More on Microsoft's MC plans

[Hambeau]

I saw this article this morning and decided to share:

http://fortune.com/2015/09/04/microsoft-not-making-minecraft-2-0/

[Edit] Sorry for the mini-necro here... I just saw that apparently IOS and Android versions of "MC++" have been updated today. This means Win10 MC beta, IOS, Android and Windows phone MCPE can play with Win10 and xbox players.

http://news.xbox.com/2015/09/games-minecraft-pocket-edition-and-win10-edition-update

There are a few discrepancies in the various articles... I had read that when it was released a pc player could play a lan game with up to 7 others on pc or xbox, but that now appears to have ben limited to 5. One article (not quoted) reported that xbox compatibility was not yet ready and questionable(?).

Things are happening... The player base is expanding, folks!

 

[Renato Lopes]

I hope they optimize the game better than mojang did. Also, dual welding, I don't like that for vanilla.

 

[Type1Ninja]

I hope they optimize the game better than mojang did. Also, dual welding, I don't like that for vanilla.

A) It runs on C++ (that's why they're calling it "MC++" ), so it'll run a bit faster to begin with. Plus, yeah, they'll optimize it better. Personally, I hope they also put some optimization pressure on Mojang for Javacraft (only I call it that, but whatever) as well.
B) They're probably going to put dual wielding in the other editions at some point, I think. Non-java versions have effectively been just behind Javacraft since they were first created; I don't think that that will change now (although it might).

 

[Renato Lopes]

wait they're making a MC++ (as you call it?) LOL!

But that also means less modding for it, since a lot of people jst learned java because of minecraft.

And the java guys themselves will be pissed lololo

 

[Hambeau]

From the look of things I'd say features are going into "MC++" faster than into "Javacraft", to use your terms. For example, the new "Packed Dirt" path is already in MC++, and while it currently is included in Javacraft 1.9, 1.9 is still just a snapshot.

I think we'll see a concentrated effort to get all the supported platforms onto the same build of MC++, coincidentally creating a multiplatform capable environment, before we start seeing the convergence of MC++ and Javacraft. This may start after 1.9 is released or even after "1.10" comes out.

 

[Hambeau]

wait they're making a MC++ (as you call it?) LOL!

But that also means less modding for it, since a lot of people jst learned java because of minecraft.

And the java guys themselves will be pissed lololo

MC++ has already existed for a couple of years... It is still called MC Pocket Edition on all the tablets and phones, and is the same code base running on all the gaming consoles. It has always been written in C++ and in fact the C++ version of the code has resulted in improvements to the Java code base, simplifying block rendering among other improvements.

 

[Renato Lopes]

so thats why the graphics are different....

still I don't see why mc++ don't have shaders....

 

[Hambeau]

so thats why the graphics are different....

still I don't see why mc++ don't have shaders....

The most probable reason for that is the limitations placed by hardware...While consoles are somewhat close to pcs in terms of CPU/GPU capabilities and RAM/mass storage capacity and tablets are slowly getting there, I doubt you'll see many phones with enough ram and/or storage for shaders any time soon and they want to keep the standard feature set common to all devices for cross-compatibility.

Having said that, it's probably good that most shaders are client sided.

 

[Renato Lopes]

The most probable reason for that is the limitations placed by hardware...While consoles are somewhat close to pcs in terms of CPU/GPU capabilities and RAM/mass storage capacity and tablets are slowly getting there, I doubt you'll see many phones with enough ram and/or storage for shaders any time soon and they want to keep the standard feature set common to all devices for cross-compatibility.

Having said that, it's probably good that most shaders are client sided.

xDDDDD I'm not that kind of guy hoping to play witcher 3 on a smartphone
still... (Yes, I mean
iBuyPower]

 

[OreCruncher]

MSFT is following the most basic rule: Thou shalt not screw with the revenue stream. I am sure if/when Mojang stumbles they will step in.

 

[sgbros1]

wait they're making a MC++ (as you call it?) LOL!

But that also means less modding for it, since a lot of people jst learned java because of minecraft.

And the java guys themselves will be pissed lololo

You know, many people still learn Java from school, which is not going away anytime soon (although we all wished it would)...

And it's not like they're making any money from it. Java is a programming language, not an OS.

 

[Type1Ninja]

You know, many people still learn Java from school, which is not going away anytime soon (although we all wished it would)...

And it's not like they're making any money from it. Java is a programming language, not an OS.

They don't make money from java, but they do make money when people play MC, want to make a mod, learn Java, progress beyond modding, get hired by MSFT, and do work for them.

 

[Renato Lopes]

Yeah, too bad consoles can't hold a chunck.

 

[Renato Lopes]

And yeah, minecraft is probably one of the only things that keep Java Alive & Kicking

Spoiler

yeah, I did a reference to a non-minecraft mod. So what? I really like portal and portal 2...

 

[OreCruncher]

And yeah, minecraft is probably one of the only things that keep Java Alive & Kicking

That and the multitude of electronics that are around us.

 

[Type1Ninja]

That and the multitude of electronics that are around us.

*cough* android *cough*

 

[Renato Lopes]

damn, I forgot about that.... gotta buy a new car....
but

 

[ljfa]

I love how it says "We just released a Windows 10 Edition beta, which marks the first time you can play across different platforms" - of course Java can't be used across different platforms

 

[Renato Lopes]

 

[Renato Lopes]

at microsoft headquarters

Yes, install the windows 10 minecraft edition. We promise a lot, but we need to know a lot, can we? From our perspective this don't sound too bad

Lol uh sound like illuminati

Do I? Muahmuamhuamhuaha