores were designed to be dangerous. Probably because they contain twice the normal ore- Risk Vs Reward ect...

if you personally mine an ore- all the pigmen will aggro.
if you're carrying an ore- theres a chance an individual will aggro.
they also can explode on impact; watch your step, and strip a seam fast if you're mining them.​

Pigmen? If you've gotten yourself killed 4 times you're doing it wrong. Change tactics and try again.
(knockback swords and jetpacks are useful, otherwise tower up so they cant get you- or soulsand to slow them down)

 

[Zarkov]

In Monster 1.0.9, the pigmen aggro when you mine nether quartz. As soon as I noticed that, I simply went back to my base and disconnected, edited the config and restarted the server. Problem solved!

I'm pretty sure I could move around underground or build walls as needed, but I could see that getting old really fast. Completely over-the-top hassle just to get some nether quartz (or any other plain ore / resource for that matter), IMHO.

 

[Odovbold]

I thought it was common knowledge to use silk touch or auto smelt hammer or pick to mine nether ores...
Or wand/focus of equal trade,
Or an Atom Disassembler in vein mode

 

[Loufmier]

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Blaze

compared to blaze spawners, natural spawn elsewhere in fortress is rather unnoticeable to say the least.

 

[AlanEsh]

I thought it was common knowledge to use silk touch or auto smelt hammer or pick to mine nether ores...
Or wand/focus of equal trade,
Or an Atom Disassembler in vein mode

I just turn on my MPS Mob Repulsor and mine away.

 

[Gerald Huppertz]

My first trips to the nether before I have MPS I dig 1x2 tunnel and branch mine it for quartz. It doesn't take long to come back with a stack of 64. Completed branches get sealed up with cobble. It rare that I see even a single pigman spawn inside a 1x2 tunnel. I also do not go before I have a silk touch pick to avoid the explosions.

 

[YX33A]

Another helpful hint for avoiding Pigman Aggro - although not as early-game as some of the other suggestions:

1. Start Thaumcraft 4.
2. Craft a nice wand, and charge it up off of some nodes.
3. Craft the Wand Focus of Equal Trade.
4. Shift-rightclick on cobble and bring a few stacks with you.

5. Profit. You can now "Mine" the Nether Ores with Equal Trade, and the Equal Trade effect bypasses both the Pigman trigger and the explosive trigger.

That being said, it's only a few nether quartz, and that's obtainable on the overworld due to dungeons.

 

[PhilHibbs]

It doesn't make any sense.

1. Open a doorway to Hell.
2. Tiptoe between the zombies.
3. Avoid the firebats.
4. Pillar up to gather the glowing crystals on the roof.
5. Shoot down the giant crybaby heads and gather their tears.
6. Find a fortress and kill flying fire demons.
7. Dig up the rich seams of minerals that lace the fiery rocks of hell.
8. Get attacked by the denizens of hell for plundering their resources.

Of all this, number 8 is the one that "doesn't make any sense"?

 

[ThatOneSlowking]

Oh, you think that is bad?
Agrarian skies nether
*shivers*

 

[Succubism]

I never use nether ores but like the general idea behind it. Seeing as some of the rarer ores are much more plentiful than in the overworld.

 

[SatanicSanta]

Another helpful hint for avoiding Pigman Aggro - although not as early-game as some of the other suggestions:

1. Start Thaumcraft 4.
2. Craft a nice wand, and charge it up off of some nodes.
3. Craft the Wand Focus of Equal Trade.
4. Shift-rightclick on cobble and bring a few stacks with you.

5. Profit. You can now "Mine" the Nether Ores with Equal Trade, and the Equal Trade effect bypasses both the Pigman trigger and the explosive trigger.

pffft cobble
just use saplings, as they are transparent (which means you get the stuff behind where the cobble would've blocked), and you get them back immediately, unless there is a valid block, or it bugs out (usually does)

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

silk touch also avoids angering the pigmen

 

[Odovbold]

pffft cobble
just use saplings, as they are transparent (which means you get the stuff behind where the cobble would've blocked), and you get them back immediately, unless there is a valid block, or it bugs out (usually does)

Wow using saplings as equal trade replacement blocks, that's brilliant (saving me stacks of glasses)

 

[PierceSG]

This is why I'm glad I'm playing my own custom compilation and having DartCraft around.
Place down a time torch on stop mode. And it's hammer time.

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[immibis]

The reason it's ridiculous is that many other things are designed around the fact that nether quartz is easy to obtain.

It's completely fine for the other nether ores of course... those ones that nothing else relies on.

 

[Golrith]

Indeed. I turn off Pigmen Aggro on Nether Quartz. That's just too Evil, especially when you throw in other mods that also affect the Nether.
Luckily the latest Nether Ore version has a whole heap of config options now (those config things that most people ignore...)

I feel that Nether Quartz is just this junk material to Zombie Pigmen, they don't care about these strange creatures that are appearing and taking it all. Other ores, are a big no no, and make them rage.